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Can anyones mind be changed?[W:12]

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At this point, for me personally, it'd take some major missteps by Romney to likely cause me to change my mind in regards to voting for him rather than voting 3rd party. At this point, there is nothing I can feasibly see that would cause me to change my mind to vote for Obama.
 
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Zyphlin said:
Yes, people's minds can be changed. However, most likely, the mind's that will be open to change are typically thos within the "fat middle". These are the individuals who are honestly either not particular to either party OR are just relatively light supporters or one or the other. These people tend NOT to be individuals heavily engaged in politics or the type of join a political forum. These are your average individuals whoh at best pay attention to politics a bit during the election season and at worst will possibly talk about politics amongst some friends but even that is generally at a very base or individualized level.
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In other words, those who pay close attention to the happenings.
Politically minded people tend to be firmly rooted in their ideas and ideology, shifting a bit here or there but generally knowing full well where they stand, how they feel, and what they think. They make up the minority. For many people, Politics is not as in depth as many of us here view it. I think those are the type of people whose minds could still be changed. Those individuals are just barely beginning to likely really pay attention to the election stuff, if at all, and the full cycle hasn't really begun yet.
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Again, many do pay attention, to everything. Convictions are a wonderful thing. Standing behind a party, just because it gives lip service to such convictions, is falling into the same old circle over and over again.
I.e., look at the Republicans. Fast forward from the tea party rallies to a candidate Romney.

I don't think you're going to find a ton of people on a forum like this who HONESTLY could say they don't know who they wll vote for. Most likely, in a place like this, what you have is someone saying "they don't know" but in reality they have a good guess of who it is that they're LIKELY to vote for and whether there's an honest and legitimate shot to go the other way. I think the people whose minds may be swayed one way or another are those who will only really make their voices heard much in the political realm on electoin day.
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Perhaps so. More likely, many have their minds made up for them. Its either against Obama or for Romney, just so the cycle may begin anew. Nothing will ever change unless we have real conviction, seek real change, and go for it, independently.
 
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Lovebug said:
In other words, those who pay close attention to the happenings.
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Yes and no. There are many people on both sides who identify themselves solidly and completely with one party who still don't honestly pay either 1) close attention to the happenings or 2) objective attention to the happenings
 
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As Nov. gets closer, minds will be changed -- a good percentage of the truly undecided will make a decision.

The probability that a pre-decided mind will be changed from one of the listed candidates to another is most likely inversely proportional to the product of the number of days in which that mind first chose its current candidate and the distance from the center on the political spectrum at which that mind calibrates.

The apathetic minds will likely remain apathetic .. not that anybody really cares about the apathetic.

Discouraged minds will likely remain discouraged, as there's simply no encouraging candidate on the list.
 
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If Romney has some good ideas that are not the same rinse and repeat Trickle down nonsense, I'll listen. As long as Conservatives believe that trickle down works dispite all data that says it doesn't, I'll never vote for a Conservative. So far, Romney is following the party line of cutting taxes (increasing the deficit), increasing the military and cutting regulations, none of which has been effective at either balancing the budget or creating jobs.
 
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Zyphlin said:
Yes and no. There are many people on both sides who identify themselves solidly and completely with one party who still don't honestly pay either 1) close attention to the happenings or 2) objective attention to the happenings
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Fair enough. Objectivity might be the key word.
 
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Can anyones mind be changed?
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Actually people's minds don't need to be changed, they just need to realize that the Democrat/Republican/Libertarian/Green Parties are all the same one globalist party.
 
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Bobcat said:
I think the debates will change some minds. Reagan/Carter debates were significant to the vote, so were Kennedy/Nixon.
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I don't know about changing minds... perhaps if they were leaning toward one or the other but not solid. The debates are more likely to make up someones mind I would think.
 
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While you might not be able to get someone to vote for your candidate, you always have a shot at demotivating them from voting for the other guy. That is why low turnout is the key for many of these politicians. They aren't looking to win support, only to tear down the other guy more than he tears them down.
 
Bobcat said:
Or has everyone already decided who to vote for? Thoughts-----
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People who talk politics on boards like this usually have their mind make up by now.

That means you're not going to change the minds of the people you argue with here.
 
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I could be convinced to not vote for Obama, but there's no way I'm voting for Mitchell.
 
