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What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85, 252]

re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
Again, if you want to do comparisons, you tell me.
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You are the one claiming you want to see the Romney tax returns, the 2010 has been posted and the preliminary 2011 has been posted, so what in those returns makes Romney unpatriotic to you? I have told you many times I don't care about tax returns unless there is some violation of the law. You are the one making it an issue as if you would vote for Romney anyway
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Bobcat said:
What decisions? Do you think Romney sits down with turbotax and does his taxes on his PC? He has lawyers and tax accountants do it, The IRS audits him every year.

What decisions do Pelosi and her untra rich husband make about their taxes?

This whole thing is foolish.
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FOOLISH - like comparing somebody NOT running for president with somebody that is.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Conservative said:
You are the one claiming you want to see the Romney tax returns, the 2010 has been posted and the preliminary 2011 has been posted, so what in those returns makes Romney unpatriotic to you? I have told you many times I don't care about tax returns unless there is some violation of the law. You are the one making it an issue as if you would vote for Romney anyway
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Yeah - out of 311 million people I am the only one. :roll::shock:
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
FOOLISH - like comparing somebody NOT running for president with somebody that is.
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just pointing out the hypocrisy, and you do realize that at one time the botoxed bitch was #3 in line for the presidency don't you?
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
FOOLISH - like comparing somebody NOT running for president with somebody that is.
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or comparing one person with political power to someone who wants political power.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
Yeah - out of 311 million people I am the only one. :roll::shock:
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Who said you were the only one? Sorry you cannot defend your position on this issue as you do what you always do, run when rebuked. What is it in the 2010 tax returns that wouldn't make Romney a Patriot?
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
FOOLISH - like comparing somebody NOT running for president with somebody that is.
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Have bothered to listen to Obama's speeches? Seems he is running for President instead of re-election as he tells you what he is going to do while ignoring what he has done. He definitely has a vision for this country which he is implementing and sheep continue to follow.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
I would look to see how and where he has made his investments. Were they with America - American corporations which helped American jobs and the American people? Or were they part of the effort to help companies do business elsewhere and promote jobs elsewhere at the expense of the American worker and the American people? Does Romney put his money in American banks and institutions of investment or does he invest in other nations and help grow them while America suffers and declines due to lack of investment.

I hope that helps Maggie.

And its a good speech. It tests well especially on the cute housewife set. ;):cool::2wave:
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Interesting, you suggest Romney through Bain Capital did not invest in American companies. He did not invest his time running the US Olympics, and he did not invest his time being a Governor. But I really like how you praise the rich as it is they that keep America strong by their investments. I was of the understanding you liberals always say American is made from the bottom up, not from the top down by the rich investing.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Born Free said:
Interesting, you suggest Romney through Bain Capital did not invest in American companies. He did not invest his time running the US Olympics, and he did not invest his time being a Governor. But I really like how you praise the rich as it is they that keep America strong by their investments. I was of the understanding you liberals always say American is made from the bottom up, not from the top down by the rich investing.
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Yes. We all know that Bain and the evil Romney only invested in foreign names like Burger King, Sealy, Dunkin Donuts, Staples, Burlington,Gymborie, and Toys r Us. If only those companies were here in America and employed Americans, people like haymarket would vote for Romney.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Conservative said:
I didn't look at them nor do I care. You and other liberals are making Romney's tax returns or any other Republican tax returns an issue just to divert from the Obama results. Since you want to compare tax returns how did both compare in charitable giving? Is it objectionable that Romney gave 3 million to charity?
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Yes, they are, but... if the situation were reversed, the Reps would be doing the same thing. IOW: there's no moral high ground here to claim.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Fletch said:
Yes. We all know that Bain and the evil Romney only invested in foreign names like Burger King, Sealy, Dunkin Donuts, Staples, Burlington,Gymborie, and Toys r Us. If only those companies were here in America and employed Americans, people like haymarket would vote for Romney.
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Yes but Haymarket has to see Romney's tax return to make sure he invested in American companies.

