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NBC/WSJ Poll: Romney Has Zero Percent Support From African Americans

Conservative said:
Fact, Republicans passed the Civil Rights Bill
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Where do come up with this crap? It would not have passed without BOTH Northern Dems and GOP, the point still is, the Northern GOP voted in favor at a lower rate than Northern Dems, the Southern GOP voted against it at a higher rate than Southern Dems.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Where do come up with this crap? It would not have passed without BOTH Northern Dems and GOP, the point still is, the Northern GOP voted in favor at a lower rate than Northern Dems, the Southern GOP voted against it at a higher rate than Southern Dems.
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It was a bi-partisan vote that passed the bill, it would not have passed without both parties voting for it. This is a foolish discussion.
 
Bobcat said:
It was a bi-partisan vote that passed the bill, it would not have passed without both parties voting for it. This is a foolish discussion.
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You are telling the wrong guy, buddy.
 
Romny has a lead in other areas...and is slightly ahead overall at this point....lets be honest..
 
rhinefire said:
Blacks will always vote for blacks just like some whites voted for anyone that opposes Obama.
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A solid majority of blacks voted for (white) Democrat Ben Cardin against (black) Republican Michael Steele, in the 2006 Maryland Senate race. In the Democratic primary for Alabama's governorship in 2010, a majority of blacks voted for (white) Ron Sparks against (black) Artur Davis.
 
Navy Pride is going to be so upset.....he's counting on anti-gay black pastors to get 20% or more of the black vote for Romney.
 
rhinefire said:
Blacks will always vote for blacks just like some whites voted for anyone that opposes Obama. It's a race thing proven to exist by every study ever done. If Obama was white and a democrat the majority of blacks would vote for him because he a dem. That is the way it is, was and will be for a l-o-n-g time.
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You've just contradicted yourself and don't even seem to realize it.

Black people always vote Democrat, but they voted for Obama because he's black? How about because he's a Democrat.

88% of black people voted for Kerry in 2004. 92% voted for Obama in 2008. At absolute best, you could say 4% of black people voted for Obama because he's black, but that's ignoring literally every other factor. Examples:

1) Kerry was a terrible candidate
2) Kerry was running against an incumbent president, always a disadvantage
3) 2008 was a major Democrat victory because a lot of people were fed up with the GOP at the time

To say that black people vote for Obama because he's black is just plain wrong. Provably so.
 
Born Free said:
Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!! - YouTube
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You'll notice she didn't actually say Obama would pay for it. Just that she wouldn't have to worry about it. Maybe, say, because she'd be more likely to get a job and be able to pay for it herself? You're making a leap there. Besides, it was an excited and hopeful woman in a crowd saying something silly. Are you suggesting tea partiers are racists because a couple of them shouted at black people walking by their protests?
 
The Logical Party salutes you Sir.

Judging all by the actions of the few is not an effective means of reaching LOGICAL conclusions.

My very best friend in the world is black. We literally cried with joy when Obusha was elected. Neither of us would consider voting for him now.

There goes that 0% theory.

Deuce said:
You'll notice she didn't actually say Obama would pay for it. Just that she wouldn't have to worry about it. Maybe, say, because she'd be more likely to get a job and be able to pay for it herself? You're making a leap there. Besides, it was an excited and hopeful woman in a crowd saying something silly. Are you suggesting tea partiers are racists because a couple of them shouted at black people walking by their protests?
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Deuce said:
You've just contradicted yourself and don't even seem to realize it.

Black people always vote Democrat, but they voted for Obama because he's black? How about because he's a Democrat.

88% of black people voted for Kerry in 2004. 92% voted for Obama in 2008. At absolute best, you could say 4% of black people voted for Obama because he's black, but that's ignoring literally every other factor. Examples:

1) Kerry was a terrible candidate
2) Kerry was running against an incumbent president, always a disadvantage
3) 2008 was a major Democrat victory because a lot of people were fed up with the GOP at the time

To say that black people vote for Obama because he's black is just plain wrong. Provably so.
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Normally, the Dem Candadate receives about 85% of the black vote in Presidential Elections. Obama received nearly 95%, which tells me that almost 10% of his "supporters" voted for him soely because of his color. In addition to that, the turnout of black voters was huge in 2008. In 2004 the voter turnout for black voters was 60.3%, in 2008 it was 65%. Why the increase? Because one of "their own" had a chance to win the election.

In fact I was told at my place of employment after the election in 2008 by a black coworker, "now, WE have our own President." I actually get along with this person, and was amused when she couldn't tell me one single policy of his that she agreed with or liked.

