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Romney Wants His Record at Bain Capital Off the Table

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*** This is business not personal: Romney also said in the interview he would like a pledge (of sorts) with Obama that there be no “personal” attack ads. “[O]ur campaign would be-- helped immensely if we had an agreement between both campaigns that we were only going to talk about issues and that attacks based upon-- business or family or taxes or things of that nature.” (Question: Is Romney really saying that scrutinizing his business record -- which he has held up as one of his chief qualifications to be president -- is personal? But we digress...) He continued: “[W]e only talk about issues. And we can talk about the differences between our positions and our opponent's position.” Romney said of his own campaign: “[O]ur ads haven't gone after the president personally. … [W]e haven't dredged up the old stuff that people talked about last time around. We haven't gone after the personal things.” That doesn’t mean surrogates or Super PACs have, as was brought up to him. Bottom line, obviously, this negative stuff is getting to Romney or he wouldn’t have said this. Campaigns that are winning never complain about the tone of the campaign (although Obama certainly laments “crazy” things outside groups say – more on that below.). There will be more on this from Romney on MSNBC’s The Daily Rundown. Did he just offer the Obama campaign an official pledge? See for yourself.
First Thoughts: It's not an even race - Obama's ahead - First Read

First of all, I do not remember ever seeing a candidate running for the President of the United States openly ask that they want part of their background, especially one that is a key reason why they ought to be elected in the first place, to be exempt from critiques from the opposing campaign. It is also a clear admission on Governor Romney's part that the attacks against his business record are having an effect on his campaign.

The next problem I see for the Romney campaign is that taking this stance is giving him little to talk about to help define himself as a candidate. The past few days showed he cannot mention his time as Governor of Massachusetts because the conversation always returns to the health care bill he passed, which leaves the really conservative wing of the Republican Party angry. And now he is having trouble talking about his time at Bain because the Obama campaign and allies are making that a toxic subject.

In the grand scheme of things what this is leading to is the Romney campaign is allowing his opponents to paint a picture of what Romney stands for as a candidate at a time when people nationally still do not know much about him. Instead of being framing himself as a smart businessman Democrats are turning him into a real life version of Gordon Gekko. If he does not win the election in November his failure or unwillingness to define his candidacy will be what lost him the election.
 
The reason Obama has to run his campaign this way is because Obama cannot talk about his first term. When is the last time you hear Obama say stimulus or talk about Obamacare? This is a race where the incumbent has a terrible record and needs to portray his opponent as even worse for the country. The biggest issue among voters is jobs and the economy. That is the issue that voters say is the most important. Who wins in that area? It appears the new kids on the block have a nice sounding plan. The incumbent is sitting at 8.3% unemployment with gas prices skyrocketing again. At the end of the day Romneys tax returns, Romneycare, and Bain do not matter as much as the pain Americans are suffering today. Romney is the one talking about the economy while Obama is talking about Bain. He is in a good position because the #1 issue on the table for voters is one of many things Obama has a terrible record on. In his first campaign he had no record, now he does. Hope and change and all the hype around a "breath of fresh air" type of candidate is gone.
 
The reason Obama has to run his campaign this way is because Obama cannot talk about his first term.

Pathetic Fox News talking point. Meaningless.

You mean this first term:

1. Passed Health Care Reform: After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010). It will cover 32 million uninsured Americans beginning in 2014 and mandates a suite of experimental measures to cut health care cost growth, the number one cause of America’s long-term fiscal problems.

2. Passed the Stimulus: Signed $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 to spur economic growth amid greatest recession since the Great Depression. Weeks after stimulus went into effect, unemployment claims began to subside. Twelve months later, the private sector began producing more jobs than it was losing, and it has continued to do so for twenty-three straight months, creating a total of nearly 3.7 million new private-sector jobs.

3. Passed Wall Street Reform: Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2010) to re-regulate the financial sector after its practices caused the Great Recession. The new law tightens capital requirements on large banks and other financial institutions, requires derivatives to be sold on clearinghouses and exchanges, mandates that large banks provide “living wills” to avoid chaotic bankruptcies, limits their ability to trade with customers’ money for their own profit, and creates the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (now headed by Richard Cordray) to crack down on abusive lending products and companies.