Here we go:

Bain Capital is a Boston-headquartered alternative asset management and financial services company that specializes in private equity, venture capital, credit and public market investments. Bain invests across a broad range of industry sectors and geographic regions. As of early 2012, the firm managed approximately $66 billion of investor capital across its various investment platforms.

The firm was founded in 1984 by partners from the consulting firm Bain & Company. Since inception it has invested in or acquired hundreds of companies including AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin' Donuts, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys "R" Us, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel.

Bain Capital - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
I am old fashioned in that I want my President to be American Patriot #1 and be a huge booster for the nation and its people. I am a throwback to the day when America and its leaders took care of America first and the American people above all others.

My goal regarding the Romney tax returns would be to discover one simple thing: is Romney American Patriot #1 who puts America and its people first? Does his personal history of making important decisions reflect this patriotism or does it show something else entirely different and disturbing for the man who wants to put the welfare of the nation and its people in his hands for four years?

That is what I want to discover from the Romney missing tax returns.
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You've said this before...and I'll tell you the same thing I told you then:

You won't find anything in his returns that indicate his patriotism. All you'll find is the fact that he has complied with our law...or he has not.

If you want an indication of his patriotism...if that is the overarching characteristic that will enable you to vote for him...then you should look to his record of public and private service. If you find he has done anything that is, in your view, unpatriotic then let us know. I, for one, would be interested in knowing about it.

However, you'll excuse me, I'm sure, if I don't believe you.

I believe you are nothing but a crazy taxer.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

radcen said:
Yes, they are, but... if the situation were reversed, the Reps would be doing the same thing. IOW: there's no moral high ground here to claim.
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I have been voting for almost 50 years and not once did I ever care about a tax return. As long as the candidate didn't break any law nothing else mattered to me. Liberals today are diverting from the Obama record to simply focus on how much money Romney has made. I don't care, but I do care about leadership and Romney has it, Obama doesn't
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

haymarket said:
I am old fashioned in that I want my President to be American Patriot #1 and be a huge booster for the nation and its people. I am a throwback to the day when America and its leaders took care of America first and the American people above all others.

My goal regarding the Romney tax returns would be to discover one simple thing: is Romney American Patriot #1 who puts America and its people first? Does his personal history of making important decisions reflect this patriotism or does it show something else entirely different and disturbing for the man who wants to put the welfare of the nation and its people in his hands for four years?

That is what I want to discover from the Romney missing tax returns.
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Tell us what President Obama's tax returns show, Haymarket. Show us how they prove he is a loyal American who puts America first. Still waiting.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Born Free said:
Interesting, you suggest Romney through Bain Capital did not invest in American companies. He did not invest his time running the US Olympics, and he did not invest his time being a Governor. But I really like how you praise the rich as it is they that keep America strong by their investments. I was of the understanding you liberals always say American is made from the bottom up, not from the top down by the rich investing.
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Haymarket has seemed to disappear today. He doesn't like being rebuked and not able to respond with anything coherent and accurate
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

I think they are looking to see if he invested in the Jerry Sandusky foundation, so they can tie him to pedophilia. That's all I can think of.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

radcen said:
[*]Are we looking for his tax exemptions? If they're legal, why does that matter?
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First step to fixing the tax code is identify the problem. We could increase revenue greatly by just eliminating unfair loopholes.


[*]Are we looking for the rate he paid? Somewhat tied to the previous point, if he paid less legally due to exemptions, why does that matter?
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Mitt is already admitting he paid 13%.


[*]Are we looking for his charitable, or lack of, contributions so we can say, "Aha!!!"

Seriously, what do we expect to find? Please, to those for whom this is a big deal, be specific.
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I think by examining and explaining how his taxes work, the American people can have a very important conversation.
 
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re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Mr. Romney has few topics about which he can now speak. One by one, the substantive topics for debate are disappearing, deemed too problematic for the Romney campaign to address. Business acumen, experience as governor, US Olympics, Romney budget, women's issues, immigration reform, all toxic. Mr. Romney is reduced to dragging out the birther baggage to pad his stump speeches and give his base a few crumbs. And to call attention away from his flip-flopping on all important issues.

