Why Liberals Should NOT Vote For Obama

Bronson said:

I'm just stating fact. There have now been 4 additional posts that weren't necessary because you are not willing to acknowledge reality. GDP is trending down. That's just fact. Reality. It decreased from the last quarter and is projected to grow even slower (if at all). 1.5% isn't even enough growth to keep up with population growth. GDP growth for the entire year of 2011 was 1.8%. That is AFTER Obama's stimulus was passed. That is an economic disaster. 5 trillion has spent for 1.5% GDP growth. This is why I won't waste another post on you. It's pointless.

If you're going to run around the boards spewing a bunch of propaganda, then I'm going to compare you to an infamous propagandist.

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GDP...not keeping up with population growth....?????

We are not talking about employment.

We are talking about 23 quarters of GDP growth, and the best you have is to whine about the economy not being hot enough.
If you want the economy to get hot....then DO talk about the solutions to get employment up......but again you can't since then again you would have to face the fact the private employment gains have been VERY good....and the drag is PUBLIC employment.....which YOU want even less of.....in a recession.

Bronson said:

When Reagan was in office there was real growth. Not this disaster you fools are trying to institutionalize as "normal". Obama has been an economic disaster as president.

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And how did Ronny get that growth...oh yeah....he spent massively on defense/weapons....and tripled the debt...a 298% increase.

Gimmesometruth said:

GDP...not keeping up with population growth....?????

We are not talking about employment.

We are talking about 23 quarters of GDP growth, and the best you have is to whine about the economy not being hot enough.
If you want the economy to get hot....then DO talk about the solutions to get employment up......but again you can't since then again you would have to face the fact the private employment gains have been VERY good....and the drag is PUBLIC employment.....which YOU want even less of.....in a recession.

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1.5% GDP growth rate I hardly call moving forward. In fact it's not, it's stagnate at best, thus added employment is not keeping up with the birth rate. In other words we're going backward. How you can even think a 1.5% growth rate is anything good is ludicrous. The private sector is doing VERY good, I don't think so, of course Obama said that and got laughed at. And why do we need PUBLIC employment, that cost money, tax payer money. But worse it continues to drive up the national debt, under Obama he has increased the national debt by almost 6 trillion in just 4 yrs.

johnny_rebson said:

And the Republican running this year is a RINO.

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There were several Republicans that ran this year... 19 I believe... 10 that received votes in the primary process...

Tim Pawlenty, Thaddeus McCotter, Gary Johnson, Herman Cain, Buddy Roemer, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, John Huntsman, Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum... with many other exploratory committees or leakes possible runs by several others... Such as Chris Christie, Bobby Jindall, Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Mike Huckabee, etc. The only person who consistently came out on top, is the one who ended up winning the process, by getting the most votes... That's how this system works...

Only 1 dominated the primaries, because he was by far the most qualified candidate... who reached the broadest audience... and stands the best chance at winning the general election...

That's why he is the current presumptive nominee...

This isn't some mistake, that a few people chose him, and forced him on the people... the guy dominated the polls... taking 3/4ths of the states and the votes... with 3 other candidates splitting the final 1/4 throughout most of the process...

Now, you're either misguided, a sore loser, or just a contrarian that's defeatist in nature if you're not willing to rally around whoever is running against Obama...

If Obama is the enemy of what you stand for, then wanting Obama to win is the worst approach you can take...

If you think "hey, if Romney loses, than next time..." That's absurd, because you have no idea whatsoever will occur next time... You can't even guarantee that whoever the Republicans nominate next time doesn't automatically lose to Hillary by a desire for the first woman president, like the same wave that ushered in Obama...

This is the 2012 presidential election process... the only objective right now is win the presidency of the next administration...

The only vote you have is right now... and right now, theres a socialist, elitist, pushing a heavily liberal agenda... that's increased the size and scope of government, increased the debt, etc. and is the very antithesis of the conservative that you wish to be in the White House...

It's all or nothing for the next 4 years... which is it going to be for you...

4 years of Obama, who is nothing like what you want,

or,

4 years of Romney who isn't everything you want, but is certainly a lot closer and more receptive to what you want than Obama? (and who actually balanced a budget, cut the size of government, and got stuff done)

There really isn't much of a choice...

Krhazy said:

Please compare to the last Republican president's opening and closing figures on the same metrics, and then we'll talk about "logic" and "reality."

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Do you and your "likes" buddies realize that equivocation is not a valid argument in debating?

Probably not. I don't expect that any of you have actually had semi-formal experience in debating. So please, by all means, continue to sling mud and look like ignorant liberals. Your deflective maneuvering to protect Barack Obama is palpable, laughable, and just plain stupid.

Krhazy said:

Please compare to the last Republican president's opening and closing figures on the same metrics, and then we'll talk about "logic" and "reality."

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the previous president isn't running, thank god...

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™

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Anyone that expects an over-night change from a recession to an economic boom is an idiot. At least Obama isn't dumb enough to want to increase defense spending while cutting taxes like Romney. That will DEFINITELY not improve the economy.