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CONTINUAL REPETITION OF LIES = the truth [W:85]

where was your evidence that it was a fact? Last time I checked it said Commander and Chief when Obama is mentioned.

Ask Osama Bin Laden if anyone has been in charge after Bush left, ooh wait, he can't. Must mean someone was in charge, and I am pretty sure his name was and is Barack Obama.



Puh-lease!
 
Another nice example of opinion used as fact.

There has been growth, business is growing and with all the actions Obama has taken to shore up businesses you might find he is anti-business but I do not agree with that opinion.

Obama has slowed the bleeding and has put the country back on a blood transfusion but with little blood to put back into the country due to the fact that all other countries in the world have virtually bled out there is a lack of enough blood to bring the patient back to life in with great speed.

If someone thinks deep economic downturns like the one of 2008 are solved in 3 year, I have a nice plot of building land smack down in the middle of the Louisiana Bayou that I am willing to sell to them.



Continuous failure does give the impression that it will continue. You have obviously accepted that the incompetent who is currently in charge is doing the best of all possible jobs and none could possibly do any better.

Suing Boeing for creating jobs doesn't seem like a good way to make progress. Shutting down Gibson Guitars seems a little backward. Opposing any business that is non union seems a little backward. Opposing any business that relies on hydrocarbons seems a little backward. Supporting any kook with a solar in his company's name seems a little unproductive.

Threatening to raise the tax on anyone who shows a profit and constantly threatening to change the tax code to a punitive one seems a little counter productive.

The entire business community stopped investing at the same moment and did not start again. Why do you suppose this happened? Why is there 3 trillion dollars of capital on the side lines just molding in the banks? It's because the business community is terrified and because the administration is saying they are putting their boot on their neck and wants to kill the first three so the rest will fall in line.

This is real world terror and confusion being manufactured by the Big 0 and his henchmen and it will not end if he's re-elected, it will get worse.
 
A couple of things really...

Unemployment though still high is down 2% points from its high of just over 10% during the first year of Obama's presidency.

A renewed emphasis has been placed on education in this country. Have you have watched the segment "Jay Walking" on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno? How about the comic skit of Jimmy Fallen when people crowd into a photo booth to take pictures only to be mocked? These people - some college aged students others adults - not so bright are they? Then took at a young child with an iPhone in their hands or learning from their laptops? And what about changes in our education system through initiatives fostered by Race to the Top? What about the efforts to promote teachers who teach and fire those who don't? Where tenure is no longer that single most catalyst for advancement?

What about infrastructure improvements? I'm sure you've read reports of gas pipe explosions that have occured in various cities across the country. Add the fall-out from natural disasters, i.e., forest fires, hurricans, floods, tornados, earthquakes - this country has had more than its share of troubles. And yet, it has been Republicans who have insisted on "off-setting funds to pay for disaster relief recovery".

Under Conservatism, the private sector is suppose to help provide for the needed, as well as help repair the nation. But instead they're trying to find ways to increase profits for themselves which includes writing the laws the help their causes, not "the will of the People". Congress is corrupt! If you doubt me, ask yourself how can our elected officials in Washington claim to uphold the Constitution and do the will of the People on one hand while also allowing lobbyist to take more and more control from the People? Whose voice do you really hear in SuperPAC ads? The candidates who "endorse this message" or the politicians who don't? Who contributes all that money to political campaigns?

Only those who are blind to the truth cannot see; Republicans are tearing this country apart! This is why members of their own party - some still in Congress but others who have left - have been saying since the GOP presidential debates that "the Republican Party cannot govern itself" right now. They've made this Pledge - NOT to the People but to business interests and since 2010 WHERE ARE THE JOBS? They've convinced the People that it's the President's job to "appropriate" funds by continuously saying, "the President and Democrats haven't passed a budget" since Obama's been in office. But it's not up to the President to pass a budget. It's his responsibility to submit one to Congress every year which he has done (though a few days late on at least one occasion), but he has submitted them. It's up to Congress to act on such budget proposals. Now, you can say that the Democratically held Senate hasn't passed any of the budgets submitted from the House, but you're likely to find their budgets didn't quite measure up to things the nation needs right now or they've been laced with "triggers" - a Keystone XL Pipeline the Administration isn't quite ready to sign off on just yet for example.

