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Former Obama Campaign Co-Chair Blasts Biden on Race-Baiting [W:24]

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From CNN:

Artur Davis, who is black, may be best known for seconding Obama's nomination at the Democratic National Convention in 2008, when he served as an Obama campaign co-chairman. Davis said he had hoped Obama's presidency would make a huge dent in race relations, as well as move the Democratic Party further to the center....

In 2010, Davis made an unsuccessful bid for governor of Alabama. In May he announced he was switching to the GOP, leaving the door open to a future political bid as a Republican...

A Romney campaign aide confirms to CNN that Artur Davis will stump for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee in the battleground state of Virginia...
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And from the man himself:

Bill Clinton got the first dose of the treatment, when he protested that Obama’s credentials as an anti-war stalwart were “the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.” That comment was then shape-shifted from a hard political jab at Obama’s rhetorical dodges on the Iraq War to an insinuation that the notion that Obama could win the presidency was wishful fantasy. No dispassionate observer who saw the video and heard Clinton in full cry would have arrived at the seamier interpretation, but with the nudging of Axelrod and Co., and with a little help from South Carolina’s congressman Jim Clyburn, the idea that Clinton meant much worse took hold.

The punch that Clinton absorbed was uncocked repeatedly. Sometimes on defense — when the Jeremiah Wright tapes surfaced, for example, the reasonable question of what drew Obama to a church with a history of incendiary rhetoric was cleverly converted to a teaching moment about an older generation’s fixation with race. When questions about the link between Obama and his old neighbor and fundraiser William Ayers started to burn, the line of inquiry was brushed off as an indirect method of raising fears about black radicalism, and it soon faded...

The transcendent moment of Obama’s triumph can’t be diminished. But one would have to be blinkered to deny that Obama’s race in 2008 likely empowered him much more than it weakened him — or to assume that Obama’s strategists and their acolytes in the press don’t recognize the power of recapturing race as both an offensive and a defensive weapon.

Enter Joe Biden in Danville, Va., on Tuesday, before a crowd with a large African-American presence. In forced colloquialisms, the vice president warned the audience that Republicans would “put y’all back in chains.” In the hours since, Obama has scratched hard to find a different subtext to his statement, but their mincing of words has only added insult to injury: Every African American in the room knew full well whom “y’all” referred to, and what chains meant — it’s one of the clearest codes in racial politics in the black community and has been for a while. At worst, the word “chains” signifies a retreat to a society where a person’s skin color amounted to a prison. At the least, the word bluntly and outrageously equates ordinary conservatism with racial viciousness...
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A prime example of trying to find an allusion to race when there isn't one.
 
Your Star said:
A prime example of trying to find an allusion to race when there isn't one.
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yeah. looking at a group of black people and telling them that someone is going to put them "back in chains" is in no way connected to race or slavery. nope, no sir, none at all.


now, mind you, if he'd talked about owning a pickup truck, well, that would have been an obvious dog whistle.
 
cpwill said:
yeah. looking at a group of black people and telling them that someone is going to put them "back in chains" is in no way connected to race or slavery. nope, no sir, none at all.


now, mind you, if he'd talked about owning a pickup truck, well, that would have been an obvious dog whistle.
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I heard that speech, and I didn't think about race at all. It was only until people started talking about it. All I can say is let's please grow up, and stop talking about these unimportant things.
 
Your Star said:
I heard that speech, and I didn't think about race at all. It was only until people started talking about it. All I can say is let's please grow up, and stop talking about these unimportant things.
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The Vice President is a nutter moron who is one heartbeat away from becoming the most powerful person in the world. I'd say that's about a serious issue.
 
Your Star said:
I heard that speech, and I didn't think about race at all. It was only until people started talking about it. All I can say is let's please grow up, and stop talking about these unimportant things.
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I heard a Pennsylvanian embarrass himself by trying to sound like a southener.
 
A "former Obmama campaign Co-Chair" and Jessie Jackson's daughter? That's what you guys have? :lamo

Holy **** the right is SOOOO desperate right now it's hilarious. :lamo
 
American said:
I heard a Pennsylvanian embarrass himself by trying to sound like a southener.
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Hey you have something in common with them, you embarrass yourself everyday when you post :lamo
 
I wonder why they didn't bother to emphasise this little bit from CNN quote in the OP

A Romney campaign aide confirms to CNN that Artur Davis will stump for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee in the battleground state of Virginia...
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and like the other so-called "Fox Liberals" we get a nice talking point for the righties to rant about.
 
I haven't heard anybody in the political realm say that Biden didn't screw up when he made his chains comment. Some people have come out like rabid dogs, foaming at the mouth to dig into Biden as if he'd never made a gaff before. Others more pragmatically pointed out that what he said was tacky and in poor taste. Still others (myself included) shook our heads and laughed at the idiocy of making such a statement, but simultaneously realized that it is yet another mole mill that will be made into a mountain by week's end.