4. Ended the War in Iraq: Ordered all U.S. military forces out of the country. Last troops left on December 18, 2011.

5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan: From a peak of 101,000 troops in June 2011, U.S. forces are now down to 91,000, with 23,000 slated to leave by the end of summer 2012. According to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the combat mission there will be over by next year.

6. Eliminated Osama bin laden: In 2011, ordered special forces raid of secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in which the terrorist leader was killed and a trove of al-Qaeda documents was discovered.

7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry: In 2009, injected $62 billion in federal money (on top of $13.4 billion in loans from the Bush administration) into ailing GM and Chrysler in return for equity stakes and agreements for massive restructuring. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades. The government expects to lose $16 billion of its investment, less if the price of the GM stock it still owns increases.

8. Recapitalized Banks: In the midst of financial crisis, approved controversial Treasury Department plan to lure private capital into the country’s largest banks via “stress tests” of their balance sheets and a public-private fund to buy their “toxic” assets. Got banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government.

9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”: Ended 1990s-era restriction and formalized new policy allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military for the first time.

10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi: In March 2011, joined a coalition of European and Arab governments in military action, including air power and naval blockade, against Gaddafi regime to defend Libyan civilians and support rebel troops. Gaddafi’s forty-two-year rule ended when the dictator was overthrown and killed by rebels on October 20, 2011. No American lives were lost.

11. Told Mubarak to Go: On February 1, 2011, publicly called on Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to accept reform or step down, thus weakening the dictator’s position and putting America on the right side of the Arab Spring. Mubarak ended thirty-year rule when overthrown on February 11.

12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies: Two days after taking office, nullified Bush-era rulings that had allowed detainees in U.S. custody to undergo certain “enhanced” interrogation techniques considered inhumane under the Geneva Conventions. Also released the secret Bush legal rulings supporting the use of these techniques.

13. Improved America’s Image Abroad: With new policies, diplomacy, and rhetoric, reversed a sharp decline in world opinion toward the U.S. (and the corresponding loss of “soft power”) during the Bush years. From 2008 to 2011, favorable opinion toward the United States rose in ten of fifteen countries surveyed by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, with an average increase of 26 percent.

14. Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Spending: As part of the 2010 health care reform bill, signed measure ending the wasteful decades-old practice of subsidizing banks to provide college loans. Starting July 2010 all students began getting their federal student loans directly from the federal government. Treasury will save $67 billion over ten years, $36 billion of which will go to expanding Pell Grants to lower-income students.

15. Created Race to the Top: With funds from stimulus, started $4.35 billion program of competitive grants to encourage and reward states for education reform.

16. Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards: Released new fuel efficiency standards in 2011 that will nearly double the fuel economy for cars and trucks by 2025.

17. Coordinated International Response to Financial Crisis: To keep world economy out of recession in 2009 and 2010, helped secure from G-20 nations more than $500 billion for the IMF to provide lines of credit and other support to emerging market countries, which kept them liquid and avoided crises with their currencies.

18. Passed Mini Stimuli: To help families hurt by the recession and spur the economy as stimulus spending declined, signed series of measures (July 22, 2010; December 17, 2010; December 23, 2011) to extend unemployment insurance and cut payroll taxes.

19. Began Asia “Pivot”: In 2011, reoriented American military and diplomatic priorities and focus from the Middle East and Europe to the Asian-Pacific region. Executed multipronged strategy of positively engaging China while reasserting U.S. leadership in the region by increasing American military presence and crafting new commercial, diplomatic, and military alliances with neighboring countries made uncomfortable by recent Chinese behavior.

20. Increased Support for Veterans: With so many soldiers coming home from Iraq and Iran with serious physical and mental health problems, yet facing long waits for services, increased 2010 Department of Veterans Affairs budget by 16 percent and 2011 budget by 10 percent. Also signed new GI bill offering $78 billion in tuition assistance over a decade, and provided multiple tax credits to encourage businesses to hire veterans.

21. Tightened Sanctions on Iran: In effort to deter Iran’s nuclear program, signed Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act (2010) to punish firms and individuals who aid Iran’s petroleum sector. In late 2011 and early 2012, coordinated with other major Western powers to impose sanctions aimed at Iran’s banks and with Japan, South Korea, and China to shift their oil purchases away from Iran.
 
Religious cult leader Gordon Gekko vs anti-white racist hard leftist Obama. (both equally globalist)

Who to chose, which is the least evil of 2 evils? Gosh I just can't make up my mind.
 