Only people who haven't been paying attention and would rather rely on half-truths rather than facts would be against the President.



The House has submitted a budget on time every year and the Senate has not even considered them. The President has not asked or demanded of implied that they should. This is a complete lack of leadership and it is a perfect decription of this failed leader's style.

Infrastructure improvements that are paid for by the government are paid for by tax revenue that has not been equal to the task because this President has abandoned any fiscal responsibility. This is a complete lack of leadership.

Profits are what provide the capital to invest in ways to improve the company's health and also fund the dividends and the ROI that fire up the value of stocks and the investments of the private citizen. The fact that business is now cowering, afraid of what the next attack of obama will be is evidence that if he understands the economy at all, he is bowing to special interests instead of the good of the country. This is a complete lack of leadership.


republicans are asking the we become responsible, stop robbing the next three generations to pay for our excesses of today and let business do what it does to get the economy moving and grow the jobs needed to employ the growing population. Obama refuses to accept the FACT that this is the only way that America has ever profited in the past. This is a complete lack of leadership.

This president has failed by any measure including his own standards that he set for himself as a candidate. It's time to change partners.
 
Hey, code, isn't the no clue comment code for you have no real rebuttal? :coffeepap



No. It's an observation of what I have taken from the post.
 
The House has submitted a budget on time every year and the Senate has not even considered them. The President has not asked or demanded of implied that they should. This is a complete lack of leadership and it is a perfect decription of this failed leader's style.

Infrastructure improvements that are paid for by the government are paid for by tax revenue that has not been equal to the task because this President has abandoned any fiscal responsibility. This is a complete lack of leadership.

Profits are what provide the capital to invest in ways to improve the company's health and also fund the dividends and the ROI that fire up the value of stocks and the investments of the private citizen. The fact that business is now cowering, afraid of what the next attack of obama will be is evidence that if he understands the economy at all, he is bowing to special interests instead of the good of the country. This is a complete lack of leadership.


republicans are asking the we become responsible, stop robbing the next three generations to pay for our excesses of today and let business do what it does to get the economy moving and grow the jobs needed to employ the growing population. Obama refuses to accept the FACT that this is the only way that America has ever profited in the past. This is a complete lack of leadership.

This president has failed by any measure including his own standards that he set for himself as a candidate. It's time to change partners.

Thus, a JOBS BILL that includes tax incentives to spur public-private partnerships IS the best way to go about creating jobs and turning the economy around. Now, which candidate has made such proposals? Here's a clude: IT HASN'T BEEN MITT ROMNEY! Because he's relying on Paul Ryan's plans to carry this country forward only even his own party has condemned his measures. In fact, he talks a great talk about supporting Bowles-Simpson but he walked away from those proposals himself.

From Bloomberg Businessweek: "Ryan Helped Derail Simpson-Bowles Plan Romney Now Sees as Model"

Representative Paul Ryan was a pivotal figure in killing the 2010 Bowles-Simpson agreement, which Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney now holds out as a model for putting America’s fiscal house in order.

The 18-member panel needed 14 votes to send a 10-year plan to trim the debt to Congress for a vote. As his party’s then- ranking member on the House Budget Committee, Ryan led a bloc of three House Republicans who denied the additional votes needed.

All three Senate Republicans on the panel backed the plan and one of them, former New Hampshire Senator Judd Gregg, said he believes the House Republicans who rejected it were beholden to an argument by anti-tax advocate Grover Norquist that the measure was tantamount to a tax increase.

Can't you see where this country is headed under a Romney/Ryan ticket? It's madness!!!

Furthermore, Ron Paul was right. We do need to stop printing money out of thin air, but we also need to start producing things here at home, too. We've spend the last 60 years rebuilding the rest of the world since WWII. Don't you think it's time we started taking care of ourselves? Doesn't mean we go down the road of isolationism - that won't help keep us save. We need the help of our allies to maintain peaceful barriers between us and "them". But if we isolate ourselves, we haven't done the country any favors.
 
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What was the point of the speech that said that the government built roads and that the businesses profited from those roads?

His point was - and he brought this to your attention by saying, THE POINT IS!!!!


President Obama said:
The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

In the next paragraph, he said...

