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"Republican Women for Obama"[W:43]

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I've always wondered at this tack. The people who came out every election who had always been a loyal member of the opposition until this horrible guy always seemed... oddly convenient and unlikely volunteers to star in the oppositions' campaign. It seems now we are far enough in the information age where those trying it will get busted. :mrgreen:


The Democrats have just released an ad called “Republican Women for Obama”, in which a handful of women explain that they’ve voted Republican their entire lives until this Mitt Romney fellow came along and they decided he was just way too extreme. Also, they’re shocked to discover, after voting Republican non-stop for the last 40 years, that apparently the GOP is opposed to abortion. Who knew?


Prominently featured among these lifelong Republican women is a striking brunette who is aghast to find out that Romney wants to reverse Roe v Wade. This totally Republicanly Republican GOP-type conservative-to-the-hilt woman has since been identified as Maria Ciano of Colorado. She’s a registered Democrat, but don’t let that fool you. Her accumulated Facebook “likes” over the years testify to her rock-ribbed Republicanism. They include Amy Goodman, MoveOn.org, Bernie Sanders, and a Facebook page called “I Love It When I Wake Up In the Morning and Obama Is President”...
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Re: "Republican Women for Obama"

cpwill said:
I've always wondered at this tack. It seems now we are far enough in the information age where those trying it will get busted. :mrgreen:





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Wait....advertisements use actors? WHO KNEW!

I swear National Review has the stupidest **** this side of Beltway Confidential. Oh wait, you read that one too....
 
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Redress said:
Wait....advertisements use actors campaigns lie? WHO KNEW!

I swear National Review has the stupidest **** this side of Beltway Confidential. Oh wait, you read that one too....
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:) fixed that one for you.


hint: these women are not "actresses", they are "activists". there being a difference between the two ;)
 
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cpwill said:
:) fixed that one for you.


hint: these women are not "actresses", they are "activists". there being a difference between the two ;)
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What big scandal are you going to uncover tomorrow? I know: OH MY GOD, Obama told his daughters santa was real...in the White House even! IMPEACH HIM!
 
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Redress said:
What big scandal are you going to uncover tomorrow?
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:shrug: it's not a big scandal. It's just a campaign depending upon a falsehood to try to score political points, and it's funny because they were incompetent enough to get caught at it.

:) But I like how your defense so far is an ad hominem and a strawman. Demonstrates the actual in-defensibility of the ad itself. :)
 
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cpwill said:
:shrug: it's not a big scandal. It's just a campaign depending upon a falsehood to try to score political points, and it's funny because they were incompetent enough to get caught at it.

:) But I like how your defense so far is an ad hominem and a strawman. Demonstrates the actual in-defensibility of the ad itself. :)
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Well CPwill...I can name 3 women in my immediate family that ALWAYS voted republican that arent voting for this mitt romny guy and I know personally several more VFW women members and wives that arent...

I just read quinni poll that said 68% of floridians WILL NOT VOTE for the privatization of medicare or vouchers and only 21% were for it...how many of those do you think USED to be lifelong republicans...because the republicans outnumber democrats in fla
 
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Two can play at this game. We can find women who are Democrats who are now planning to vote for Akin. That will make a nice political television ad.
 
Re: "Republican Women for Obama"

cpwill said:
:shrug: it's not a big scandal. It's just a campaign depending upon a falsehood to try to score political points, and it's funny because they were incompetent enough to get caught at it.

:) But I like how your defense so far is an ad hominem and a strawman. Demonstrates the actual in-defensibility of the ad itself. :)
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No, my defense is that advertising has always used actors. Most of us knew that. Finding it funny that you didn't is not an ad hom.
 
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Redress said:
No, my defense is that advertising has always used actors. Most of us knew that. Finding it funny that you didn't is not an ad hom.
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Joe Soptic isn't an actor. What makes you so sure these women are?
 
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johnny_rebson said:
Two can play at this game. We can find women who are Democrats who are now planning to vote for Akin. That will make a nice political television ad.
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Well good for you...go find them lol
 
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This is truly the silly season...theres enough attack ads based on nothing going around for both sides...from the superpacs and outside support groups...you should all live in florida and watch some of these absurd ads from BOTH sides and get the endless political robo calls that are chock full of lies...lets get real ok...neither side has a right to get all indignant over attack ads and their content. I do admit its fun though to post them to get some teaparty type conservatives panties bunched :mrgreen:
 
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Redress said:
No, my defense is that advertising has always used actors
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Indeed they do. And when advertisers use actors, they are required to say so in print on the screen.

However, this isn't advertising for a product - it's part of a political campaign. And these aren't actresses, they are activists. There is no tiny print at the bottom at any point saying "these people are actually democrat party members and thus not who they are claiming to be". The ad entails a bunch of women lying about who they are in order to try to paint a false picture of the race.

What is funny is the extent you are willing to go to to defend this crap. Had Republicans gotten caught pulling a stunt like this you would have been (rightly) excoriating them for it.
 
