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Mitt Romney: I’m Running With Paul Ryan, But Not On The Ryan Budget

CONSagainROMNEY said:
And that's not going to happen with Romney. Please give me ONE specific example of cutting government spending that Romney will bring? He is a liberal in Republican clothings pal - how can anyone be so blind as to not see that??? The budget in Mass while he was goveror went up 25% in the five years that he was there! And on top of that he is moving the Party farther to the left than it has ever been. He is going to ruin the party.
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I find it entirely possible that with him as President we can have this:

House Republicans have proposed cutting or eliminating dozens of government programs as part of a plan they say will save up to $74 billion, kicking off what is sure to be a vigorous debate on Capitol Hill over what to keep and what to slash.
House GOP Targets Dozens of Government Programs With Spending Cut Plan | Fox News
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Mycroft said:
I find it entirely possible that with him as President we can have this:
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I'm pretty much in favor of most of these cuts, but WHERE has RINO Romney said that he would support ANY of these suggested cuts?
The man has NO BALLS!!! He will not stand up and give ANY details about anything he plans to do - and that is because he has no plans other than he plans to do whatever is best POLlTICALLY for him at any given moment - he is this year's John Kerry and Americans will see right through his BS - especially during the debates when he will be pressed for details and will be able to do noting but spitball tired old slogans and rah-rah-rah nonsense...
 
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CONSagainROMNEY said:
I'm pretty much in favor of most of these cuts, but WHERE has RINO Romney said that he would support ANY of these suggested cuts?
The man has NO BALLS!!! He will not stand up and give ANY details about anything he plans to do - and that is because he has no plans other than he plans to do whatever is best POLlTICALLY for him at any given moment - he is this year's John Kerry and Americans will see right through his BS - especially during the debates when he will be pressed for details and will be able to do noting but spitball tired old slogans and rah-rah-rah nonsense...
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LOL!!

During the upcoming debates, his "tired old slogans and rah-rah-rah nonsense" will STILL be better than Obama's failed results.
 
Mycroft said:
LOL!!

During the upcoming debates, his "tired old slogans and rah-rah-rah nonsense" will STILL be better than Obama's failed results.
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What irrelevent statement based on absolutely nothing...do you have anything to say ? any facts ? anything smirk
 
CONSagainROMNEY said:
And that's not going to happen with Romney. Please give me ONE specific example of cutting government spending that Romney will bring? He is a liberal in Republican clothings pal - how can anyone be so blind as to not see that??? The budget in Mass while he was goveror went up 25% in the five years that he was there! And on top of that he is moving the Party farther to the left than it has ever been. He is going to ruin the party.
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I love how you can predict the future, I know you have no love for Romney, so you criticize him at every opportunity. He picks Ryan as VP who is a facial hawk, he ran a very successful business, which would not be successful without controlling cost. He turned around the Utah Olympics, which would not be successful without controlling cost, and he was a governor.

Then you go on to say he will ruin the party, how about Obama ruining this county, that's what I care about.
 
Born Free said:
I love how you can predict the future, I know you have no love for Romney, so you criticize him at every opportunity. He picks Ryan as VP who is a facial hawk, he ran a very successful business, which would not be successful without controlling cost. He turned around the Utah Olympics, which would not be successful without controlling cost, and he was a governor.

Then you go on to say he will ruin the party, how about Obama ruining this county, that's what I care about.
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Yes, he was a governor that increased the budget by 25% in 5 years. Yes, he was a businessman that profited from Vulture Capitalism that outsourced jobs, destroyed hard working American's retirements and health care and dreams. But my main beef with him is that he has no character. No integrity. He is spineless. A flip flopper, the worst possible politcal hack that the Republicans could have picked to represent their party. Years from now, we will look back and view him as the worst mistake the Republican Party has ever made - that is IF the Republican Party can survive this fool's nonsense.

Mycroft said:
LOL!!

During the upcoming debates, his "tired old slogans and rah-rah-rah nonsense" will STILL be better than Obama's failed results.
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Obama's failed results won't ruin the Republican Party. RINO Romney's Liberal in a Republican's suits lameness will...
 
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lpast said:
What irrelevent statement based on absolutely nothing...do you have anything to say ? any facts ? anything smirk
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It's not irrelevant at all. I was responding to another member's post in which he mentioned the debates.

Are you still whining about my contention that you are as irrelevant as that 71 year old idiot? Move on, dude.
 