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So Romney. When running for election anything from your past is open and on the table.
 
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Pathetic Fox News talking point. Meaningless.

You mean this first term:

It's not a talking point just look at his ad's and what he says in speeches. His campaign strategy is to talk about Mitt in hopes that people will fear what he has to offer. Distort and distract from the miserable economy and high gas prices. Lets compare his campaign speeches in 2008 to his accomplishments in his first term. Gitmo still open? Unemployment still above 8%? Deficit not cut in half? The most important issue for voters this year, the economy, which he is not talking about. I dont blame him. How could a sitting president with 8% UE want to talk about that? I've said this many other times but its still true. Voters don't care about bain capital they care about jobs and the economy.

Heck, lets talk about bain capital. It was a successful company that made Mitt a wealthy man. He made profits from buying and selling companies. Did some of them go under? Heck ya its the free market. Did he come in and clean out all assets for profit, laying off workers in the process? Heck yes he did in some cases. That was his job. But then there are companies like Staples and the sports authority which continue to hire workers today. The more I talk about it, the better it sounds. He needs to do the same thing to the federal government. Strip it down, make it lean but efficient, and stop spending China's money.
 
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First Thoughts: It's not an even race - Obama's ahead - First Read

First of all, I do not remember ever seeing a candidate running for the President of the United States openly ask that they want part of their background, especially one that is a key reason why they ought to be elected in the first place, to be exempt from critiques from the opposing campaign. It is also a clear admission on Governor Romney's part that the attacks against his business record are having an effect on his campaign.

The next problem I see for the Romney campaign is that taking this stance is giving him little to talk about to help define himself as a candidate. The past few days showed he cannot mention his time as Governor of Massachusetts because the conversation always returns to the health care bill he passed, which leaves the really conservative wing of the Republican Party angry. And now he is having trouble talking about his time at Bain because the Obama campaign and allies are making that a toxic subject.

In the grand scheme of things what this is leading to is the Romney campaign is allowing his opponents to paint a picture of what Romney stands for as a candidate at a time when people nationally still do not know much about him. Instead of framing himself as a smart businessman, Democrats are turning him into a real life version of Gordon Gekko. If he does not win the election in November his failure or unwillingness to define his candidacy will be what lost him the election.

The reason Obama has to run his campaign this way is because Obama cannot talk about his first term. When is the last time you hear Obama say stimulus or talk about Obamacare? This is a race where the incumbent has a terrible record and needs to portray his opponent as even worse for the country. The biggest issue among voters is jobs and the economy. That is the issue that voters say is the most important. Who wins in that area? It appears the new kids on the block have a nice sounding plan. The incumbent is sitting at 8.3% unemployment with gas prices skyrocketing again. At the end of the day Romneys tax returns, Romneycare, and Bain do not matter as much as the pain Americans are suffering today. Romney is the one talking about the economy while Obama is talking about Bain. He is in a good position because the #1 issue on the table for voters is one of many things Obama has a terrible record on. In his first campaign he had no record, now he does. Hope and change and all the hype around a "breath of fresh air" type of candidate is gone.

Spaceman_Spiff hit the nail squarely on the head. Team Obama has done a masterful job of painting Mitt Romney as out of touch w/Middle-Class Americans, elusive, cagey, uncaring, scripted, unconvicted on principle due to his many flip-flops on a wide range of issues, and dare I say bigoted (re: references such as "Anglo-Saxon" and "you people" tend to set such under tones). What I find most interesting pertaining to this sudden Mitt Romney following by Republicans is two-fold:

1) It's as if most Republicans didn't watch the GOP debates (or have chosen to completely ignore them). Gov. Perry, Rick Santorum, Ron Paul and Newt Gingrinch totally exposed him on so many levels.

2) Republicans were made to accept him as their candidate and now people are making all kinds of excuses to defend him not matter how ridiculous.

On Pres. Obama, I really don't see where people get this idea that he hasn't defended his record. He has! He's spoken out on the state of the economy and his efforts to create jobs. He's spoken out on health care and why it was so important to at least take what many view as a decent first-step to overhauling the system. No, it's not perfect, but as Justice Scalia even said during the Supreme Court oral arguments, Congress did have an alternative to fixing the problem - imposing a health care tax (i.e., converting the payroll tax into a health care tax) where everyone pays into the system. He has spoken out on immigration reform, tax reform, domestic energy initiatives, and a host of other things, but those on the Right act as if he's keeping mum on such issues or running away from them. Got new for you, he's not.