Re: "Republican Women for Obama"

cpwill said:
Indeed they do. And when advertisers use actors, they are required to say so in print on the screen.

However, this isn't advertising for a product - it's part of a political campaign. And these aren't actresses, they are activists. There is no tiny print at the bottom at any point saying "these people are actually democrat party members and thus not who they are claiming to be". The ad entails a bunch of women lying about who they are in order to try to paint a false picture of the race.

What is funny is the extent you are willing to go to to defend this crap. Had Republicans gotten caught pulling a stunt like this you would have been (rightly) excoriating them for it.
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Okay, I take old spice advertisements more seriously than I do political advertisements. If your stupid enough to make a life changing decision over a political ad, you deserve to be fooled. In any circumstance, I'd like to make a case that this brunette you can't help but draw attention to happens to never state that she is republican. Her FAMILY is Republican is all that she says. The ad still isn't technically lying to you. Well, if we're going to get as nitpicky as you are.
 
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cpwill said:
Indeed they do. And when advertisers use actors, they are required to say so in print on the screen.
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I can find no evidence this is true.

However, this isn't advertising for a product - it's part of a political campaign. And these aren't actresses, they are activists. There is no tiny print at the bottom at any point saying "these people are actually democrat party members and thus not who they are claiming to be". The ad entails a bunch of women lying about who they are in order to try to paint a false picture of the race.
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I dunno, maybe you are unaware of what an actor is. Here, let me help: Actor | Define Actor at Dictionary.com. Important note, some actors are activists. Another note: your source only identifies one person from the commercial, how is you can make claims about others?

What is funny is the extent you are willing to go to to defend this crap. Had Republicans gotten caught pulling a stunt like this you would have been (rightly) excoriating them for it.
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Unsurprisingly, you are wrong again. Getting upset that the women sitting around discussing what they use on heavy flow days are paid actors would be just like what you are doing. I will save my time for more important things.

And just one last thing, I missed it last time, but you commented on how "they got caught". There is no evidence "they" tried to hide the fact that they hired women to play the rolls. I mean, who would go to that length to look silly making a big deal out of something like this. Oh wait, National Review would, but then again there is a reason no one takes them seriously.
 
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frogloe said:
Okay, I take old spice advertisements more seriously than I do political advertisements.
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old spice =/= the DNC. for one thing, Old Spice does not lie in it's commercials, and is legally liable when and if they do.

If your stupid enough to make a life changing decision over a political ad, you deserve to be fooled.
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you consider the act of you voting in November to be a personally life-changing decision? wow, I thought I was obsessed :)

In any circumstance, I'd like to make a case that this brunette you can't help but draw attention to happens to never state that she is republican. Her FAMILY is Republican is all that she says. The ad still isn't technically lying to you. Well, if we're going to get as nitpicky as you are.
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:lol: fair enough. not a lie, merely dishonest. Still quite funny. Wonder what the background of the other women is?
 
Re: "Republican Women for Obama"

cpwill said:
:) fixed that one for you.


hint: these women are not "actresses", they are "activists". there being a difference between the two ;)
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Yeah....their called Swiftboat "Veteran's for lies".
 
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Redress said:
What big scandal are you going to uncover tomorrow? I know: OH MY GOD, Obama told his daughters santa was real...in the White House even! IMPEACH HIM!
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Trollin'.......

Trollin'.......

Trollin' on a RiVer.......
 
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Redress said:
No, my defense is that advertising has always used actors. Most of us knew that. Finding it funny that you didn't is not an ad hom.
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Substitute "actors" for "lie".

What happened to transparency in the Obama White House?
 
Re: "Republican Women for Obama"

Redress said:
I can find no evidence this is true.
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go watch the medical advertisements. if the person wearing a white lab coat talking about "I recommend Zylonex" isn't a doctor, the screen will put the words "this person is actually a paid actor" or something to that effect somewhere on there during the commercial.

And just one last thing, I missed it last time, but you commented on how "they got caught". There is no evidence "they" tried to hide the fact that they hired women to play the rolls
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no, they got at least one woman to misrepresent herself. that's all. :) You are actually making a bigger deal out of this than I am. But that's to be expected. Your M.O. when your side is wrong is to launch an ad hominem assault on the person pointing that out.
 
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disneydude said:
Yeah....their called Swiftboat "Veteran's for lies".
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You can disagree with their content if you like (and that is a subject for other threads), but none of them misrepresented who they were.
 
Re: "Republican Women for Obama"

cpwill said:
Indeed they do. And when advertisers use actors, they are required to say so in print on the screen.

However, this isn't advertising for a product - it's part of a political campaign. And these aren't actresses, they are activists. There is no tiny print at the bottom at any point saying "these people are actually democrat party members and thus not who they are claiming to be". The ad entails a bunch of women lying about who they are in order to try to paint a false picture of the race.

