2012 Democratic National Convention, Sept 3-6, Dicussion Thread

[Conservative]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

Exodus 20:16. Would you rather not see that graph or something?

Is that what you are learning in school, that it is the government's role to take care of your personal responsibility issues. Where do states,local communities, and charities fit into your world? Obamanomics has been so successful as the results show so why is it that results don't matter to you?

 

[j-mac]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

Exodus 20:16.

Don't you quote the Bible to me pal! You don't have the chops for it....The idea that liberals that started out this election season saying that they had to "Kill Romney" and a Campaign Spokeswoman in Stephanie Cutter that accuses Romney of being a Felon, and you want to speak of "false witness"? You don't know the meaning of the term....

Would you rather not see that graph or something?

Oh, I'd love to, if for nothing else than to see which arm of Soros it came from.

 

[j-mac]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

Is that what you are learning in school, that it is the government's role to take care of your personal responsibility issues. Where do states,local communities, and charities fit into your world? Obamanomics has been so successful as the results show so why is it that results don't matter to you?

In a progressive perfect world, local government would be largely done away with, in favor of slavery to the Leviathan....

 

[Phys251]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

Don't you quote the Bible to me pal! You don't have the chops for it....The idea that liberals that started out this election season saying that they had to "Kill Romney" and a Campaign Spokeswoman in Stephanie Cutter that accuses Romney of being a Felon, and you want to speak of "false witness"? You don't know the meaning of the term....

This seriously made me LOL. :lol: Now I should remind you of Matthew 7:1-5.

Oh, I'd love to, if for nothing else than to see which arm of Soros it came from.

Thank you for admitting that it is the liberals who have the facts.

 

[Conservative]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

In a progressive perfect world, local government would be largely done away with, in favor of slavery to the Leviathan....

Makes you wonder why so many think this way and have so much faith in the Federal Govt. that has created a 16 trillion dollar debt and somehow can solve a social problem that they have never done before? Personal responsibility is something lost in today's liberal world

 

[Phys251]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

Is that what you are learning in school, that it is the government's role to take care of your personal responsibility issues. Where do states,local communities, and charities fit into your world? Obamanomics has been so successful as the results show so why is it that results don't matter to you?

Already answered this post via the post you quoted.

 

[j-mac]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

This seriously made me LOL. :lol: Now I should remind you of Matthew 7:1-5.

Who judged you, I am judging your words...So far they are lacking...

Thank you for admitting that it is the liberals who have the facts.

Nice misrepresentation...Maybe it is you whom should go back and read Exodus....:coffeepap:

 

[Phys251]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

Makes you wonder why so many think this way and have so much faith in the Federal Govt. that has created a 16 trillion dollar debt and somehow can solve a social problem that they have never done before? Personal responsibility is something lost in today's liberal world

LOL, and conservatives think they have shown responsibility? Let's see, that's why they have taken responsibility for two wars of dubious merit, skyrocketing the deficit, widening the gap between the megarich and the rest of people, making it easier to trash the environment, rewriting our science textbooks, looking the other way when corporations engage in shady practices, and all sorts of other things that Supply-Side Jesus said to do.

For all the accusing that we somehow lack responsibility, you (plural) have put on a pathetic showing of how it should be done. Get the plank out of your eye so you can see the speck in ours.

 

[Phys251]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

Who judged you, I am judging your words...So far they are lacking...



Nice misrepresentation...Maybe it is you whom should go back and read Exodus....:coffeepap:

Feel free to offer up anything of substance beyond this petty arguing and denial.

 

[j-mac]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

Makes you wonder why so many think this way and have so much faith in the Federal Govt. that has created a 16 trillion dollar debt and somehow can solve a social problem that they have never done before? Personal responsibility is something lost in today's liberal world

I think it is because the numbers are so insane that people can't really get their heads around the problem...Most people for better or worse don't even start paying attention til this point in the election. Even fewer will stray from a straight party line vote in their ballot because life is hectic.