Frankly, I'm waiting for the presidential debates. It's going to be interesting...
 
First Thoughts: It's not an even race - Obama's ahead - First Read

First of all, I do not remember ever seeing a candidate running for the President of the United States openly ask that they want part of their background, especially one that is a key reason why they ought to be elected in the first place, to be exempt from critiques from the opposing campaign. It is also a clear admission on Governor Romney's part that the attacks against his business record are having an effect on his campaign.

The next problem I see for the Romney campaign is that taking this stance is giving him little to talk about to help define himself as a candidate. The past few days showed he cannot mention his time as Governor of Massachusetts because the conversation always returns to the health care bill he passed, which leaves the really conservative wing of the Republican Party angry. And now he is having trouble talking about his time at Bain because the Obama campaign and allies are making that a toxic subject.

In the grand scheme of things what this is leading to is the Romney campaign is allowing his opponents to paint a picture of what Romney stands for as a candidate at a time when people nationally still do not know much about him. Instead of being framing himself as a smart businessman Democrats are turning him into a real life version of Gordon Gekko. If he does not win the election in November his failure or unwillingness to define his candidacy will be what lost him the election.


I agree. By taking his record at Bain (as well as his tax returns) off the table leaves Romney with almost no material to define himself by. Basically he is left with his few years as a LIberal in Republicans clothing as governor of Mass. And then the last 5 years as a professional billionaire/POTUS candidate who is so out of touch with the everday American that he sounds like a 1950s B-movie charicature of political candidate.
Romney needs to redefine hmself and FAST. Maybe he thinks Paul Ryan will do that for him.
 
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I agree. By taking his record at Bain (as well as his tax returns) off the table leaves Romney with almost no material to define himself by. Basically he is left with his few years as a LIberal in Republicans clothing as governor of Mass. And then the last 5 years as a professional billionaire/POTUS candidate who is so out of touch with the everday American that he sounds like a 1950s B-movie charicature of political candidate.
Romney needs to redefine hmself and FAST. Maybe he thinks Paul Ryan will do that for him.

You know, Jon Stewart (the Daily Show) and Steven Colbert (the Colbert Report) have both hinted about Mitt Romney being a career POTUS candidate since 2000. I've often wondered what he gets for just running for public office time after time. :thinking
 
First Thoughts: It's not an even race - Obama's ahead - First Read

First of all, I do not remember ever seeing a candidate running for the President of the United States openly ask that they want part of their background, especially one that is a key reason why they ought to be elected in the first place, to be exempt from critiques from the opposing campaign. It is also a clear admission on Governor Romney's part that the attacks against his business record are having an effect on his campaign.

The next problem I see for the Romney campaign is that taking this stance is giving him little to talk about to help define himself as a candidate. The past few days showed he cannot mention his time as Governor of Massachusetts because the conversation always returns to the health care bill he passed, which leaves the really conservative wing of the Republican Party angry. And now he is having trouble talking about his time at Bain because the Obama campaign and allies are making that a toxic subject.

In the grand scheme of things what this is leading to is the Romney campaign is allowing his opponents to paint a picture of what Romney stands for as a candidate at a time when people nationally still do not know much about him. Instead of being framing himself as a smart businessman Democrats are turning him into a real life version of Gordon Gekko. If he does not win the election in November his failure or unwillingness to define his candidacy will be what lost him the election.

How can you say that when Romney has agreed not to put Rev. Wright on the table? And how can you say it's the first time you've seen this when the sitting president has done the very same thing with his college records?

We know a hell of a lot more about Romney than we know about Obama. Why do you think Obama doesn't want his college records released? It's because of the classes he took. How does a guy get to be President of the United States of America with two years of state legislator experience? I don't know. But having just Seen 2016: Obama's America? I have some ideas.
 
You know, Jon Stewart (the Daily Show) and Steven Colbert (the Colbert Report) have both hinted about Mitt Romney being a career POTUS candidate since 2000. I've often wondered what he gets for just running for public office time after time. :thinking

Its hard to say. There could be an element of redemtion for the failures of his father as a POTUS candidate- much like Bush 43's motivation. Also there is simply the element that there are very few people who are in a position to run for POTUS and he just happens to have the resources. So why not? Who wouldnt want to run the show and be the big honcho?
 
