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Mitt Romney Makes Reporter Agree Not To Ask About Todd Akin Or Abortion

Hairytic said:
You ignoring the evidence that is all over the internet is not my fault. Do the research. The truth is, Ryan cosponsered 38 bills with Akin, many of which did not allow exceptions. Romney is a flip flopper. That's why they are being asked about Akin's comments. The big question is, did they change their stance on Akin's comments, or are they running away from the issue in an atempt to be elected?
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Don't kid yourself.

The big question here has nothing to do with Romney's or Ryan's stance on Akin's comments. His comments were ridiculous and they were his alone. The big question is why are people like you so desperate to connect them to Romney? Could it be because Obama can't campaign on issues that matter? Seriously, some guy not in any way connected to the Romney campaign makes a ridiculous statement and now Romney has to answer for it as if it somehow came directly from him??

You people never cease to amaze me with your ability to cling to the most obscure and convoluted lines of reasoning as if they were somehow the only things that really matter. This whole thing is textbook "much to do about nothing". Akin made some stupid comments. It cost him his job.(deservedly) End of story.
 
Jack Fabulous;1060831296 His comments were ridiculous and they were his alone. The big question is why are people like you so desperate to connect them to Romney? [/QUOTE said:
Akin's comments are from a long standing attempt from the right to ban abortions. In the 70s, Dr. Willke put out a statement that women who are raped can not become pregnant. Romney openly praise Dr. Willke on his efforts in bringing about an all out ban on abortions. Ryan is connected to Akin on cosponsering 38 anti-abortion bills that include Dr. Willke's assumptions on rape. Obama didn't have to link Romney and Ryan to Akin. Romeny and Ryan did that for themselves. Akin didn't just make a stupid statement. He made an open statement the anti-abortionists didn't want out in the open. Do your homework.
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Hairytic said:
Akin's comments are from a long standing attempt from the right to ban abortions. In the 70s, Dr. Willke put out a statement that women who are raped can not become pregnant. Romney openly praise Dr. Willke on his efforts in bringing about an all out ban on abortions. Ryan is connected to Akin on cosponsering 38 anti-abortion bills that include Dr. Willke's assumptions on rape. Obama didn't have to link Romney and Ryan to Akin. Romeny and Ryan did that for themselves. Akin didn't just make a stupid statement. He made an open statement the anti-abortionists didn't want out in the open. Do your homework.
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So then... this guy, Dr. Willke put out a statement in "the 70s" that women couldn't become pregnant because of rape. Then, while seeking the Republican nomination in 2008 Romney was endorsed by this same man who had by this time become one of the nations leading anti-abortion proponents. Romney had this to say about him after receiving the endorsement...

"I am proud to have the support of a man who has meant so much to the pro-life movement in our country," Romney said in a statement at the time. "He knows how important it is to have someone in Washington who will actively promote pro-life policies. Policies that include more than appointing judges who will follow the law but also opposing taxpayer funded abortion and partial birth abortion. I look forward to working with Dr. Willke and welcome him to Romney for President."

Sounds to me like this Dr. Willke guy sought out Romney and not the other way around. Romney runs on a pro-life platform. One of the leading pro-life proponents endorses him. DUH!!

Also, it is worth noting that Paul Ryan was, like, 6 years old when the good doctor first made his claim about rape and pregnancy. I seriously doubt that he gave it much thought at the time given the distractions that a 6 year old has to deal with.


I stand by my previous assessment. This line of reasoning is convoluted, obscure, and in no way an issue of importance. It's manufactured outrage, yet again, from desperate liberals.
 
MaggieD said:
And you don't think press conferences given by President Obama are carefully scripted? The reporter could have refused...just as the Washington Press Corps could refuse. But they don't, because they want the interview. That's what's called a standard modus operandi.
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But ... but ... but ... How can I get my Katie Couric moment if I refuse?

A L
 
Jack Fabulous said:
Sounds to me like this Dr. Willke guy sought out Romney and not the other way around. Romney runs on a pro-life platform. One of the leading pro-life proponents endorses him. DUH!!

Also, it is worth noting that Paul Ryan was, like, 6 years old when the good doctor first made his claim about rape and pregnancy. I seriously doubt that he gave it much thought at the time given the distractions that a 6 year old has to deal with.

I stand by my previous assessment. This line of reasoning is convoluted, obscure, and in no way an issue of importance. It's manufactured outrage, yet again, from desperate liberals.
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Dr. Willke is from the more radical pro-life movement in that they want an all out ban on abortion with no exceptions. All pro-lifers do not agree with his radical stance. Romney was very proud to be endorsed by Dr. Willke, but does not want to be associated with any of his statements today. In other words, Romney is running on a pro-life platform, but would run away from an endorsement from WIllke's radical views today. It doesn't matter how old Ryan was in the 70s. The radical pro-lifers still use the Dr. Willke stance on rape being an exception to abortion. The majority of Americans do not agree with this stance, so Romney and Ryan are now running away from their previous support of the radical pro-lifers.
 