 

[Conservative]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

LOL, and conservatives think they have shown responsibility? Let's see, that's why they have taken responsibility for two wars of dubious merit, skyrocketing the deficit, widening the gap between the megarich and the rest of people, making it easier to trash the environment, rewriting our science textbooks, looking the other way when corporations engage in shady practices, and all sorts of other things that Supply-Side Jesus said to do.

For all the accusing that we somehow lack responsibility, you (plural) have put on a pathetic showing of how it should be done. Get the plank out of your eye so you can see the speck in ours.

I find it quite interesting how economically, civics, and history challenged people like you are in addition to being so partisan and void of actual facts. I don't know how old you are but 11 years ago this country was attacked so one of those two wars wasn't asked for but was authorized by the Democrat controlled Senate and GOP House, the Iraq War was also authorized in October 2002 by a Democrat controlled Senate by a 76-23 vote, again something you don't seem to understand.

Skyrocketing deficits? Yes, 9/11 cost the Treasury over a trillion dollars according to the GAO and part of the 2009 deficit was TARP which was a loan that was paid back but never credited to Bush. Both the wars and the deficits are issues that history and economics say you are wrong but that doesn't stop you from your partisan tirade

I have posted the Bush and the Obama results which you obviously want to ignore. Don't blame you as Obamanomics is something you firmly believe in but obviously don't pay any attention to the results. What is it about people like you who are so ignorant of the facts yet act like experts on just about every topic. I assure you that some day you will grow out of this ignorance, I did.

 

[Conservative]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

I think it is because the numbers are so insane that people can't really get their heads around the problem...Most people for better or worse don't even start paying attention til this point in the election. Even fewer will stray from a straight party line vote in their ballot because life is hectic.

I haven't found many Obama supporters able to intelligently discuss the Obama results since they don't understand those results nor do they want to. The numbers are so big that you are right, they cannot get their hands around them. 5.4 trillion dollars doesn't resonate nor does the well over 250 billion in debt service that could be used to help people if that is truly the liberals goal. Instead much of that debt service is helping foreign debt holders.

 

[Diogenes]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

Would you rather not see that graph or something?

I'd be interested in seeing that graph extended backward for the previous eight years.

 

[Conservative]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

I'd be interested in seeing that graph extended backward for the previous eight years.

You do realize that Bush's term was only 2008 and during that year he didn't have a Congress to deal with and thus ran the govt. all by himself? I find it amazing how Bush was able to do what he did and the smartest guy ever to hold the office, Obama, with a Democrat Congress for his first two years and a Democrat Senate his entire first term wasn't able to generate better results than we have today. Just goes to show that Obama isn't as smart as his supporters contend nor are his supporters nearly as smart as they think.

 

[j-mac]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

You do realize that Bush's term was only 2008 and during that year he didn't have a Congress to deal with and thus ran the govt. all by himself? I find it amazing how Bush was able to do what he did and the smartest guy ever to hold the office, Obama, with a Democrat Congress for his first two years and a Democrat Senate his entire first term wasn't able to generate better results than we have today. Just goes to show that Obama isn't as smart as his supporters contend nor are his supporters nearly as smart as they think.

Oh, I think he was plenty smart enough, the proof of which we will see next year when a Romney administration has to go about the task of undoing what Obama has tried to force upon us.

 

[Conservative]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

Oh, I think he was plenty smart enough, the proof of which we will see next year when a Romney administration has to go about the task of undoing what Obama has tried to force upon us.

I expect most of those who claim to be undecided will be actually voting for Romney as history has shown with regards to undecideds voting for the challenger. No doubt Romney will have the obama mess to clean up

 

[Diogenes]

Re: Bill Clinton rips the GOP and sounded great doing it.

You do realize that Bush's term was only 2008 and during that year he didn't have a Congress to deal with and thus ran the govt. all by himself? I find it amazing how Bush was able to do what he did and the smartest guy ever to hold the office, Obama, with a Democrat Congress for his first two years and a Democrat Senate his entire first term wasn't able to generate better results than we have today. Just goes to show that Obama isn't as smart as his supporters contend nor are his supporters nearly as smart as they think.

Agreed, which is why I think the graph might tell a different story if it actually compared the Bush years pre-Pelosi with the Obama years.