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I am very unimpressed with Obama and I am pretty much voting against him, not so much for Romney. I could, however, vote Democrat if Hillary were to run (although this will not happen during this race).
 
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hazlnut said:
So sayeth the Fox News sheep...






You demonstrate your intelligence by offering up the thoughts of another..?? Well played, genius.
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that Fox News is really an issue for you? wow..and you say you have an "open mind"..LOL..

and thank you for the compliment..

and no..my sig is just a great line from a very smart man...
 
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I changed my mind from Obama to Jill Stein (Green party).
 
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Bobcat said:
a vote for her is a vote for obama, you have not changed anything.
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That's funny. My liberal friends tell me a vote for her is a vote for Romney. :)

But I am guessing you mean you think they are politically identical, in which case you are way off. If you look at Obama's actions rather than his rhetoric, he has more in common with Romney than Stein. Particularly when it comes to civil liberties and military force.
 
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Sarcogito said:
That's funny. My liberal friends tell me a vote for her is a vote for Romney. :)

But I am guessing you mean you think they are politically identical, in which case you are way off. If you look at Obama's actions rather than his rhetoric, he has more in common with Romney than Stein. Particularly when it comes to civil liberties and military force.
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depends on who you would vote for if you did not vote for Stein. What exactly do you think you will accomplish be voting for her? just curious. Do you think the media will discuss votes for 3rd party candidates and what they might mean? Do you think either party will change its platform because 2% of the voters vote for 3rd parties?

No, we have to fix the GOP, not derail it and give obama another term.
 
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Bobcat said:
depends on who you would vote for if you did not vote for Stein. What exactly do you think you will accomplish be voting for her? just curious. Do you think the media will discuss votes for 3rd party candidates and what they might mean? Do you think either party will change its platform because 2% of the voters vote for 3rd parties?

No, we have to fix the GOP, not derail it and give obama another term.
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What will I accomplis? Well, no single vote accomplishes anything. So if my one vote won't sway the election then at least I can vote my conscience. Also, while I know my State's electoral votes will got to Romney, at least I can be a part of the popular vote. I hope whichever of the two main candidates win, that he does so with less than 50% of the vote. They both suck and I don't want the winner thinking he has a mandate.
 
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Sarcogito said:
What will I accomplis? Well, no single vote accomplishes anything. So if my one vote won't sway the election then at least I can vote my conscience. Also, while I know my State's electoral votes will got to Romney, at least I can be a part of the popular vote. I hope whichever of the two main candidates win, that he does so with less than 50% of the vote. They both suck and I don't want the winner thinking he has a mandate.
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sounds like you favor more govt gridlock. actually thats probably a good thing, if the govt does nothing they can't do anything wrong.
 
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Bobcat said:
sounds like you favor more govt gridlock. actually thats probably a good thing, if the govt does nothing they can't do anything wrong.
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I guess everything has a silver lining. :)
 
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Bobcat said:
depends on who you would vote for if you did not vote for Stein. What exactly do you think you will accomplish be voting for her? just curious. Do you think the media will discuss votes for 3rd party candidates and what they might mean? Do you think either party will change its platform because 2% of the voters vote for 3rd parties?

No, we have to fix the GOP, not derail it and give obama another term.
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We hear that every election cycle.
Just think, if people would actually vote their convictions, we would have some serious choices.
As long as we vote for one, or against another, nothing will ever chance, and both the DNC and the GOP know it, count on it, and are happy about it.
 
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I would say most minds are made up for this election. At least for those who actually vote. I think only some big surprise would change things. I think we are looking at an Obama win.
 
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jambalaya said:
I would say most minds are made up for this election. At least for those who actually vote.
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Yep..I dont know a person who is not voting for Mitt.. even my Lib friends and family are done with Rev Al Obama... Obama is a disaster..
 
Bobcat said:
Or has everyone already decided who to vote for? Thoughts-----
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I think there are a lot of undecided out there and increasing every day as Hussein Obama opens mouth and inserts foot. I am not saying these people won't vote for Hussein Obama......They will probably just stay home.
 
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Travis007 said:
Yep..I dont know a person who is not voting for Mitt.. even my Lib friends and family are done with Rev Al Obama... Obama is a disaster..
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I don't know about a Lib but I personally know a lot of moderates who voted for Hussein Obama in 2008 who fell for his lies will be voting for Romney this time.
 
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