What he said wasn't cool. But unemployment has plateaued, gas prices are back on the rise, food prices are about to go up again, the debt clock is spinning upwards like crazy, the government is apparently hoarding mass amounts of ammunition within most departments, we've had a rash of crazies/disgruntled assholes using violence to vent their frustrations/tame their demons, the middle east is a mess, some of south America is unstable, Europe is teetering, and we have an election in a few short months that could make all of those things better....or worse.

So why the hell do we keep falling for the idiot pundits and focusing on the absolute nonsense of the day instead of focusing on issues? Why do we have 10+ threads discussing Romney's behavior almost 40 years ago and 50+ posts demanding Obama's college transcripts? None of this crap matters.

Move on, already. Let's get back to what matters.
 
This is really a distraction from really going on with the PA Judge upholding the Voter ID law.
 
TheNextEra said:
A "former Obmama campaign Co-Chair" and Jessie Jackson's daughter? That's what you guys have? :lamo

Holy **** the right is SOOOO desperate right now it's hilarious. :lamo
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We're desperate?

We didn't say those things, they did.
 
Grim17 said:
We're desperate?

We didn't say those things, they did.
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YOU'RE the ones making a big deal out of it though. Big difference.

As I said before, WHO CARES? A "former Obama campaign Co-Chair" and Jessie Jackson's daughter means ****. Yes, a small minority of people were outraged. Other than that, people recognize it for what it is, stupiditiy on Biden's part. However, this isn't worth anything in terms of what the election is SUPPOSED to be based on.

The whole college transcripts, tax returns, etc are all just idiotic distractions because BOTH candidates have policies that will HURT America and that's what they don't want to focus on.
 
Your Star said:
I heard that speech, and I didn't think about race at all. It was only until people started talking about it. All I can say is let's please grow up, and stop talking about these unimportant things.
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frankly, this indicates how stupid you are. His point was to reference slavery. that you didn't think of it shows you don't actually think.
 
cpwill said:
From CNN:



And from the man himself:
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Yup, Joe stepped on it again. Obvious he got caught up in the hurrahs and hoots and decided to become one of the people. :2razz:
 
ARealConservative said:
frankly, this indicates how stupid you are. His point was to reference slavery. that you didn't think of it shows you don't actually think.
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Nicely done and so gentlemanly - personal attack without thinking.


Now when I listened to the clip, first I heard the reference to "unchaining the banks", so for some odd reason the following statement about "chaining you up" - speaking of ordinary people - did not immediately bring to mind racial slavery but rather economic control of the citizenry. It does seem that some folks prefer to take their 'understanding' of opponents from the various talking heads to be found on a certain news channel and talk radio shows and not from any rational attempt at comprehension.
 
Somerville said:
Nicely done and so gentlemanly - personal attack without thinking.


Now when I listened to the clip, first I heard the reference to "unchaining the banks", so for some odd reason the following statement about "chaining you up" - speaking of ordinary people - did not immediately bring to mind racial slavery but rather economic control of the citizenry. It does seem that some folks prefer to take their 'understanding' of opponents from the various talking heads to be found on a certain news channel and talk radio shows and not from any rational attempt at comprehension.
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He was speaking to a group of people who are predominantly african american. That kind of matters.
 
tessaesque said:
He was speaking to a group of people who are predominantly african american. That kind of matters.
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Is 50-50, "predominately African American"?


So you're avoiding the reference to banks made just before the "chaining y'all" statement - because...?
 
Somerville said:
Is 50-50, "predominately African American"?


So you're avoiding the reference to banks made just before the "chaining y'all" statement - because...?
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I'm not ignoring it. It doesn't negate the contextually inappropriate phrasing he used in his next statement.

I'm not saying we need to make this a long-standing issue. But I think it's a little bit dishonest to act as if he didn't say something racially insensitive based on his audience.

Here's what he said:
Romney wants to, he said in the first 100 days, he’s gonna let the big banks again write their own rules.”Unchain Wall Street!” They’re going to put you all back in chains.
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When he says "back in chains" what do you think he's referring to, exactly? When were white people ever largely known to have been chained up in American history? We largely ignore indentured servitude, and even that wasn't true slavery because it had time limits established.

All I'm saying is be honest, dude. The statement was address to the AA crowd and was insensitive and unfortunate.
 
He said "ya'll". Good ole colloquialism.

But no, no, no, Biden slipped into southern accent and told a bunch of African Americans that Republicans were going to put them back in chains because he was actually making a deeply nuanced (so nuanced that no one has yet figured out what it actually meant) point about the potential repeal of the Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act.
 
Biden was fear-mongering and playing the race-card to do it. However, let's be quite honest here. Biden isn't the first politician to use fear-mongering tactics and both sides do it.

It's stupid, yes, but some of the reactions to this by people have been full on drama-queen.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Some people need to calm it down a bit or be removed from the thread. Carry on.
 
TheNextEra said:
Biden was fear-mongering and playing the race-card to do it. However, let's be quite honest here. Biden isn't the first politician to use fear-mongering tactics and both sides do it.

It's stupid, yes, but some of the reactions to this by people have been full on drama-queen.
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When Biden made that chain gaffe, he was reading off the teleprompter. IT was orchestrated. Biden was not ad lib. It was written for him, not by him.:peacebiden.jpg
 
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