President Obama said:
So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together.

and just before that he said things like...

"somebody along the line gave you some help."

"There was a great teacher somewhere in your life."

"Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive."

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges."



It's clear to see or hear what he was saying, unless a 'bumper sticker' slogan is more to your liking.
 
More of the background story on Bowles-Simpson, the story Republicans don't want you to know...

Simpson-Bowles Budget Plan (National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform)

Background

President Obama had established the commission by executive order after legislation to create a similar panel was defeated in the Senate by a group of Republicans who dropped their previous support for the bill. Mr. Obama told the commission members that “everything has to be on the table” as they consider options for reducing spending and increasing tax revenue. But it was clear that Democrats on the panel were loath to consider reductions in Social Security and most of the Republicans expressed distaste for tax increases.

In November, after the midterm elections, a draft plan was released by Mr. Bowles, the president of the University of North Carolina system and a former White House chief of staff under President Bill Clinton, and Mr. Simpson, a former Republican Senate leader from Wyoming.

It called for deep cuts in domestic and military spending starting in 2012. It would overhaul the tax code, eliminating or reducing the $1 trillion a year in popular tax breaks for individuals and corporations and using the revenues mostly to slash income tax rates but also to reduce deficits. And to make Social Security solvent for 75 years, it would raise payroll taxes for the affluent and reduce future benefits, including by slowly raising the retirement age for full benefits to 69 from 67 by 2075. They said the plan would reduce deficit spending by about $4 trillion over the coming decade.

So, once again members of Congress would rather raid the Social Security trust fund than tax the wealth alittle bit more to help pay for the benefits they've come to enjoy.
 
Thus, a JOBS BILL that includes tax incentives to spur public-private partnerships IS the best way to go about creating jobs and turning the economy around. Now, which candidate has made such proposals? Here's a clude: IT HASN'T BEEN MITT ROMNEY! Because he's relying on Paul Ryan's plans to carry this country forward only even his own party has condemned his measures. In fact, he talks a great talk about supporting Bowles-Simpson but he walked away from those proposals himself.

From Bloomberg Businessweek: "Ryan Helped Derail Simpson-Bowles Plan Romney Now Sees as Model"



Can't you see where this country is headed under a Romney/Ryan ticket? It's madness!!!

Furthermore, Ron Paul was right. We do need to stop printing money out of thin air, but we also need to start producing things here at home, too. We've spend the last 60 years rebuilding the rest of the world since WWII. Don't you think it's time we started taking care of ourselves? Doesn't mean we go down the road of isolationism - that won't help keep us save. We need the help of our allies to maintain peaceful barriers between us and "them". But if we isolate ourselves, we haven't done the country any favors.




I'm not sure what it is you're endorsing. The current administration has continuously stopped business from doing business whether it's overriding a court order to resume drilling in the Gulf or revoking licenses to drill off shore on both coasts..

Mitt has challenged the country to become energy independent ala Jack Kennedy, before the end of this decade.

If we do that one thing, the economy problems have been solved and that would be the single best job creation program in history. It also would not cost a penny of government tax funding.

Reagan, observing the tax policies Liberals said, "If it moves, tax it. If it continues to move, regulate it. if it stops moving, subsidize it." You'll excuse me if I'm more than a little suspicious of the bribe and tax pattern of government/business partnerships. Somehow, Amtrak doesn't strike me as the ideal model of a profitable partnership.
 
His point was - and he brought this to your attention by saying, THE POINT IS!!!!




In the next paragraph, he said...



and just before that he said things like...

"somebody along the line gave you some help."

"There was a great teacher somewhere in your life."

"Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive."

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges."



It's clear to see or hear what he was saying, unless a 'bumper sticker' slogan is more to your liking.



So, in your astute interpretation of this enlightened address, there was absolutely no implication that the tax on the rich should be increased?
 
More of the background story on Bowles-Simpson, the story Republicans don't want you to know...

Simpson-Bowles Budget Plan (National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform)



So, once again members of Congress would rather raid the Social Security trust fund than tax the wealth alittle bit more to help pay for the benefits they've come to enjoy.



What did President obama do to implement this? The Dream Act was not approved by Congress, but the President enacted this by Executive Order. Why did he ask for the commission then run from the recommendations?
 