But what is the single issue on which Mr. Romney has never flip-flopped? He stands doggedly firm on never, under any circumstances, releasing his tax returns.

Why?

It is not just liberals who want to see Romney's tax returns.
It is 63% of American voters who do.

The longer Mr. Romney delays, the more suspicious it appears.

Obama released 8 years of tax returns
GW Bush 10 years
Clinton 12 years
GHW Bush 14 years
George Romney 12 years.

What is there to hide?
Release the tax returns, Mr. Romney.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

What are we looking for?
Transparency.

Mr. Romney has few topics about which he can now speak. One by one, the substantive topics for debate are disappearing, deemed too problematic for the Romney campaign to address. Business acumen, experience as governor, US Olympics, Romney budget, women's issues, immigration reform, all toxic. Mr. Romney is reduced to dragging out the birther baggage to pad his stump speeches and give his base a few crumbs. And to call attention away from his flip-flopping on all important issues.

But what is the single issue on which Mr. Romney has never flip-flopped? He stands doggedly firm on never, under any circumstances, releasing his tax returns.

Why?

It is not just liberals who want to see Romney's tax returns.
It is 63% of American voters who do.

The longer Mr. Romney delays, the more suspicious it appears.

Obama released 8 years of tax returns
GW Bush 10 years
Clinton 12 years
GHW Bush 14 years
George Romney 12 years.

What is there to hide?
Release the tax returns, Mr. Romney.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

MaggieD said:
Tell us what President Obama's tax returns show, Haymarket. Show us how they prove he is a loyal American who puts America first. Still waiting.
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I think what Haymarket means is that funneling money off shore feels like you don't believe in America. And that aggressively avoiding taxes through various strategies also raises questions about what you really believe in. Seeing his taxes would allow the American people to have an important conversation about why some of these strategies exist.

I would doubt that President Obama with his current salary and after tax take-home is utilizing the same tax avoidance methods as Mitt Romney has likely used. Not a big enough pie.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Let me point out that my parents are Middleclass and they payed a 40% tax rate. Romney payed a "13%" tax rate... sigh...
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

hazlnut said:
I think what Haymarket means is that funneling money off shore feels like you don't believe in America. And that aggressively avoiding taxes through various strategies also raises questions about what you really believe in. Seeing his taxes would allow the American people to have an important conversation about why some of these strategies exist.

I would doubt that President Obama with his current salary and after tax take-home is utilizing the same tax avoidance methods as Mitt Romney has likely used. Not a big enough pie.
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Hazlnut!!! Why did you give Haymarket the answer??? Ha!

I actually disagree that you, me, Haymarket or anyone else on this forum could take a look at his tax returns and figure out what he did. I doubt a tax expert could do so without Romney's (or his advisers') help. But the media will pounce on it like a fox on a mouse, read it in the worst possible light, and then liberals will pick up what they puke out and adopt it as their own.

Never give someone the hammer with which to hit you over the head. Or answer somebody else's post on the internet!! :rofl :rofl
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Conservative said:
Haymarket has seemed to disappear today. He doesn't like being rebuked and not able to respond with anything coherent and accurate
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I saw that too, hope it was nothing I said.....heh, heh....
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

Jryan said:
Let me point out that my parents are Middleclass and they payed a 40% tax rate. Romney payed a "13%" tax rate... sigh...
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Was your parents income due to capital gains? If not it is apples to oranges.
 
re: What, exactly, are "we" looking for in Romney's tax returns? [W:85]

MaggieD said:
Hazlnut!!! Why did you give Haymarket the answer??? Ha!

I actually disagree that you, me, Haymarket or anyone else on this forum could take a look at his tax returns and figure out what he did. I doubt a tax expert could do so without Romney's (or his advisers') help. But the media will pounce on it like a fox on a mouse, read it in the worst possible light, and then liberals will pick up what they puke out and adopt it as their own.

Never give someone the hammer with which to hit you over the head. Or answer somebody else's post on the internet!! :rofl :rofl
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What gets me about this, is that it is so dishonest...Nothing is illegal to deposit savings, or investment in foreign banks. The intentional mischaracterization of this as something illegal, or unethical is disgusting....
 
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