I realize that not all blacks who voted for him did so based on race ALONE, but it figured into that election. Not only from blacks and hispanic, but from some whites also. Unfortunatly, one of my children made the following statement prior to the election in 2008, "I think it would be cool for this country to finally have a black President." It hurt my soul to hear her say this. Not due to any racial aspect, simply because if she felt that way, then how many young voters (she's 24 now) felt or feel that way and only vote with that in mind?

The bottom line is that Obama was elected because of his race and not in-spite of his race. He was/is the wrong person for the job and to act like race played no part in it at all is silly. Furthermore, to simply say that anyone (white) who is opposed to his reelection is racist, is minimalizing any real differences one may have with his (lack of) leadership and his design for the future of this country.
 
Obama was elected mostly because he wasn't that utter doofus, GW Bush. Bush poisoned the Repugnmantcan party so thoroughly that even a reasonably moderate war hero like John McCain couldn't get elected (plus his choice of Palin really startled independent types like yours truly).

As for voting for your own kind, I'm sure Romney will get a disproportionate amount of Mormon votes. This is normal and healthy enough.

BACotner said:
Normally, the Dem Candadate receives about 85% of the black vote in Presidential Elections. Obama received nearly 95%, which tells me that almost 10% of his "supporters" voted for him soely because of his color. In addition to that, the turnout of black voters was huge in 2008. In 2004 the voter turnout for black voters was 60.3%, in 2008 it was 65%. Why the increase? Because one of "their own" had a chance to win the election.

In fact I was told at my place of employment after the election in 2008 by a black coworker, "now, WE have our own President." I actually get along with this person, and was amused when she couldn't tell me one single policy of his that she agreed with or liked.

I realize that not all blacks who voted for him did so based on race ALONE, but it figured into that election. Not only from blacks and hispanic, but from some whites also. Unfortunatly, one of my children made the following statement prior to the election in 2008, "I think it would be cool for this country to finally have a black President." It hurt my soul to hear her say this. Not due to any racial aspect, simply because if she felt that way, then how many young voters (she's 24 now) felt or feel that way and only vote with that in mind?

The bottom line is that Obama was elected because of his race and not in-spite of his race. He was/is the wrong person for the job and to act like race played no part in it at all is silly. Furthermore, to simply say that anyone (white) who is opposed to his reelection is racist, is minimalizing any real differences one may have with his (lack of) leadership and his design for the future of this country.
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Gimmesometruth said:
Northern Dems voted in a greater percentage for it than Northern GOP, Southern GOP voted against it at a greater percentage than Southern Dems.
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Fact, Civil Rights Bill would never have passed without Republican support as the numbers show.
 
specklebang said:
Obama was elected mostly because he wasn't that utter doofus, GW Bush. Bush poisoned the Repugnmantcan party so thoroughly that even a reasonably moderate war hero like John McCain couldn't get elected (plus his choice of Palin really startled independent types like yours truly).

As for voting for your own kind, I'm sure Romney will get a disproportionate amount of Mormon votes. This is normal and healthy enough.
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The fact that you call President Bush a "doofus" calls into doubt your "independent" status. While he may not have had the oratory skills of Mr. Obama, he was far from being a "doofus".
 
I called him a doofus because I had 8 years experience of his bad decisions and annoying smirk. I've now had 3.5 years of Obusha and frankly, he pretty much has a doofus rating. As an independent, I can only make the most likely choice, I can't know if I'm going to be right. As an independent, I don't choose along party lines but by what I think I see in the character of the candidate. I'd like to say I'm often right, but in the end, most of them let me down.



BACotner said:
The fact that you call President Bush a "doofus" calls into doubt your "independent" status. While he may not have had the oratory skills of Mr. Obama, he was far from being a "doofus".
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pbrauer said:
NBC/WSJ Poll: Romney Has Zero Percent Support From African Americans « Alan Colmes' Liberaland

Make that 94% for President Obama to 0% for Mitt Romney. That’s not the only place where Romney falls.


Looking inside the numbers, Obama continues to lead Romney among key parts of his political base, including African Americans (94 percent to 0 percent), Latinos (by a 2-to-1 margin), voters under 35-years-old (52 percent to 41 percent) and women (51 percent to 41 percent)​
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With a +/- 3.1% margin of error, it’s actually possible that Romney has negative support from African Americans.
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African American Unemployment is 14.4% under Obama

African American Youth Unemployment is at 40-50% under Obama
 
Conservative said:
That is a good question, the numbers certainly don't warrant the support nor does History. I think the African American community is easily led around by those chains of the Democrat Party by people who benefit greatly economically from the Democrat Party. It was Republicans that furthered their cause such as ending slavery and granting civil rights but that has been distorted and ignored by the African American "Leaders"
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I didn't know Lyndon Johnson was a Republican. You learn something new every day!