What did President obama do to implement this? The Dream Act was not approved by Congress, but the President enacted this by Executive Order. Why did he ask for the commission then run from the recommendations?

I've already provided you with the answer to that question....to prevent the raiding of the Social Security Trust Fund which in turn would do significant damage to Medicare. If you'd bothered to read the background brief on Bowles-Simpson I provided, you wouldn't be asking such a foolish question.


The DREAM Act, though important, has nothing to do with why Bowles-Simpson wasn't picked up by the President. So, please let's not deflect from the issue at hand. Still, I will give you one clue as to why the DREAM Act is important for America: "patriation".
 
The Romney Campaign and Lies:
What Is The Calculation Behind Romney's Campaign Of Lies? | OurFuture.org

Interesting article. The romney campaign is attempting to win the election by spreading a series of lies.

According to the article, through the use of the right wing media machine and a continual repetition of the lies, people eventually begin to believe them as truths. The Romney campaign is making false statements again and again, and these lies are presented as statements to the naive voter again and again until he or she believes it to be true.

This technique of repeating lies over and over again, repeating them so much that they become truths has been taken directly out the the third reich's playbook. I don't want to compare Romney to Nazi Germany but these disingenuous methods of gaining voter support closely mimics methods used by the third reich. Making your way into power by the use of some repetitive false statements....

The lies are being placed one by one into the right wing machine by both Romney and Ryan. At the RNC, the false information they spewed to the public is very troubling. If this technique continues to be used more and more frequently, and the entire media machine is compromised, the results would permanently incapacitate the accuracy of the press.

If leaders generate a new statement which is indeed a lie, but it is repeated enough times a person will conclude that the statement must indeed be true because it's so frequently made. For if the statement was a lie, how could it be repeated over and over again and again?


This is just the beginning...


Yours is the typical broad brush Liberal sweeping generalizations that amounts to an Everest of CRAP when a comparison of the DETAILS of each inappropriate or dubious category of political behaviour is examined.

This technique has been used by Obama surrogates in more than one of the threads. And, I have challenged as many of those as I read with the following:


Regarding the comparison of distortions and outright lies must always take into consideration the factors involved as stated in my previous comment:

Granted there are some distortions, and obfuscations in every election by both sides in every election.

However the magnitude, the frequency, the divisiveness, the trumped up "class warfare" and the particular PROVEN LIES by the Obama surrogates and the preposterous Obama Agenda trumps anything else in Political Smears throughout American History.......except the political smears against that lovely indomitable courageous Gov Sarah Palin where Obamarrhoidal smears went so far as to lambast her children, and her Down syndrome child in particular. Even in the case of Paul Ryan's "marathon" crappola: compare this minutiae with the actual smear of Romney being a murderer of a cancer-ridden woman, etc ...

Plus, comparing economic errors one must also consider the respective frequency and magnitude and not simply sweep them away under the overall category that errors occur. To wit, consider the frequency and magnitude of Obamarrhoidal DISASTERS, again mentioned in my previous post:

Thus spending $5 Trillion in 31/2 years DOUBLE what Dubya spent in 8 ....... Having America with LESS jobs NOW than when Obama took office in 2008, having more than TWICE Americans on food stamps than when Obama took office, with ONE in SIX Americans living in Poverty, a condition unequalled in our History since the Great Depression ..... running a re-election campaign based on hatred of those who succeed and actually create jobs ......concentrating on nitpicking criticisms such as the "marathon" mispeaks instead of discussing, and/or at least taking responsibility for his failed Agenda .......all this indicates that justifying Obama's failed policies by repeating phoney BS by his surrogates is not only beneath contempt.....it is pathetic.

