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Will Obama Share his Goals for Another Four Years

Interesting that Obama supporters have not been able, or willing, to try and lay out a vision for a second term. That should tell us all anyone needs to know.
 
washunut said:
Interesting that Obama supporters have not been able, or willing, to try and lay out a vision for a second term. That should tell us all anyone needs to know.
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Interesting, I actually did and you ignored it.
 
washunut said:
It is clear that Obama will not run a campaign asking for four more years due to the great job he did since in office. We can see he will spend his time explaining what a rotten, rich, which, privileged guy Romney is.

The question is will he outline what his goals are if he were to be re-elected. What is his vision for America?
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Presumably his second term will be one of consolidation (especially since he'd most likely be facing a Republican-dominated Congress). This means shoring up the Affordable Care Act and make sure its provisions actually take effect, appointing liberals to the Supreme Court to replace Ginsburg and Breyer, and ensuring that no crazy legislation from the insane clown posse in Congress actually becomes law. I doubt he's going to have too many major legislative victories in his second term.
 
Redress said:
Interesting, I actually did and you ignored it.
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The only thing I saw from you was a link to an I like Obama site. Was there something else?
 
Kandahar said:
Presumably his second term will be one of consolidation (especially since he'd most likely be facing a Republican-dominated Congress). This means shoring up the Affordable Care Act and make sure its provisions actually take effect, appointing liberals to the Supreme Court to replace Ginsburg and Breyer, and ensuring that no crazy legislation from the insane clown posse in Congress actually becomes law. I doubt he's going to have too many major legislative victories in his second term.
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Not much of a vision, when the country needs leadership. But if that is the case, let him espouse it and we will see if it flies.
 
washunut said:
Not much of a vision, when the country needs leadership.
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There is only so much that the president can accomplish legislatively if he is facing an opposition Congress that refuses to cooperate.

But if that is the case, let him espouse it and we will see if it flies.
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This compares to Mitt Romney's vision of America, which is...umm...what exactly? I can't think of a single issue where Mitt Romney has staked out a policy vision of what he'd do if elected, other than "zomg Obama sux lol." So far he's punted on health care, he's punted on the economy, he's punted on immigration, he's punted on foreign policy. As far as I can tell he has no discernible policy platform at all, beyond boilerplate platitudes.

Obama has been president for four years now; you should have a pretty good idea of where he stands. Mitt Romney has been noncommittal to doing anything except repealing Barack Obama.
 
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Kandahar said:
There is only so much that the president can accomplish legislatively if he is facing an opposition Congress that refuses to cooperate.



This compares to Mitt Romney's vision of America, which is...umm...what exactly? I can't think of a single issue where Mitt Romney has staked out a policy vision of what he'd do if elected, other than "zomg Obama sux lol." So far he's punted on health care, he's punted on the economy, he's punted on immigration, he's punted on foreign policy. As far as I can tell he has no discernible policy platform at all, beyond boilerplate platitudes.

Obama has been president for four years now; you should have a pretty good idea of where he stands. Mitt Romney has been noncommittal to doing anything except repealing Barack Obama.
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try to stay on topic. The question posed is what Obama wants to do in the next four years, not about Romney. You can start that thread if you want. Please stop derailing this one.

You seem to have nothing of substance to add, so admit it and move on.
 
washunut said:
try to stay on topic. The question posed is what Obama wants to do in the next four years, not about Romney. You can start that thread if you want. Please stop derailing this one.

You seem to have nothing of substance to add, so admit it and move on.
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Well, I told you exactly what Obama's likely agenda would be for the next four years. I don't know how much clearer of an answer you could want. Seems to me you shouldn't start threads in the first place, if you just want to bitch rather than actually discuss the topic you came up with. But whatever.
 
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washunut said:
The only thing I saw from you was a link to an I like Obama site. Was there something else?
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Kind of like Romney's website, it is where Obama lays out his vision for the next 4 years in other than sound bite fashion. In other words, he has done exactly what you want him to do.
 
washunut said:
It is clear that Obama will not run a campaign asking for four more years due to the great job he did since in office. We can see he will spend his time explaining what a rotten, rich, which, privileged guy Romney is.

The question is will he outline what his goals are if he were to be re-elected. What is his vision for America?
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No. Keynesianism having failed and Obamacare having been held up, I would imagine he is pretty much fresh out of ideas. It's going to be piddling stuff from now on (algae! student loan interest rates!).
 
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Indeed. Obama probably could have run on "It's bad, but without what we did, we would have gone off the cliff." Romney (and every reputable economist) knows that the stimulus prevented a steep aggregate demand drop, but Obama has let the GOP frame the economy. For such a great Orator, he's basically dropped the ball on this one. Healthcare as well.
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Crewman: Aye Captain, the Titanic is sinking slower than we expected.
Captain Barry: So the ship will stop sinking?
Crewman: No sir, it will just prolong it a few more hours.
Captain Barry: Then the results will be the same, the ship's still going under and we're all ending up in the frigid water anyway.
Crewman: Yes sir.
Captain Barry: Will help get here by then?
Crewman: No sir.
Captain Barry: What's the point then?
Crewman: I don't know sir.

176,000 new jobs vs 374,000 new jobless claims. We're still losing 2 jobs for every new one created. Were still sinking and we're all going to end up in the icy water, so what's the point in continuing with Obama's failed economic policies? Obama said if he couldn't turn the economy around in 4 years, he would be a one term proposition. The economy will have turned around when there are more new jobs than jobless claims per month. That won't happen with Obama or the Democrats in charge especially by November.
 
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Kandahar said:
Presumably his second term will be one of consolidation (especially since he'd most likely be facing a Republican-dominated Congress). This means shoring up the Affordable Care Act and make sure its provisions actually take effect, appointing liberals to the Supreme Court to replace Ginsburg and Breyer, and ensuring that no crazy legislation from the insane clown posse in Congress actually becomes law. I doubt he's going to have too many major legislative victories in his second term.
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Wow, what a bold agenda. That should draw in those already in his camp to come out and vote for him, but not sure why anyone else would. What about the deficit? What about the fiscal cliff? What about entitlement reform? I guess if we want someone to actually address the real problems facing the country, Obama is not the man.
 
obvious Child said:
Indeed. Obama probably could have run on "It's bad, but without what we did, we would have gone off the cliff." Romney (and every reputable economist) knows that the stimulus prevented a steep aggregate demand drop, but Obama has let the GOP frame the economy. For such a great Orator, he's basically dropped the ball on this one. Healthcare as well.
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That four years ago he signed his name to a piece of legislation written by the Pelosi-led House of Representatives is hardly a reason to vote for him now. Nor will it stand in for an actual agenda moving forward. If he wants four more years as president, the least he could do is lay out what he plans to do.
 
apdst said:
He didn't spell out his plans in 2008, either. He sure as hell isn't going to, now. He wants to hang on to his half-ass chance of getting re-elected. :rofl
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I hope he keep Biden.
 
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