Mycroft said:
It's not irrelevant at all. I was responding to another member's post in which he mentioned the debates.

Are you still whining about my contention that you are as irrelevant as that 71 year old idiot? Move on, dude.
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Not at all...I dont whine.....seems you are though
 
Outsourced jobs? No, that was done after Romney left and done only out of extensive tax burdens which makes American business lackluster at best. No integrity or character? You tell me how a minister, business guru, and potential President of the United States has no integrity or character. And is he really a mistake? At a time when the economy is the central focus of politics, having the republican party pick a man who has had enormous success in the private sector as well as having had success straightening out his states economy as governor is a mistake? It seems to me like a perfect fit. How can you call yourself a conservative when you're bashing Romney; are you voting for Obama? If so you're no conservative and you are in fact a "flip flopper". If you are voting for Romney then you're hurting his cause and being idiotic in the process. And if you're voting third party then you're pretty much voting for Obama which brings me back to the "flip flopper" comment. Seems to me like you're the one with no integrity or character buddy.
 
CONSagainROMNEY said:
Obama's failed results won't ruin the Republican Party. RINO Romney's Liberal in a Republican's suits lameness will...
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You know what? You go ahead and worry about the Republican Party being ruined. I don't care, as long as they do what they say they will...reduce government. THAT'S what I'm concerned about and that's why Romney needs to be elected.
 
Where is Romney's budget plan, I can't seem to find it anywhere.
 
Last night, newly ensconced Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan sat down for his first solo interview with Fox News' Brit Hume and let slip an admission about Mitt Romney's budget plan -- an admission that's receiving surprisingly little press attention. Asked by Hume when the Romney plan would balance the budget, Ryan said he didn't know because "we haven't run the numbers on that specific plan."

[video]http://mediamatters.org/embed/static/clips/2012/08/15/25986/fnc-sr-20120814-ryanbudget[/video]

Thus far only a few media outlets have noted Ryan's comments. They include MSNBC's Morning Joe, which aired the clip three times, prompting Mika Brzezinski to quip that she hates it when people "don't run the numbers on the budget they propose." CNN aired a clip of them last night on Anderson Cooper 360, and this morning on Starting Point host Soledad O'Brien said of Ryan's remarks: "He doesn't want to get wonky because he hasn't run the numbers because the plan is very vague."

But there's been no print coverage, and no coverage on network news. Ryan's comments really should be getting more attention, for a number of reasons.

First, Mitt Romney has been going around telling everyone that, if elected, he intends to balance the federal budget by the end of his second term, or shortly thereafter. Ryan says that they don't know when Romney's plan will balance the budget. If Ryan is right, then what is Romney basing that claim on?

Second, the narrative that Ryan has cultivated among the press is that he's a budget wonk who understands fiscal issues and is allergic to deficits (this despite having voted for all the Bush-era policies that saddled us with high debt and ballooning deficits). Embracing the Romney budget and then saying that he doesn't know when it will balance because the campaign "hasn't run the numbers" runs counter to his reputation as a Serious Fiscal Hawk.

Third, as Ezra Klein of the Washington Post detailed yesterday, the Romney campaign's rhetoric about their budget goals butts up hard against fiscal realities. The campaign argues that their budget will cut spending to 20 percent of GDP by 2016. That's unlikely enough, but they've also announced that cuts to Medicare are off the table. As Klein put it, Romney's stated goal of balancing the budget in 8-10 years is "a fantasy, and it will never happen." Ryan's remarks yesterday would seem to confirm that.

Fourth, how can you claim to have a budget and also to have not "run the numbers?" Isn't that all a budget is? Numbers that have been run?

The bottom line is that, by Ryan's admission, the Romney campaign is promoting a budget plan despite not knowing what it actually accomplishes. If that's not grist for the media grinder, then what is?


"We Haven't Run The Numbers:" A Startling Ryan Admission That's Getting Little Attention | Blog | Media Matters for America
 
Mycroft said:
You know what? You go ahead and worry about the Republican Party being ruined. I don't care, as long as they do what they say they will...reduce government. THAT'S what I'm concerned about and that's why Romney needs to be elected.
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You are living on Neverland if you think a Romney administration would reduce government. As governor of Mass he increased government spending by 25% in just five years!
 