As to your transparent effort to gloss over Obama's UNCONSTITUTIONAL "Dream Act" Directive as being something DISCUSSED on a Bi-partisan level ???? It is one thing to consider some future legislation and iron out the particulars THEN PUT IT TO A VOTE.....and another to pass the "Dream Act" WITHOUT THE NECESSARY VOTE BY THE FULL CONGRESS on the final document with all the details ironed out

And, to paraphrase a fellow liberal, you may not give a flying f*** whether the DNC allows the association of blatant and flagrant proudly avowed America-Haters, i.e., ENEMIES OF AMERICA such as the Cop Killing, Al Queda & HAMAS supporter Siraj Wahhaj and his Islamofascistic Swine followers to be accepted under the DNC aegis for the opportunistic Muslim Vote grab, but any American worth the name of being an American decries that sort of abomination as being BEYOND OUTRAGEOUS !!!
Addendum:

In case I didn't make it clear in my post above:

Obama cannot possibly run on his OBVIOUS DISASTROUS 4 YEAR RECORD, hence he is attempting to get re-elected by OUTRAGEOUS BRIBERY AND CRONY "SOLYNDRA" TYPE PAYOLA: He has BRIBED THE BIG UNIONS and the various ENTITLEMENT-LADEN GROUPS, Obama has his RACIST NEGRO VOTE LOCKED UP .....NO MATTER HOW IDIOTIC HIS ECONOMIC POLICIES ARE.....HE HAS BRIBED THE LATINO VOTE BY HIS UNCONSTITUTIONAL "DREAM ACT" ......OBAMA HAS KISSED THE BUTT OF OUR ISLAMOFASCIST ENEMIES IN ORDER TO GRAB THE MUSLIM VOTE BY ARROGANTLY ALLOWING BLATANT & FLAGRANT AVOWED ENEMIES OF AMERICA SUCH AS THE COP KLLING, AL AQUEDA & HAMAS SUPPORTING IMAM SIRAJ WAHHAJ and his ISLAMOFASCIST SWINE CONGREGANT SUPPORTERS, WITH FBI INDICTED RECORDS, AS BEING PART OF THE DNC ACTIVITIES ......And, basically BUYING the votes of the young, single women, and college kids.

This is the adittional information on the Muslim Darling Imam Siraj WahhaJ the DNC embraced for its arrogantly transparent Muslim Vote Grab:

Democrats Embrace Siraj Wahhaj: Supporter of Cop-Killer, Al Qaeda and Hamas

Posted by Laura L. Rubenfeld Bio ↓ on Aug 29th, 2012 Comments ↓

In just a few days, the Democratic National Convention “kick off events” week will include its first ever “Jumah (Arabic for gathering) at the DNC” – three Islamic-centered events beginning with a Friday afternoon prayer and sermon, an evening Islamic banquet and an all-day Islamic festival.

Many of the individuals scheduled to speak during the DNC week have extremely spurious backgrounds, including, astonishingly, support for Al Qaeda and for the U.S. State Department-designated terrorist organization, Hamas.

The celebrity Imam or “Grand Imam” slated for the event is Imam Siraj Wahhaj.

As this article will demonstrate, Wahhaj has a thirty-year, well-documented history of supporting terror and preaching religious and racial intolerance against Americans. For decades, Wahhaj has preached violence and insurrection against the U.S. with the goal of replacing the Constitution with shari’ah law, as the law of the land.

Here is Wahhaj in his own words:

“Islam is better than democracy- Allah will cause his deen [Islam as a complete way of life], Islam to prevail over every kind of system, and you know what? It will happen.”

The following is a two-part profile on the man who will headline “Jumah at the Democratic National Convention.”

And howzabout this:

Siraj Wahhaj Expresses Pride to Be on a List of Alleged Terrorists

Imam Siraj Wahhaj was alleged to be associated with the terrorist cabal organizing the 1993 World Trade Center bomb plot. For that reason, his name was included on a list of the 172 unindicted co-conspirators in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Soon after, Wahhaj commented during one of his at-Taqwa sermons, “I’m not frightened by no list, by no government! I thank Allah. I’m honored that they thought enough of me to put me on a list.” [xxxvii]

Siraj Wahhaj’s Self-proclaimed Support for U.S.-based Al Qaeda Operatives

Rafik Abdus Sabir and Tarik Shah are two terror operatives, indicted in 2005 for plotting to open an Al Qaeda training camp in the U.S. Both Sabir and Shah had sworn allegiance to Osama Bin Laden. [xxxviii] Sabir, a Columbia University-educated medical doctor in Boca Raton, Florida, pledged that he would fly to Saudi Arabia to provide medical aid and train Al Qaeda terrorists. The other operative, Tarik Shah, was the son of a former Malcolm X aide[xxxix] and was also himself associated with the Nation of Islam. [xl] At a 2005 CAIR Banquet in Georgia, Siraj Wahhaj showed support for these two men.

