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Polls: Bain Attacks Fail to Shift Voters

Straight up delusional thinking if you believe that the President's messaging is part and parcel of some intelligent playbook he is thumbing through. The fact of the matter is that the President is deflecting from his own record in order to keep his pawns (ie. you) chattering about useless talking points instead of talking about the real issues. In case you haven't noticed, the populace are concerned about the economy. They know Romney is rich. They know he has business experience. They could care less about his tax returns. They want jobs, they want to pay their bills, they want to get off of food stamps, and they want to feel dignified again.

Your master, Barack Obama, has you as fooled today as you were in 2008 when you pulled the lever for him. That doesn't shine a very positive light on you or your liberal colleagues. Seriously.

The Lowest Common Denominator™ is who Barack Obama seeks to make his case to. You have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker. A slobbering love affair if there ever has been one. Intelligent liberals don't like Barack Obama. What does that say about those of you who parrot his talking points? I find that to be highly embarrassing for you and your types.

Liberals have been completely brainwashed and swept away by Hope and Change

If you want to understand them look up cult behavior. Support of Obama is a Utopian Cult

Cults and Mental Disorders

Cults promote a belief system which is utopian/idealistic, and also dualistic and bi-polar in nature. Dualistic in that they see the world in terms of two opposite poles, such as good versus evil, the saved and the fallen, the enlightened and the ignorant, etc.

Cult belief systems are also bi-polar in psychological terms, rather like Bi-polar disorder or manic-depression. Cults promote a vision of an ideal 'new self', which members believe they can attain by following the cult teachings. Cult belief systems encourage the aspirant to identify with this imagined ideal new self, and then, from the perspective of this new self, to see their old self as comparatively inferior and flawed. It is ego-utopia or hubris for the new self, and ego-dystonia or shame for the old self. (Shame of the old self is the liberal shame of the United States. Obama and liberals believe the "old" United States is flawed which is why Obama promised to fundamentally transform it to wild applause.)

Believers can experience a sort of religious mania of inspiration, (HOPE AND CHANGE RISE OF THE OCEANS) when they are in the hubris phase, identifying with this idealised imaginary new self, with its perfect perception and understanding, etc. They can become addicted to this hubris high, and become dependent on the group and its leadership to validate their spiritual progress and to maintain this inspiration.

There is often a sort of collective arrogance or hubris among established cult members. They see themselves as part of an elite, and look down rather sniffily upon the mores and values of established mainstream institutions.
 
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You forget the younger generation is entering the voting arena, whereas some of McCain's senior supporters are six-feet under.

yes.. the most qualified of voters... lets hope mom doesnt let them use the car thats about to repo'd to go to vote for Rev Al Obama..
 
yes.. the most qualified of voters... lets hope mom doesnt let them use the car thats about to repo'd to go to vote for Rev Al Obama..

Basically this translates to: "let's hope they don't vote for someone I don't like"

...how very un-American of you.
 
Basically this translates to: "let's hope they don't vote for someone I don't like"

...how very un-American of you.

we already ran the "Obama experiment".... its over ..it was pure FAIL...
 
And Obama can claim, what, exactly?

He can claim the status quo, "which is not good enough to win" re-election.

The results of the poll are a two way street. But keep spinning. It's fun to watch!

Status quo wins for Obama though. Electoral map pretty much ensures it. RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map

Likely + leans Obama 231 electoral votes.
Likely + leans Romney 181 electoral votes.

Obama holds a lead of > 3 points in 5 of 12 battleground states. Romney holds a lead of > 3 in none. The status quo favors Obama heavily.
 
Status quo wins for Obama though. Electoral map pretty much ensures it. RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map

Likely + leans Obama 231 electoral votes.
Likely + leans Romney 181 electoral votes.

Obama holds a lead of > 3 points in 5 of 12 battleground states. Romney holds a lead of > 3 in none. The status quo favors Obama heavily.

I'd say solidly, but heavily is pushing it. Florida is still ridiculously close, as is Virginia and North Carolina. Ohio's the best one of the battle ground that he's significantly favored in, and even that is under 5%. Under 5% isn't a huge amount of ground to cover, especially with a good bit of time left with the heart of the campaign still not upon us. The status quo definitely favors Obama, but I think heavily is pushing it in the description category.
 