Romney declines to say where he disagrees with Ryan on the budget | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

"The items that we agree on, I think, outweigh any differences there may be," Romney added. "We haven't gone through piece by piece, and said, 'Oh, here's a place where there's a difference. I can't imagine any two people even in the same party who have exactly all the same positions on all issues."

Speaking specifically about Medicare—an issue that could put Romney's efforts to win voters here at risk—Romney said his plan is similar to Ryan's—and insisted current and near retirees wouldn't be impacted. But he said it was crucial to undertake entitlement reform so the country could deliver on "promises" it has made to future generations.

"The truth is we simply cannot simply continue to pretend like a Medicare on track to go bankrupt at some point is acceptable. We must take action to make sure that we can save Medicare for coming generations," Romney said. "And this president's been in office for three-and-a-half years and hasn't been willing to make any proposals to make sure and save Medicare other than to put in place an unelected board which will tell people what kind of treatments they can have."
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Gee look, a VP and President that dont agree on everything...news at 11? or something.
 
CONSagainROMNEY said:
You are living on Neverland if you think a Romney administration would reduce government. As governor of Mass he increased government spending by 25% in just five years!
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Romney will work with the Congressional Republicans. That's a given...unless you think he'll go his own way and tell them "FU". I don't.
 
Mycroft said:
Romney will work with the Congressional Republicans. That's a given...unless you think he'll go his own way and tell them "FU". I don't.
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He's a liberal in Republican's clothing - he'll do what ever the popular winds call on him to do. He will play it safe and will not try to push anything conservative through Congress. He will accomplish nothing. He has no balls. He doesnt even have the balls to show the AMerican voting public his own tax records! Do you really think he will have the balls to push anything through COngress - especially if the Dems control both houses - which is higly posible???
 
CONSagainROMNEY said:
He's a liberal in Republican's clothing - he'll do what ever the popular winds call on him to do. He will play it safe and will not try to push anything conservative through Congress. He will accomplish nothing. He has no balls. He doesnt even have the balls to show the AMerican voting public his own tax records! Do you really think he will have the balls to push anything through COngress - especially if the Dems control both houses - which is higly posible???
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Since he's smart enough not to play into the Democrat's hands during this campaign season by not submitting to their ridiculous demands, I suspect you are wrong about him. Furthermore, you are wrong that it's possible that the Democrats will control both branches of Congress.
 
CONSagainROMNEY said:
He's a liberal in Republican's clothing - he'll do what ever the popular winds call on him to do. He will play it safe and will not try to push anything conservative through Congress. He will accomplish nothing. He has no balls. He doesnt even have the balls to show the AMerican voting public his own tax records! Do you really think he will have the balls to push anything through COngress - especially if the Dems control both houses - which is higly posible???
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Actually, he's a conservative in sheeps clothing.
 
Moot said:
Actually, he's a conservative in sheeps clothing.
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Romney is NOT a conservative. Please do not insult true conservatives by saying such!

Mycroft said:
Since he's smart enough not to play into the Democrat's hands during this campaign season by not submitting to their ridiculous demands, I suspect you are wrong about him.
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Yea brilliant move -letting the Dems disrail any debate about the economy over something as basic as releasing one's tax returns. Just brilliant!
 
CONSagainROMNEY said:
Romney is NOT a conservative. Please do not insult true conservatives by saying such!
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Baaa, Romney is a conservative. Don't try to pawn him off on Liberals, take some personal responsibility and admit it, he's one of you.
 
Moot said:
Baaa, Romney is a conservative. Don't try to pawn him off on Liberals, take some personal responsibility and admit it, he's one of you.
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He is not one of me. I am a true Conservative. I would never have raised Mass budget by 25% over 5 years had I been governor - like RINO ROmney did. I mean the man has not proposed ONE specific cut he would make if her were POTUS. How anyone could be duped into thinking that he is a COnservative is rediculas!
 
CONSagainROMNEY said:
Romney is NOT a conservative. Please do not insult true conservatives by saying such!



Yea brilliant move -letting the Dems disrail any debate about the economy over something as basic as releasing one's tax returns. Just brilliant!
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I see...so now it's ROMNEY'S fault the Democrats don't want to talk about their record.
 

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Moot said:
Baaa, Romney is a conservative. Don't try to pawn him off on Liberals, take some personal responsibility and admit it, he's one of you.
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Both of you are wrong, because both of you are assuming that Romney has an ideological core.
 
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