Billmaher, compare the above behaviour of the DNC with that of RNC. Compare the MAGNITUDE & FREQUENCY of Political Misbehaviour of the DEMS and the REPS !!!
 
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Romney/Ryan will head this country in the right direction.

They realize we need to change our fiscal policies.

They realize we need to gut entitlement programs like Medicare and welfare.
 
Romney/Ryan will head this country in the right direction.

They realize we need to change our fiscal policies.

They realize we need to gut entitlement programs like Medicare and welfare.

 
I've already provided you with the answer to that question....to prevent the raiding of the Social Security Trust Fund which in turn would do significant damage to Medicare. If you'd bothered to read the background brief on Bowles-Simpson I provided, you wouldn't be asking such a foolish question.


The DREAM Act, though important, has nothing to do with why Bowles-Simpson wasn't picked up by the President. So, please let's not deflect from the issue at hand. Still, I will give you one clue as to why the DREAM Act is important for America: "patriation".




What did Obama do to implement Simpson Boles? If he tried and failed, he's a weak leader. If he he convened the commission and ignored the results, he's a stupid leader. If he created the commission to set up a false feeling that he was actually doing something when his intent was to do nothing, he's a deceitful and bad leader.

Any of these types of leaders are not the one i would like and they all seem to be pretty likely given the guy we're talking about.
 
I'm not sure what it is you're endorsing. The current administration has continuously stopped business from doing business whether it's overriding a court order to resume drilling in the Gulf or revoking licenses to drill off shore on both coasts..

Mitt has challenged the country to become energy independent ala Jack Kennedy, before the end of this decade.

If we do that one thing, the economy problems have been solved and that would be the single best job creation program in history
. It also would not cost a penny of government tax funding.

Reagan, observing the tax policies Liberals said, "If it moves, tax it. If it continues to move, regulate it. if it stops moving, subsidize it." You'll excuse me if I'm more than a little suspicious of the bribe and tax pattern of government/business partnerships. Somehow, Amtrak doesn't strike me as the ideal model of a profitable partnership.

You have got to be kidding me!? :shock: You mean to tell me that construction of the Hoover Dam and Mt. Rushmore where miniscuel achievements and not the engineering and architectual marvels most Americans know them to be? I have got to have some of what you're smokin' if you honestly think a transcontinental oil pipeline THAT WON'T BE CARRYING AMERICAN OIL somehow trumps the transcontinental railroad, the Hoover Dam or Mt. Rushmore!! Please do explain to us your rationale. This I've got to read....:popcorn2:

More to the point, Romney was attempting to channel his inner JFK (re: NASA and the space race.) Somehow, I doubt if anything Mitt Romney does would spin-off half the businesses the space program has. But nice try, Mitt!
 
You use the opinions of a progressive publication and try and pass it off as fact.... Give me a break.

and nothing compares to the lies from the affirmative action poster child claiming that the "rich don't pay their fair share" of income taxes
 
You have got to be kidding me!? :shock: You mean to tell me that construction of the Hoover Dam and Mt. Rushmore where miniscuel achievements and not the engineering and architectual marvels most Americans know them to be? I have got to have some of what you're smokin' if you honestly think a transcontinental oil pipeline THAT WON'T BE CARRYING AMERICAN OIL somehow trumps the transcontinental railroad, the Hoover Dam or Mt. Rushmore!! Please do explain to us your rationale. This I've got to read....:popcorn2:

More to the point, Romney was attempting to channel his inner JFK (re: NASA and the space race.) Somehow, I doubt if anything Mitt Romney does would spin-off half the businesses the space program has. But nice try, Mitt!

