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What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85, 252]

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What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's* tax returns?

  • Are we looking for illegal activity?
  • Are we looking for his tax exemptions? If they're legal, why does that matter?
  • Are we looking for the rate he paid? Somewhat tied to the previous point, if he paid less legally due to exemptions, why does that matter?
  • Are we looking for his charitable, or lack of, contributions so we can say, "Aha!!!"

Seriously, what do we expect to find? Please, to those for whom this is a big deal, be specific.

*- Really applies to any candidate in any election, but Romney is the 'guy-du-jour'.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

radcen said:
What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's* tax returns?

  • Are we looking for illegal activity?
  • Are we looking for his tax exemptions? If they're legal, why does that matter?
  • Are we looking for the rate he paid? Somewhat tied to the previous point, if he paid less legally due to exemptions, why does that matter?
  • Are we looking for his charitable, or lack of, contributions so we can say, "Aha!!!"

Seriously, what do we expect to find? Please, to those for whom this is a big deal, be specific.

*- Really applies to any candidate in any election, but Romney is the 'guy-du-jour'.
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No one expects to find anything, it's only used by the left as a diversion from the real issues facing this country that Obama has failed on.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

radcen said:
What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's* tax returns?

  • Are we looking for illegal activity?
  • Are we looking for his tax exemptions? If they're legal, why does that matter?
  • Are we looking for the rate he paid? Somewhat tied to the previous point, if he paid less legally due to exemptions, why does that matter?
  • Are we looking for his charitable, or lack of, contributions so we can say, "Aha!!!"

Seriously, what do we expect to find? Please, to those for whom this is a big deal, be specific.

*- Really applies to any candidate in any election, but Romney is the 'guy-du-jour'.
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I don't care in the least whether or not Romney releases his tax returns. I know he and his wife are richer than God. I know he minimizes his taxes and uses every single legal loophole to avoid paying them. And even so, he and his ilk pay 71% of all the income tax collected in this country. So, thank you, Mitt Romney. (And others.) I'm betting most Republicans will still vote their ideology. I think strongly that I'm correct.

The Democrats are licking their chops over those returns for several reasons: It will keep the media focus off the real campaign issues. They can't wait to scream, "That rich bastard is using loopholes to not pay tax!!!!!" His campaign would necessarily shift from the real problems that are plaguing our country to the complicated, messed-up tax code -- which 90% of Americans don't even understand.

And, as usual, Congress created the problems. It's their tax code.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

radcen said:
What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's* tax returns?

  • Are we looking for illegal activity?
  • Are we looking for his tax exemptions? If they're legal, why does that matter?
  • Are we looking for the rate he paid? Somewhat tied to the previous point, if he paid less legally due to exemptions, why does that matter?
  • Are we looking for his charitable, or lack of, contributions so we can say, "Aha!!!"

Seriously, what do we expect to find? Please, to those for whom this is a big deal, be specific.

*- Really applies to any candidate in any election, but Romney is the 'guy-du-jour'.
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compliance, just like all the other presidential candidates. At least that is what i think.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Carleen said:
compliance, just like all the other presidential candidates. At least that is what i think.
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Than you should be fine with whats available. When someone is found in violation of the tax code following an audit, it would become a court case which would then become public information. Someone with Romney's wealth would likely undergo frequent audits. IRS (speculating but pretty common sense) would likely use some form of targeting scheme for their audits. So if no case exists (pretty clear it doesn't as it would have certainly made the news by now), his taxes are in compliance with the law.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

I am old fashioned in that I want my President to be American Patriot #1 and be a huge booster for the nation and its people. I am a throwback to the day when America and its leaders took care of America first and the American people above all others.

My goal regarding the Romney tax returns would be to discover one simple thing: is Romney American Patriot #1 who puts America and its people first? Does his personal history of making important decisions reflect this patriotism or does it show something else entirely different and disturbing for the man who wants to put the welfare of the nation and its people in his hands for four years?

That is what I want to discover from the Romney missing tax returns.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
I am old fashioned in that I want my President to be American Patriot #1 and be a huge booster for the nation and its people. I am a throwback to the day when America and its leaders took care of America first and the American people above all others.

My goal regarding the Romney tax returns would be to discover one simple thing: is Romney American Patriot #1 who puts America and its people first? Does his personal history of making important decisions reflect this patriotism or does it show something else entirely different and disturbing for the man who wants to put the welfare of the nation and its people in his hands for four years?