You know, Jon Stewart (the Daily Show) and Steven Colbert (the Colbert Report) have both hinted about Mitt Romney being a career POTUS candidate since 2000. I've often wondered what he gets for just running for public office time after time. :thinking

He'll get an honorable mention ribbon but no medal. Kind of like Rafalca.
 
How can you say that when Romney has agreed not to put Rev. Wright on the table?
President Obama never formally asked Governor Romney to shelve any attacks concerning Reverend Wright or any other thing from his past that conservatives like to obsess about. The difference is that Obama is a smart enough campaigner that he has made it politically unwise for conservatives to bring up Reverend Wright.

And how can you say it's the first time you've seen this when the sitting president has done the very same thing with his college records?
You are comparing apples and oranges. Let me know when Obama used his time studying at college as a major reason why he ought to be elected president like Romney has done with his time at Bain Capital.

A more apt comparison would be for Obama to declare his record as President off the table during the election.

We know a hell of a lot more about Romney than we know about Obama. Why do you think Obama doesn't want his college records released? It's because of the classes he took.
There is still plenty to be discussed about Governor Romney. His time in France as a Mormon mission, at BYU and Harvard Business School, and Bain Capital. There is plenty that has yet to be uncovered. Maybe we can delve even further into his family's past and look at their time at a polygamist camp in Mexico.:roll:

The reasons that Obama does not want his college records to be released are the same reasons that Romney does not want to release his taxes, college records, etc... Candidates deserve some privacy.

Since you have seen the President's college transcripts, what are the classes he took that is forcing him to keep his transcripts private?

How does a guy get to be President of the United States of America with two years of state legislator experience? I don't know. But having just Seen 2016: Obama's America? I have some ideas.
First, Obama was a State Senator for eight years, a U.S. Senator for four before becoming President.

Also, I would be skeptical about any of the things that Dinesh D'Souza puts out about the President; almost all of his work is drivel of varying degrees. Or are you one that believes Obama's governing ideology is based on Kenyan anti-colonialism?
 
You are comparing apples and oranges. Let me know when Obama used his time studying at college as a major reason why he ought to be elected president like Romney has done with his time at Bain Capital.

I wonder how many people remember all the things Romney's GOP rivals said about his record as Gov. of Mass. or his time at Bain capital. Here's a brief reminder from Newt Gingrich compliments of Sean Hannity on FoxNews.

Newt: Let's look at [Romney's] record. Let's see the details.

...

This guy's running for President. He's making a set of claims. He based alot of it on his career. If you ask about his career because he's running for President, I think he owes the country a much more detailed answer about what his career was like, what decisions they made because we're looking at the judgements, the values of a particular person not of a system, but of a person, Mitt Romney, who wants to be President.

So, I ask if such questions pertaining to Mitt's tenure and decision making while at Bain were considered legit - on the table - during the GOP debates, why are so many on the Right trying so hard to convince people that these same questions are off limits now? Rarely do I agree with Newt Gingrich about anything, but he and the President are 100% correct in the rational behind asking questions on Mitt Romney's tenure and business dealings at and w/Bain Capital because it's clear he didn't limit his decision making or business dealings as President & CEO of the company exclusively to his time behind the big chair. Per SEC filings which continued well into 2002, something more has gone on that's not being discussed.
 
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Hilarious projection in this thread by a bunch of desperate liberals unable to defend Obama's failed record as president
 
Hilarious projection in this thread by a bunch of desperate liberals unable to defend Obama's failed record as president

Healthcare for all is a failed record?
2 wars ended....
torture stopped.....
etc etc etc
 
How can you say that when Romney has agreed not to put Rev. Wright on the table? And how can you say it's the first time you've seen this when the sitting president has done the very same thing with his college records?

We know a hell of a lot more about Romney than we know about Obama. Why do you think Obama doesn't want his college records released? It's because of the classes he took. How does a guy get to be President of the United States of America with two years of state legislator experience? I don't know. But having just Seen 2016: Obama's America? I have some ideas.

Well, when you run on a campaign of being able to run a country because you were in charge of a company then ummmm, I expect some proof. That is different than how Obama DIDN'T run on his college grades...
 
