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Fox News poll: Obama's lead grows as Romney's support slips

hazlnut said:
Privatize Medicare. Where's the lie?

Wait, I thought Mitt was distancing himself from the Ryan budget.
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What is the age that Medicare will be so called privatized? Keep showing that you an Obamabot and buy the Obama lies.
 
pbrauer said:
What lies are being told about Ryan's budget? You mean the one about seniors only getting an 'voucher' when they retire?
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That would be one of them, at what age will that voucher program go into effect?
 
hazlnut said:
What does it matter?
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It matters because you and other Obamabots are lying to Seniors who by the way aren't eligible at age 55 and all promises to seniors from 55 on will be honored. Did you see 60 minutes tonight? If so then you would realize your posts are lies.

"What Paul Ryan and I have talked about is saving Medicare, is providing people greater choice in Medicare, making sure it's there for current seniors. No changes, by the way, for current seniors, or those nearing retirement. But looking for young people down the road and saying, "We're going to give you a bigger choice." In America, the nature of this country has been giving people more freedom, more choices. That's how we make Medicare work down the road."

Ryan added, "My mom is a Medicare senior in Florida. Our point is we need to preserve their benefits, because government made promises to them that they've organized their retirements around. In order to make sure we can do that, you must reform it for those of us who are younger. And we think these reforms are good reforms. That have bipartisan origins. They started from the Clinton commission in the late '90s."
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Conservative said:
Why do you continue to believe what Obama Administration and surrogates tell you?
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Tell us, how do we have it wrong.

Don't forget the links and proof.

Obama cuts the waste, Ryan wants to throw the baby out with the bath water. Poor baby.
 
Conservative said:
That would be one of them, at what age will that voucher program go into effect?
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I see it as draconian Darwinism for people like me who have had serious issues. BTW Ayn Rand did rely on medicare after she smoked her f'ing her lungs out.
 
hazlnut said:
Tell us, how do we have it wrong.

Don't forget the links and proof.

Obama cuts the waste, Ryan wants to throw the baby out with the bath water. Poor baby.
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You want links? You made the claim that Romney and Ryan are going to change Medicare for Seniors, I posted the 60 minutes quote tonight that says differently. Now let's see yours to prove tonights quotes wrong?

Doubt that it matters, Mr. Moderate, as you want to believe what Obama tells you and ignore the Obama results.
 
I notice another strange thing on DP, under the topic of the presidential election; the lack of any reason to vote for Obama related to his "forward" plans for boosting the economy. Obama has but one argument, that the past republicant's policies have caused all of the economic problems and that all republicants are alike (you know, wink-wink, mean rich guys). Not once have I heard of any new Obama policy, simply more borrow and spend and hope for changes. We are always reminded that "the economy is fine" that "a recovery is in progress" and that "it is not as fast as we would like". What Romney/Ryan are offering is a change, not the "return to what caused this mess" that Obama pretends that they offer. Look realistically at what Obama actually did, as opposed to what Obama said that he would do; Obama has constantly slammed the "Bush" tax cuts yet has kept those very "problem" FIT rates in every year of his term. Obama talked (promised?) of reducing the federal deficit by half, reforming gov't, eliminating waste (line by line budget changes) and opening up gov't; yet we were actually given a doubling of the federal deficit, more gov't and no budget at all, GSA and Solyndra and the fast & fuzzy cover-up. Yes he did!
 
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Conservative said:
You want links? You made the claim that Romney and Ryan are going to change Medicare for Seniors, I posted the 60 minutes quote tonight that says differently. Now let's see yours to prove tonights quotes wrong?

Doubt that it matters, Mr. Moderate, as you want to believe what Obama tells you and ignore the Obama results.
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Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
hazlnut said:
Sorry to burst your bubble.
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You haven't burst my bubble at all as the Ryan plan doesn't change SS and Medicare for those 55 and older so keep trying to scare seniors when the real scare should come from the Obama record. You being from the Chicago area simply are used to the politics of personal destruction.
 
Conservative said:
You haven't burst my bubble at all as the Ryan plan doesn't change SS and Medicare for those 55 and older so keep trying to scare seniors when the real scare should come from the Obama record. You being from the Chicago area simply are used to the politics of personal destruction.
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So, you're saying the current seniors will be dead (they hope) before the Ryan Plan kicks in.

Good, let's tell the Baby Boomers -- your medicare will change right when you need it.
 
hazlnut said:
So, you're saying the current seniors will be dead (they hope) before the Ryan Plan kicks in.

Good, let's tell the Baby Boomers -- your medicare will change right when you need it.
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Tell me how a "decent man" a "family man" Obama's words hurts seniors one of which is his Mom.

Further seems the co-chair of the Obama debt commission has a different take than you on Obama. Also paid any attention to the polls taken today by ABC News/Washington Post polls. Doesn't seem that the seniors are buying your rhetoric.

In 2011 Clip, Former Clinton White House Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles Praises Paul Ryan Budget, Criticized President Obama - ABC News
 
hazlnut said:
Maybe he'll replace Obamacare with Romneycare.
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Showing how one doesn't understand the difference between states rights and federal power, and how that whole thing is set up and works, probably isn't a good idea. Oh, but you did do it anyway.
 
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