I wonder how many posters, other than the ideologically committed Obama surrogates, of course, will read Objective Voice's post and wonder if this ridiculous post that doesn't consider the central point of the KEYSTONE XL pipeline, i.e.,BRINGS OIL TO AMERICA, CREATES TENS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS PLUS BEGINS TO MAKE US MORE ENERGY INDEPENDENT FROM OUR ENEMIES .....but instead makes a transparent attempt to deflect the REALITY of what that KEYSTONE XL pipeline does, and the DISASTER that Obamarrhoidal restrictions on OIL & GAS DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COIUNTRY'S OWN ON & OFFSHORE DRILLING that is OCCURRING WHILE WE ARE POSTING ..... while making the idiotic claim about connecting the issue to the HOOVER DAMN ?!?!?, MT. RUSHMORE ?!?!? HOWZABOUT CONNECTING THE OBAMARRHOIDAL RESTRICTIONS ON OUR OWN GAS & OIL DEVELOPMENT BY PRAISING AMERICA'S CREATIVE BOOGIE WOOGIE MUSIC & what the hell, throw in our glorious HOT DOGS !!!....ALL AS PROOF THAT OBAMA'S CRONY-PAYOLLED "SOLYNDRICAL" ENERGY AGENDA IS A SUCCESS !!!
 
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I wonder how many posters, other than the ideologically committed Obama surrogates, of course, will read Objective Voice's post and wonder if this ridiculous post that doesn't consider the central point of the KEYSTONE XL pipeline, i.e.,BRINGS OIL TO AMERICA, CREATES TENS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS PLUS BEGINS TO MAKE US MORE ENERGY INDEPENDENT FROM OUR ENEMIES .....but instead makes a transparent attempt to deflect the REALITY of what that KEYSTONE XL pipeline does, and the DISASTER that Obamarrhoidal restrictions on OIL & GAS DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COIUNTRY'S OWN ON & OFFSHORE DRILLING that is OCCURRING WHILE WE ARE POSTING ..... while making the idiotic claim about connecting the issue to the HOOVER DAMN ?!?!?, MT. RUSHMORE ?!?!? HOWZABOUT CONNECTING THE OBAMARRHOIDAL RESTRICTIONS ON OUR OWN GAS & OIL DEVELOPMENT BY PRAISING AMERICA'S CREATIVE BOOGIE WOOGIE MUSIC & what the hell, throw in our glorious HOT DOGS !!!....ALL AS PROOF THAT OBAMA'S CRONY-PAYOLLED "SOLYNDRICAL" ENERGY AGENDA IS A SUCCESS !!!

For your information, I was responding to code1211's claim, towit:

code1211 said:
Mitt has challenged the country to become energy independent ala Jack Kennedy, before the end of this decade.

If we do that one thing, the economy problems have been solved and that would be the single best job creation program in history.

The Keystone XL pipeline may create jobs, but I seriously doubt it will be "the single best job creation program in history". The two progressive era programs I previously mentioned - Hoover Dam and Mt. Rushmore - were far more effective job creators. Furthermore, NASA is still providing employment opportunites and it was created during the Kennedy era.

Try again...
 
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For your information, I was responding to code1211's claim, towit:



The Keystone XL pipeline may create jobs, but I seriously doubt it will be "the single best job creation program in history". The two progressive era programs I previously mentioned - Hoover Dam and Mt. Rushmore - were far more effective job creators. Furthermore, NASA is still providing employment opportunites and it was created during the Kennedy era.

Try again...

Never said that the Keystone XL pipeline is : "the single best job creation program in history". And neither did Romney. You deliberately attributed Romney of stating, or implying this, when Romney was NOT referring to the Keystone XL pipeline but OBVIOUSLY applauding JFK's perceptive conclusion on an Energy Program in developing OUR OWN GAS, OIL & OTHER ENERGY SOURCES INSTEAD OF THE RELIANCE ON OTHER COUNTRIES.

However, the KEYSTONE XL pipeline is a most definitive example of the Obamarrhoidal idiotic psychosis in negating a positive energy move that would've created tens of thousands of jobs. Plus, augmenting our oil supplies with respect to reducing our dependence on our enemies' oil.

The ridiculous Obama Agenda of restricting, and, in effect almost negating our own on and off shore drilling, and the development of clean coal energy in order to raise the price of oil to unbelievable costs so as to make the failed GREEN ENERGY economically feasible is idiotic beyond belief. Obama's Energy Czar really made an idiot out of himself airing this preposterous notion.....and yet Obama is continuing this madness......and will probably continue doing this if re-elected.

But, to somehow weasel in America's Hoover Dam and Mt. Rushmore accomplishments to somehow justify or exonerate the Obamarrhoidal Idiotic Green Energy Fiasco, however tenuously, is BIZARRE...... no matter how you slice it.
 