I'd say solidly, but heavily is pushing it. Florida is still ridiculously close, as is Virginia and North Carolina. Ohio's the best one of the battle ground that he's significantly favored in, and even that is under 5%. Under 5% isn't a huge amount of ground to cover, especially with a good bit of time left with the heart of the campaign still not upon us. The status quo definitely favors Obama, but I think heavily is pushing it in the description category.

Let me be clear: those numbers are all going to change. The status quo will not last. We got two big conventions, a big VP announcement, 4 big debates. The point is that Romney has to gain to win. Obama does not.
 
This isn't going to be a cakewalk for Obama but he's still in better shape that Romney...so far. Close in the polls, in fact practically tied but Obama is still ahead. Looking closer at the toss up states, which are too close to say for sure how they'll vote Obama is ahead in every single one according to a detailed state by state collection of polls I saw. In a couple of states the differences were razor thin but Obama was still ahead in every toss up state. It might have changed since then.

November is a bit away and the conventions and the debates could change everything. Interestingly, the VP pick could also make a difference.
 
This isn't going to be a cakewalk for Obama but he's still in better shape that Romney...so far. Close in the polls, in fact practically tied but Obama is still ahead. Looking closer at the toss up states, which are too close to say for sure how they'll vote Obama is ahead in every single one according to a detailed state by state collection of polls I saw. In a couple of states the differences were razor thin but Obama was still ahead in every toss up state. It might have changed since then.

November is a bit away and the conventions and the debates could change everything. Interestingly, the VP pick could also make a difference.

You're close to right. Check out post 37. Romney's up in Missouri and barely in North Carolina. Obama's up by less than 3 in five states, the most important being Florida. He's up by 4-7% in five other states, the most important being Ohio.
 
Straight up delusional thinking if you believe that the President's messaging is part and parcel of some intelligent playbook he is thumbing through. The fact of the matter is that the President is deflecting from his own record in order to keep his pawns (ie. you) chattering about useless talking points instead of talking about the real issues. In case you haven't noticed, the populace are concerned about the economy. They know Romney is rich. They know he has business experience. They could care less about his tax returns. They want jobs, they want to pay their bills, they want to get off of food stamps, and they want to feel dignified again.
I hope Romney's advisors think like you do. Obama will be a shoe in for another 4 years. The man is not stupid and he is playing the game. It's hard to win a fight off of your back foot, and prior to the Bain attacks and tax nonsense, Obama was getting hammered like crazy. After the Bain ads and tax crap... nothing. It's completely shifted and now Romney is trying to fight off his back foot. This leaves Obama free to stop defending and start attacking and rallying his base while Romney is busy trying to get around the barrage of accusation and call for him to release his tax info which is weakening his base. If you shortsighted posts are any indication of how the Romney camp is thinking... I'll be happy in November.

Your master, Barack Obama, has you as fooled today as you were in 2008 when you pulled the lever for him. That doesn't shine a very positive light on you or your liberal colleagues. Seriously.
Dumbass comment.

The Lowest Common Denominator™ is who Barack Obama seeks to make his case to. You have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker. A slobbering love affair if there ever has been one. Intelligent liberals don't like Barack Obama. What does that say about those of you who parrot his talking points? I find that to be highly embarrassing for you and your types.
What is with you Conservatives and the insults? Can you have a discussion without them for once? It's boring now. I'm not 13 and swayed by whiny weakminded comments made to make someone ashamed to be associated with a particular view but lacks greatly on substance and facts. Bring something of value or STFU.
 
Let me be clear: those numbers are all going to change. The status quo will not last. We got two big conventions, a big VP announcement, 4 big debates. The point is that Romney has to gain to win. Obama does not.

Was about to respond to an earlier post with exactly that response. As loud and confident as anyone tends to be, the reality is that this is still July. A lot can (and likely will) happen between now and early November.

Not sayin' that this isn't fun to watch and project. But polls aren't going to become genuinely meaningful until sometime in October. And even up to election day we have been mightily fooled by poll results....
 
Romney (probably temporarily) edges ahead in Gallup and Rasmussen.


...The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows Mitt Romney attracting 47% of the vote, while President Obama earns support from 44%. Five percent (5%) prefer some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided...

To address the nation’s economic challenges, 21% of Likely Voters favor an increase in government spending. Three times as many (64%) think the government should cut spending to spur economic growth...

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