That is what I want to discover from the Romney missing tax returns.
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You mean by complying with the tax code, he is somehow not an American Patriot?
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
I am old fashioned in that I want my President to be American Patriot #1 and be a huge booster for the nation and its people. I am a throwback to the day when America and its leaders took care of America first and the American people above all others.

My goal regarding the Romney tax returns would be to discover one simple thing: is Romney American Patriot #1 who puts America and its people first? Does his personal history of making important decisions reflect this patriotism or does it show something else entirely different and disturbing for the man who wants to put the welfare of the nation and its people in his hands for four years?

That is what I want to discover from the Romney missing tax returns.
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So you think a tax return defines an American Patriot? What part, the part that shows charitable giving? I find it interesting that liberals now want to define patriotism by the percentage one pays in taxes and not the actual amount.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Born Free said:
You mean by complying with the tax code, he is somehow not an American Patriot?
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Please read my response again:

I am old fashioned in that I want my President to be American Patriot #1 and be a huge booster for the nation and its people. I am a throwback to the day when America and its leaders took care of America first and the American people above all others.

My goal regarding the Romney tax returns would be to discover one simple thing: is Romney American Patriot #1 who puts America and its people first? Does his personal history of making important decisions reflect this patriotism or does it show something else entirely different and disturbing for the man who wants to put the welfare of the nation and its people in his hands for four years?

That is what I want to discover from the Romney missing tax returns.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Conservative said:
So you think a tax return defines an American Patriot? What part, the part that shows charitable giving? I find it interesting that liberals now want to define patriotism by the percentage one pays in taxes and not the actual amount.
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I think the decisions Romney made help identify Romney as a patriot or not someone who has placed America and its people first.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Fishstyx said:
Than you should be fine with whats available. When someone is found in violation of the tax code following an audit, it would become a court case which would then become public information. Someone with Romney's wealth would likely undergo frequent audits. IRS (speculating but pretty common sense) would likely use some form of targeting scheme for their audits. So if no case exists (pretty clear it doesn't as it would have certainly made the news by now), his taxes are in compliance with the law.
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If he can show 24 years to McCain then he should comply with the 5 years that are requested by the administration. I'm not talking about compliance with the law. He now says that his tithing to the Mormon church is private and that is why he doesn't release any more. Then why release any? More confusing than ever.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Carleen said:
compliance, just like all the other presidential candidates. At least that is what i think.
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Not sure what you mean. Compliance with the tax code, or compliance with the "expectation" that candidates show their returns?

I interpreted it as the latter.


haymarket said:
I am old fashioned in that I want my President to be American Patriot #1 and be a huge booster for the nation and its people. I am a throwback to the day when America and its leaders took care of America first and the American people above all others.

My goal regarding the Romney tax returns would be to discover one simple thing: is Romney American Patriot #1 who puts America and its people first? Does his personal history of making important decisions reflect this patriotism or does it show something else entirely different and disturbing for the man who wants to put the welfare of the nation and its people in his hands for four years?

That is what I want to discover from the Romney missing tax returns.
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I don't completely agree, but I appreciate your honest answer.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Conservative said:
So you think a tax return defines an American Patriot? What part, the part that shows charitable giving? I find it interesting that liberals now want to define patriotism by the percentage one pays in taxes and not the actual amount.
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And lets not forget him giving his entire inheritance to charity, working as governor and head of the Olympics for free, encouraging billions (if not trillions) of dollars in growth for the US economy through the expansion of several of our largest and most well known businesses (Staples? Dominos? Others?).
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
I am old fashioned in that I want my President to be American Patriot #1 and be a huge booster for the nation and its people. I am a throwback to the day when America and its leaders took care of America first and the American people above all others.

My goal regarding the Romney tax returns would be to discover one simple thing: is Romney American Patriot #1 who puts America and its people first? Does his personal history of making important decisions reflect this patriotism or does it show something else entirely different and disturbing for the man who wants to put the welfare of the nation and its people in his hands for four years?

That is what I want to discover from the Romney missing tax returns.
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And please to tell us how you will judge his returns to make that determination. How does President Obama's tax return show he is a patriot and puts the American people first? What is your criteria?

Nice speech, Haymarket; I've seen you make that one before. It's empty.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
Please read my response again:

I am old fashioned in that I want my President to be American Patriot #1 and be a huge booster for the nation and its people. I am a throwback to the day when America and its leaders took care of America first and the American people above all others.