It's not a talking point just look at his ad's and what he says in speeches. His campaign strategy is to talk about Mitt in hopes that people will fear what he has to offer. Distort and distract from the miserable economy and high gas prices. Lets compare his campaign speeches in 2008 to his accomplishments in his first term. Gitmo still open? Unemployment still above 8%? Deficit not cut in half? The most important issue for voters this year, the economy, which he is not talking about. I dont blame him. How could a sitting president with 8% UE want to talk about that? I've said this many other times but its still true. Voters don't care about bain capital they care about jobs and the economy.

Heck, lets talk about bain capital. It was a successful company that made Mitt a wealthy man. He made profits from buying and selling companies. Did some of them go under? Heck ya its the free market. Did he come in and clean out all assets for profit, laying off workers in the process? Heck yes he did in some cases. That was his job. But then there are companies like Staples and the sports authority which continue to hire workers today. The more I talk about it, the better it sounds. He needs to do the same thing to the federal government. Strip it down, make it lean but efficient, and stop spending China's money.

Please spare us the theatrics. Broken campaign promises aren't the end of the world. Instead of focusing on what he said he'd do, focus on what he did do. Romney is probably lying his rear off right now. Lying is a part of politics. Is that out of the way yet? We've got to pick through the lies. We have to do the research. We allow them to feed us bullcrap. All of them. Stop allowing it and they won't do it. Ignore the bullcrap. Don't acknowledge it. Seriously. Each political party has to act it up every time somebody throws a fib. Obama didn't accomplish the miracle he said he would. Whadda shocker. Romney probably won't either. Let's focus on tangible evidence then use that to make a healthy prediction. You can rag on Obama's failures all you want as long as they are legit failures. Calling his smoke and mirrors is like being angry that dragons in movies are CGI effects.
 
How can you say that when Romney has agreed not to put Rev. Wright on the table? And how can you say it's the first time you've seen this when the sitting president has done the very same thing with his college records?

We know a hell of a lot more about Romney than we know about Obama. Why do you think Obama doesn't want his college records released? It's because of the classes he took. How does a guy get to be President of the United States of America with two years of state legislator experience? I don't know. But having just Seen 2016: Obama's America? I have some ideas.

I'd say you're abit confused on Pres. Obama's biography. Here's a Wikipedia link to help you get more acquainted w/his background (in case you need a refresher course), i.e., 2-term Illinois Senator (1997-2004), 1-term U.S. Senator (2005-2008).

As for Romney, I'd say his public record is on par w/Obama as far as exactly how much people know about him and his background. For example, I know he was born into wealth (common knowledge), graduated from BYU & Harvard, both Ivy League colleges (same can be said of Obama, a Harvard grad), went to work at Bain & Co. after graduation (mostly due to his name; it happens - 'tis how Dick Fould got into Lemman Bros. - family connections), went on to co-found Bain Capital, and from there became Governor of Mass. and ran the 2002 Winter Olympics. I know he's married as is Pres. Obama and by all accounts seems to be a decent man. But here's the difference: I know more about what makes Pres. Obama tic from reading not only his books but also books written about him and how he governs than I do about Mitt Romney's leadership style or his policies. On the latter, he's either stood behind Republican policies of the past OR he's rode Paul Ryan's coat tail on policy issues. My point here is rarely, if every, has Mitt Romney stood on his own policy iniatives. Maybe I need to research his term as Mass. governor more because that's the only glimps into how he'll lead we have currently.
 

That second story outlining Romney's years at Bain is very telling. If people read nothing about about Romney's business practises, they really should read that article. It's a long read (5 pages), but very informative.
 
Healthcare for all is a failed record?

The most massive tax increase on the poor and middle class in history = FAILURE

2 wars ended....

Iraq was over before Obama took office. Afghanistan is a disaster under his leadership. He started a new war in Libya without Congressional approval = FAILURE

torture stopped.....

There never was torture and without waterboarding we wouldn't have been able to track down OBL. Obama had to be forced to order the Bin Laden mission by Hillary Clinton = FAILURE

etc etc etc

Yea heh ... FAILURE
 
The most massive tax increase on the poor and middle class in history = FAILURE



Iraq was over before Obama took office. Afghanistan is a disaster under his leadership. He started a new war in Libya without Congressional approval = FAILURE



There never was torture and without waterboarding we wouldn't have been able to track down OBL. Obama had to be forced to order the Bin Laden mission by Hillary Clinton = FAILURE



Yea heh ... FAILURE


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