What is funny is the extent you are willing to go to to defend this crap. Had Republicans gotten caught pulling a stunt like this you would have been (rightly) excoriating them for it.
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Let's see you condemn these crap:

Dems suspect fake GOP candidacy | Poli-Bites | Detroit Free Press | freep.com


Fake GOP candidacy suspected

With election fraud and fake candidate shenanigans making plenty of news in Michigan, some Democrats believe they've identified a bogus candidacy for the Michigan Supreme Court.

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Democrats have nominated an all-female slate to try to unseat the two Republican nominees, Justices Stephen Markman and Brian Zahra, who face voters Nov. 6. Party Chairman Mark Brewer says the more candidates there are, the more it helps the GOP, and a female candidate is more likely to draw votes away from the Democratic nominees.
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Campaign vendors say Republican Congressman David Rivera funded Democrat’s failed primary bid - Florida - MiamiHerald.com

Fueled with $43,000 in secret money, Republican Rep. David Rivera helped run a shadow campaign that might have broken federal laws in last week’s Democratic primary against his political nemesis Joe Garcia, according to campaign sources and finance records.

But late last week he told The Herald that Rivera was directly involved in the Sternad campaign mailings — a fact backed up by numerous sources with knowledge of the operation.

Interviews with campaign sources, invoices, campaign records and other documents show that Rivera personally and frequently called Rapid Mail about Sternad’s mailers. During one call, Rivera directed an employee to walk outside, check the office mailbox for an envelope containing payment for one mailer., the sources said.

The envelope was stuffed with cash — $7,800.

Last week, Borrero told The Herald that the Sternad campaign had paid cash for six of the cash mailers, which cost between $4,000 and $6,000 each. He said he was surprised by the amount of cash, which he sometimes may see from private clients and not usually campaigns.

“I never saw so much cash,” Borrero said last week.
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Dexter downs fake Democrat in recall primary

Former state Rep. Kristin Dexter has defeated fake Democrat James Engel in a state Senate recall primary.

Preliminary results from Tuesday's elections show Dexter, an Eau Claire Democrat, with 63 percent of the vote. Engel, of Fall Creek, had 37 percent.

All four Democrats faced Republicans running as Democrats on Tuesday. The GOP recruited the fake candidates to ensure all the Democrats had primaries.
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GOP runs fake Democrats for office - WaupacaNOW

It seems the Republican Party, which has been touting the voter ID law as a way to restore integrity to elections, has its own integrity problems.

The GOP is again running fake Democrats in the recall in an attempt to delay the Senate races until June 5 and add extra cost to the election. Republicans running as Democrats this year are Gladys Huber for governor, Isaac Weix for lieutenant governor, and Gary Ellerman, Tamara Varebrook, James Engel and James Buckley in the four state Senate recalls.

What's wrong with running a Republican who pretends to be a Democrat in a Democratic primary? According to Jeremy P. Levinson, one of Wisconsin's top elections attorneys, in a memo issued April 4, it is in violation of 12.13(3)(a), Wis. Stats and a Class A Felony. It is a crime to falsify information on declaration of candidacy or nomination papers.

The form specifically requires a candidate to declare that their candidacy is "representing" the political party for which the primary is to take place. This statement must be made under oath. Furthermore, the nomination papers would also be fraudulent and those persons who circulated them could be implicated. Penalties for this crime include fines as much as $10,000 and 3 1/2 years in prison.

The GOP also employed these tactics in last years recall elections when they ran fake Democrats. I hate to admit it, but the GOP was right: there is voter fraud occurring in Wisconsin. Let's hope they don't get away with their own sleazy tactics again.
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nonpareil said:
Let's see you condemn these crap:
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um, if true, then sure? that's obvious - black flag ops are wrong in domestic American politics.
 
Re: "Republican Women for Obama"

cpwill said:
I've always wondered at this tack. The people who came out every election who had always been a loyal member of the opposition until this horrible guy always seemed... oddly convenient and unlikely volunteers to star in the oppositions' campaign. It seems now we are far enough in the information age where those trying it will get busted. :mrgreen:

:lamo
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I also wake up every morning thinking my coffee tastes that much better because Obama is President, then I turn and salute his portrait on my wall and swear to work harder everyday for Obama's America.
 
Re: "Republican Women for Obama"

cpwill said:
um, if true, then sure?
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Didn't see you being skeptical of the OP article. Can you show that her family do not vote Republican?

that's obvious - black flag ops are wrong in domestic American politics.
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What's obvious is that I don't see you actually condemning the Republicans for these tactics which are found in multiple places and corroborated by many sources, after asking for instances where Republicans acted this way.
 
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Wiseone said:
I also wake up every morning thinking my coffee tastes that much better because Obama is President, then I turn and salute his portrait on my wall and swear to work harder everyday for Obama's America.
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The same is probably done in Greece as the Obama vision is turning this country into Greece or some other European country with high unemployment, low economic growth, and high unemployment. Every day of Obama is another day closer to implementing his vision of a massive Govt. central economy just like Europe
 
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