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Never said that the Keystone XL pipeline is : "the single best job creation program in history". And neither did Romney. You deliberately attributed Romney of stating, or implying this, when Romney was NOT referring to the Keystone XL pipeline but OBVIOUSLY applauding JFK's perceptive conclusion on an Energy Program in developing OUR OWN GAS, OIL & OTHER ENERGY SOURCES INSTEAD OF THE RELIANCE ON OTHER COUNTRIES.

However, the KEYSTONE XL pipeline is a most definitive example of the Obamarrhoidal idiotic psychosis in negating a positive energy move that would've created tens of thousands of jobs. Plus, augmenting our oil supplies with respect to reducing our dependence on our enemies' oil.

The ridiculous Obama Agenda of restricting, and, in effect almost negating our own on and off shore drilling, and the development of clean coal energy in order to raise the price of oil to unbelievable costs so as to make the failed GREEN ENERGY economically feasible is idiotic beyond belief. Obama's Energy Czar really made an idiot out of himself airing this preposterous notion.....and yet Obama is continuing this madness......and will probably continue doing this if re-elected.

But, to somehow weasel in America's Hoover Dam and Mt. Rushmore accomplishments to somehow justify or exonerate the Obamarrhoidal Idiotic Green Energy Fiasco, however tenuously, is BIZARRE...... no matter how you slice it.

Reading comprehension, fella. I wasn't pointing the finger at you. My response was to code1211. Regardless, you're just as misguided as he is. For President Obama has been calling for an energy policy to make us more energy independent since he came into office, but all you guys seem to ever hear is "get rid of the EPA" and how this agency is hurting jobs and costing them money. I won't dare to debate the merits of a manufactering or chemical plant following environmental guidelines. But to suggest that President Obama hasn't call for energy solutions that can make us less dependent on foreign oil including drilling at home, as well as construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, says you've either been ignoring what the President's been saying all this time or you simply haven't been paying attention.
 
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The Romney Campaign and Lies:
What Is The Calculation Behind Romney's Campaign Of Lies? | OurFuture.org

Interesting article. The romney campaign is attempting to win the election by spreading a series of lies.

According to the article, through the use of the right wing media machine and a continual repetition of the lies, people eventually begin to believe them as truths. The Romney campaign is making false statements again and again, and these lies are presented as statements to the naive voter again and again until he or she believes it to be true.

This technique of repeating lies over and over again, repeating them so much that they become truths has been taken directly out the the third reich's playbook. I don't want to compare Romney to Nazi Germany but these disingenuous methods of gaining voter support closely mimics methods used by the third reich. Making your way into power by the use of some repetitive false statements....

The lies are being placed one by one into the right wing machine by both Romney and Ryan. At the RNC, the false information they spewed to the public is very troubling. If this technique continues to be used more and more frequently, and the entire media machine is compromised, the results would permanently incapacitate the accuracy of the press.

If leaders generate a new statement which is indeed a lie, but it is repeated enough times a person will conclude that the statement must indeed be true because it's so frequently made. For if the statement was a lie, how could it be repeated over and over again and again?


This is just the beginning...

Grim17 hit the nail on the head.

I find this whole election season both sad...and amusing.

It's sad because both sides are using spin, smears, etc to attempt to win. I see this happening because the Democrats refuse to talk about the facts of Obama's record. Their use of a spin campaign has been proven to be effective in the past. The Romney camp has little choice but to respond in a similar manner. Let's face it...our "Entertainment Hollywood" generation responds to this type of campaigning.

It's amusing because we now have the Democrats whining and crying because they are being beaten by their own game.




Oh that is ridiculous many in the press,Internet, media and government are saying Romney Ryan are blatantly lying! Fox even ran a piece on the lies Ryan told in his convention speech, Bill Kristol, former Bush advisor Mathew Dodd, David Gregory, etc etc all have said the Romney campaign is lying constant. It is unprecedented the amount of misinformation and blatant lies they are telling. To say the democrats do it to is just dishonest show me where there has been a media blitz like this one saying dems lied, you can't.. I have confidence the American people will reject Romney and Ryan because Americans want ethical honest people running he country.
 
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