Hairytic said:
Dr. Willke is from the more radical pro-life movement in that they want an all out ban on abortion with no exceptions. All pro-lifers do not agree with his radical stance. Romney was very proud to be endorsed by Dr. Willke, but does not want to be associated with any of his statements today. In other words, Romney is running on a pro-life platform, but would run away from an endorsement from WIllke's radical views today. It doesn't matter how old Ryan was in the 70s. The radical pro-lifers still use the Dr. Willke stance on rape being an exception to abortion. The majority of Americans do not agree with this stance, so Romney and Ryan are now running away from their previous support of the radical pro-lifers.
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I'm not disagreeing with the fact that this Dr. Willke guy is a radical. I am saying that to try to connect the comments from Congressman Akin to Romney is disingenuous.

Rep. Todd Akin Gets Strong Support From A Pro-Life Group : The Two-Way : NPR

'He's been denounced by Democratic and Republican candidates, including Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and lost key financial support, including from the National Republican Senatorial Campaign which AP reports was poised to pump $5 million dollars in advertising.'
 
Jack Fabulous said:
I'm not disagreeing with the fact that this Dr. Willke guy is a radical. I am saying that to try to connect the comments from Congressman Akin to Romney is disingenuous.

'He's been denounced by Democratic and Republican candidates, including Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and lost key financial support, including from the National Republican Senatorial Campaign which AP reports was poised to pump $5 million dollars in advertising.'
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The connection Romney has with Akin is only on the statement Akin made. Romney praised the author of the radical view Akin holds. It is the comment itself that Romney is connected to. Romney denounced Akin after he made the comments, not before. Romney knew what Akin's stance was about exceptions to abortion and even picked a cosponser of radical abortion bills for his VP running mate.
I'm not shocked by this, mind you, because Romney has taken a stance on every side of just about every issue there is. He is a big flip flopper.
 
Hairytic said:
A candidate's view on abortion is an important issue. The far right wants to ban abortion with no exceptions. Akin made a statement that women can not get pregnant from rape. Romney and Ryan have supported Akins legislation on this issue in the past. It is important to know where they stand. They have either flip flopped, again, or they still support this view on banning abortions with no exceptions and are telling lies.
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Obama is pro late term abortion..thats not acceptable
 
Hairytic said:
A lot more than your giving me.
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If you are a lib I should not be educating you on Obama... you should know all this..

you sound surprised? ( Im shocked...)
 
Travis007 said:
If you are a lib I should not be educating you on Obama... you should know all this..

you sound surprised? ( Im shocked...)
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Just say you have no evidence. By the way, I am progressive, not liberal.
 
Hairytic said:
Just say you have no evidence. By the way, I am progressive, not liberal.
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I started a thread on this.. the evidence is ENDLESS... Obama is proud he supports Partial Birth Abortion...this is very old news..
 
rocket88 said:
Newsbusters is BS right wing blog. Before you start, Media Matters is a BS left wing blog. Hyperpartisan blogs are not sources.
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its valid news and Bronson is 100% correct... remember Libs are against freedom.. I started a thread on this
 
CONSagainROMNEY said:
Romney doesnt want the American people to know how he stands on Abortion now?!? So he doesnt want us to know about how he stands on social issues and he doesn't want us to see his record as business man. He has no ideas on foreign policy...
I mean seriously, WTF???
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why do you mock Obama?.. oh waity Obama never had a job other then community agitator and race baiter..whoops..
 
Travis007 said:
its valid news and Bronson is 100% correct... remember Libs are against freedom.. I started a thread on this
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I see. When you don't like a source like the NY Times, it's a "liberal rag." If you do like the source, it's "valid news."

That's not at all blindly partisan, nope not at all...
 
Travis007 said:
I started a thread on this.. the evidence is ENDLESS... Obama is proud he supports Partial Birth Abortion...this is very old news..
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It's old BS news, state senator Barack Obama voted against the "born alive" bill because the language in the bill would outlaw abortion in all forms in Illinois.


FactCheck.org : Obama and ‘Infanticide’
Anti-abortion activists accuse Obama of "supporting infanticide," and the National Right to Life Committee says he’s conducted a "four-year effort to cover up his full role in killing legislation to protect born-alive survivors of abortions." Obama says they’re "lying."

At issue is Obama’s opposition to Illinois legislation in 2001, 2002 and 2003 that would have defined any aborted fetus that showed signs of life as a "born alive infant" entitled to legal protection, even if doctors believe it could not survive.

Obama opposed the 2001 and 2002 "born alive" bills as backdoor attacks on a woman’s legal right to abortion, but he says he would have been "fully in support" of a similar federal bill that President Bush had signed in 2002, because it contained protections for Roe v. Wade.
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tessaesque said:
Akin has nothing to do with anything pertinent. "Tough" question or not, it's a bunch of media-hyped nonsense and it has no business in the election cycle. Obama and his campaign staff taking every single opportunity to promote the media obsession with non-issues is also super cowardly, IMO. Why can't they just focus on what matters? If he thinks he's truly deserving of reelection he should be able to focus on the issues and not a bunch of unrelated crap and veiled personal attacks.

I'm just over this petty game. They all need to grow up, and the media is the absolute worst when it comes to this crap.
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I would say that there is definitely too much attention paid to this kind of stuff, but saying it has "no business" in the election cycle is taking it too far. We need to know what kind of people we have from which to choose, and stuff like this is a peek into their inner-minds.
 
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