My goal regarding the Romney tax returns would be to discover one simple thing: is Romney American Patriot #1 who puts America and its people first? Does his personal history of making important decisions reflect this patriotism or does it show something else entirely different and disturbing for the man who wants to put the welfare of the nation and its people in his hands for four years?

That is what I want to discover from the Romney missing tax returns.
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You can repeat all you want, the fact is, according to you Romney complying with the tax code is somehow not an American Patriot?
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
I think the decisions Romney made help identify Romney as a patriot or not someone who has placed America and its people first.
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Right, you mean like taking private money to try and save jobs vs public money to try and save jobs? Apparently you support a Govt. central economy vs a private sector centered economy? When Romney lost money it wasn't taxpayer money but when companies like Solyndra failed it was taxpayer money. You see the difference?
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

MaggieD said:
And please to tell us how you will judge his returns to make that determination. How does President Obama's tax return show he is a patriot and puts the American people first? What is your criteria?

Nice speech, Haymarket; I've seen you make that one before. It's empty.
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I would look to see how and where he has made his investments. Were they with America - American corporations which helped American jobs and the American people? Or were they part of the effort to help companies do business elsewhere and promote jobs elsewhere at the expense of the American worker and the American people? Does Romney put his money in American banks and institutions of investment or does he invest in other nations and help grow them while America suffers and declines due to lack of investment.

I hope that helps Maggie.

And its a good speech. It tests well especially on the cute housewife set. ;):cool::2wave:
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Conservative said:
Right, you mean like taking private money to try and save jobs vs public money to try and save jobs? Apparently you support a Govt. central economy vs a private sector centered economy? When Romney lost money it wasn't taxpayer money but when companies like Solyndra failed it was taxpayer money. You see the difference?
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NO. That has nothing to do with my concerns at all. You need to go back and read again.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

tessaesque said:
And lets not forget him giving his entire inheritance to charity, working as governor and head of the Olympics for free, encouraging billions (if not trillions) of dollars in growth for the US economy through the expansion of several of our largest and most well known businesses (Staples? Dominos? Others?).
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Right, how unpatriotic of him!! LOL
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Born Free said:
You can repeat all you want, the fact is, according to you Romney complying with the tax code is somehow not an American Patriot?
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It is YOU who are repeating nonsense. I am NOT questioning if Romney met the laws of the tax code. I want the US President to be American Patriot #1 and have the American people as his or her highest priority. The economic decisions Romney has made over the last decade will help answer that question.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
NO. That has nothing to do with my concerns at all. You need to go back and read again.
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Do you think him running the Olympics and as Governor for no salary was patriotic? Do you think donating his entire inheritance to the church is patriotic? Is it better to give to private charity or to the govt. to let politicians spend your money more patriotic?
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
I would look to see how and where he has made his investments. Were they with America - American corporations which helped American jobs and the American people? Or were they part of the effort to help companies do business elsewhere and promote jobs elsewhere at the expense of the American worker and the American people? Does Romney put his money in American banks and institutions of investment or does he invest in other nations and help grow them while America suffers and declines due to lack of investment.

I hope that helps Maggie.

And its a good speech. It tests well especially on the cute housewife set. ;):cool::2wave:
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How does President Obama score? :rofl
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
It is YOU who are repeating nonsense. I am NOT questioning if Romney met the laws of the tax code. I want the US President to be American Patriot #1 and have the American people as his or her highest priority. The economic decisions Romney has made over the last decade will help answer that question.
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My bet is you want the issue and nothing Romney does is going to earn your vote. Again you want a govt. central economy vs. a private sector centered economy. In the private sector I worked with a lot of small business people who were always very happy when they made money and very gloomy when they were losing money. Seems that you and other liberals want to spread liberal misery equally to everyone else.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

MaggieD said:
How does President Obama score? :rofl
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You would have to ask Michelle for those details. ;)
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
I would look to see how and where he has made his investments. Were they with America - American corporations which helped American jobs and the American people? Or were they part of the effort to help companies do business elsewhere and promote jobs elsewhere at the expense of the American worker and the American people? Does Romney put his money in American banks and institutions of investment or does he invest in other nations and help grow them while America suffers and declines due to lack of investment.

I hope that helps Maggie.

And its a good speech. It tests well especially on the cute housewife set. ;):cool::2wave:
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Well, he did release his 2010 tax return:
Mitt Romney's 1040 tax return for 2010 - Boston.com
How about you skim through that and point out those unpatriotic acts of his that have you so worried.
Then perhaps you might post your own return so we can check your patriotism.
 
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