Yes, those poor 'negroes', being easiy led by those craft Democrats. Must be because they just aren't as smart or sophisticated as those white folks, huh?:lamo
 
Conservative said:
That is a good question, the numbers certainly don't warrant the support nor does History. I think the African American community is easily led around by those chains of the Democrat Party by people who benefit greatly economically from the Democrat Party.
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So, you think the African American community is nothing more than a bunch of freeloaders? Well done Con, well done.

It was Republicans that furthered their cause such as ending slavery and granting civil rights but that has been distorted and ignored by the African American "Leaders"
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Yes, but the Republicans were once a progressive party, but since have lost their compassion by folks like you expressed above opinion.
 
Wiggen said:
Yeah, but that was before the Republican party went nuts and adopted the 'Let's corner the market on the angry, scared white folks vote', and all those southern democrats decided to become republicans.

The Ward Report: Tappin' out the code - The GOP and the Southern Strategy
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Myth and Lies from the left

KKK? Started by Democrats

Lynching? Democrats

Jim Crow Laws? Democrats

Standing in front of segregated schools? Democrats

More Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats by a large margin. It never would have seen the light of day had it not been for Senator Dirkson.

Look at the state of the black family today. Blacks have been voting for Democrats now for decades and their community is in ruins. At some point enough of them are going to wake up from Hope and Change stupor of divisive rhetoric that the left has trapped them in all these years, embrace economic freedom, and then they can start to rebuild their communities and families with dignity.

ZoNation with Alfonzo Rachel: The Democratic Party's Long History of Racism - YouTube
 
pbrauer said:
So, you think the African American community is nothing more than a bunch of freeloaders? Well done Con, well done.


Yes, but the Republicans were once a progressive party, but since have lost their compassion by folks like you expressed above opinion.
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If they vote for Obama with the high unemployment and poor economic results in the African American community then yes, they are indeed just that.

Compassion to a liberal is throwing money at the problem whereas compassion to a conservative is compassionate results.
 
iliveonramen said:
Put down Glenn Becks history book and pick up a real one! It was a Democratically Controlled Congress and President that passed the Civil Rights Act!
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You're kidding right?
 
Bronson said:
Myth and Lies from the left

KKK? Started by Democrats

Lynching? Democrats

Jim Crow Laws? Democrats

Standing in front of segregated schools? Democrats

More Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats by a large margin. It never would have seen the light of day had it not been for Senator Dirkson.

Look at the state of the black family today. Blacks have been voting for Democrats now for decades and their community is in ruins. At some point enough of them are going to wake up from Hope and Change stupor of divisive rhetoric that the left has trapped them in all these years, embrace economic freedom, and then they can start to rebuild their communities and families with dignity.

ZoNation with Alfonzo Rachel: The Democratic Party's Long History of Racism - YouTube
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All true. The fact that the democrat party today is the party of most blacks and elected America's first black POTUS I can only attribute to a type of divine justice. I imagine believers in heaven today who were racist democrats when they where on the earth, with remorse and contrition beg our merciful God to let blacks have equality in America and allow the formerly racist democrat party be the vehicle. Of course, I don't know this to be the case, just what I imagine could be happening.

Interesting factiod: 17th century abolitionist Frederick Douglas was the first black American to have his named entered into consideration as a party nominee for POTUS. First in 1848 for the Liberty Party, which seemed more symbolic more than anything else since he was only 30 at the time age below the constitutional required age of 35. Then again his name was introduced in 1888 for the Republican Party nominee. This was before primary elections and the party leadership just got together and picked their ticket.
 
Bronson said:
Myth and Lies from the left

KKK? Started by Democrats

Lynching? Democrats

Jim Crow Laws? Democrats

Standing in front of segregated schools? Democrats
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Southern Democrats.


More Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats by a large margin. It never would have seen the light of day had it not been for Senator Dirkson.
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Not true by actual numbers. (don't pull that % of party BS)

Please vote in the following poll. :mrgreen:

pbrauer said:
In May John Stossel of Fox called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights Act

Do you agree or disagree?

Stossel calls for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights Act | Media Matters for America
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