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What will be Obama's main thrust during the campaign? [W:202/271]

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I'm wondering what Obama's strategy will be this year. What do Obama supporters feel comfortable upholding as "job well done"-type things?

The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is that he got bin Laden. However, it is debatable whether or not anyone else would have done the same thing given the same circumstances. (I am firmly convinced that had Bush gone into Pakistan unannounced, Libs would be screaming their heads off and tearing out their hair about how W violated the sovereignty of another nation and that he should have included Pakistan in the takedown.)

Basically, what are Obama supporters proud of? Why does "their guy" deserve to be their guy? Convince me.
 
I'm wondering what Obama's strategy will be this year. What do Obama supporters feel comfortable upholding as "job well done"-type things?

The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is that he got bin Laden. However, it is debatable whether or not anyone else would have done the same thing given the same circumstances. (I am firmly convinced that had Bush gone into Pakistan unannounced, Libs would be screaming their heads off and tearing out their hair about how W violated the sovereignty of another nation and that he should have included Pakistan in the takedown.)

Basically, what are Obama supporters proud of? Why does "their guy" deserve to be their guy? Convince me.

obama has had a horribly rough month,but he will rebound,with a new strategy at some point.

but if things stay the same direction for him come november,probably the only thing he would have going for him is i killed obl and atleast your not on fire.

oh and another thing,last i read obamas popularity is dropping fast worldwide due to drone strikes that violate international law and poor handling of the us/eu economic situations.even his apology tours dont seem to work much anymore!!!
 
If the economy starts to turn around, he'll look better to the general public. I think this is still the #1 issue for voters. If this happens, and I were one of his advisors, I'd tell him to work the "things are getting better" strategy.
 
His main thrust will be pointing out the uncanny similarities between Romney and the man he replaced.
 
What are Obama supporters proud of? Why does he DESERVE to be the President? Logic says the answer to this question should be his campaign's highlight reel.
 
His main thrust will be pointing out the uncanny similarities between Romney and the man he replaced.

If he's smart he will.

But then Romney has a lot of ammo on the failures of Obama's presidency.
 
If he's smart he will.

But then Romney has a lot of ammo on the failures of Obama's presidency.

If he uses it wisely.

Obama has received his share of cheers for his vocalized "support" for gay marriage and the hiatus he placed on younger undocumented aliens being deported. Everyone knows these are just ineffective election year gestures to garner votes, which are practiced by many politicians.

I call it throwing darts. He's hoping for something to stick in a big way. However, he can't run on slogans any more like "hope and change." We all found out that hope and change is not an effective plan of action to get the USA moving toward economic growth and prosperity.

I also wonder though how long he will be able to convince swing voters it's the republicans fault or its GWB's fault that he isn't a more effective leader.

It will be interesting to see the outcome in November.
 
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If he uses it wisely.

Obama has received his share of cheers for his vocalized "support" for gay marriage and the hiatus he placed on younger undocumented aliens being deported. Everyone knows these are just ineffective election year gestures to garner votes, which are practiced by many politicians.

I call it throwing darts. He's hoping for something to stick in a big way. However, he can't run on slogans any more like "hope and change." We all found out that hope and change is not an effective plan of action to get the USA moving toward economic growth and prosperity.

I also wonder though how long he will be able to convince swing voters it's the republicans fault or its GWB's fault that he isn't a more effective leader.

It will be interesting to see the outcome in November.
He is going to play the things such as gays in the military and a more accepting stance on gay marriage to the hit. He is going to need every last social liberal he can get to nail down a 2nd term. As for the economy, unless something drastic happens in the positive way, which is all but a certainty NOT to happen, he can only run on the how bad it was and how he saved the country from a 1930's depression. (most libs are still believing this) but can he get the moderates on board with this? He is also going to do everything he can to paint a rosier picture of the economy than what it really is. Here is the problem though, too many conservative outlets are going to counter this with the truth.

He can run on that he passed the HC bill, but its going to be hard to run on it being good. Its losing what popularity it did have so that is going to be more of an elephant on his back, as is the economy because after 4 years, the "It's my predecessors fault" just won't work.

To be honest, and most liberals do know this, they are catching a major break this year with the weakness of the GOP, and the less than inspiring POS they nominated to run against Obama.
 
Hes going to campaign as the opposite of romney as he has been and the only alternative to far right ideals.
 
I'm wondering what Obama's strategy will be this year.

It appears it will be the same thing it has already been: Romney bad, me good. GOP hates you, I love you.
 
Obama does not talk about Obamacare, he does not talk about the economy, he does not talk about his stimulus, nor does he talk how he raised the national debt by 6 trillion. So Obama is full of failed polices and out of ideas. All he has left is demonize his opponent and divert the people's attention away from his failures. Will it work? No, the people are not that stupid.
 
Hes going to campaign as the opposite of romney as he has been and the only alternative to far right ideals.

wait how can bush 4 who claimed to be the opposite of bush 3(mcain)run again on being the opposite of another bush(romney=bush 5)

seems bush incarnate keeps winning,they claim not to be bushbut keep doing the same things.


bush 4 vs bush 5,who will win this election.i cant get a clip from youtube but it reminds me of the debate on futurama with the identical twins running for president wanting the same thing just wording it differently.
 
If I were Obama I would focus almost primarily on the economy. Point out that when he took office we were hemmoraghing jobs at an alarming rate, he has turned that around. We have had several consecutive months of job growth, although not as much as we would like, it is still a vast improvement over the previous administration. I would point out that under Obama, we have added more jobs in the last year, than the entire 8 years of the economy under GWB, so we are moving in the right direction.

After that....I would focus on what he has tried to do for the middle/working class. I would point out that the GOP has essentially held the middle class hostage in order to protect tax cuts for the wealthiest of Americans (the GOP Base). I would hammer home that Romney and the rest of the GOP do not care about the middle class, Obama does.

I would point out Romney's failure as a Governor in Massachusetts. I would focus on the falsity of his job creation claims and how many jobs were outsourced while he was in the private corporate world.

Essentially, Obama needs to distinguish the biggest difference between himself and Romney. A vote for Romney is a vote to return to the same failed "trickle down" economic policies that fail time and again vs. a vote for Obama to continue our steady course towards economic recovery.
 
Obama's main thrust will be to pick an issue that polls well with the target audience (it will vary at least weekly), and explain that in his NEXT term, he will address it with an unprecedented high priority, unlike those mean, rich, greedy republicants, that only want to make the rich even richer by keeping the economy slow and unemployment high. Obama will say he will move us FORWARD, with liberty, justice, jobs and education for all! Not back to the bad old republicant policies (passed by demorat congressional majorities) that caused him to not meet many of his 2008 campaign promises. Basically, Obama will lie a lot, and speak of the wonderful things that ALMOST worked out for him, and assure the public that his OJT taught him just to rule as the king that the liberals truely deserve. Yes he will!
 
I'm wondering what Obama's strategy will be this year. What do Obama supporters feel comfortable upholding as "job well done"-type things?

The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is that he got bin Laden. However, it is debatable whether or not anyone else would have done the same thing given the same circumstances. (I am firmly convinced that had Bush gone into Pakistan unannounced, Libs would be screaming their heads off and tearing out their hair about how W violated the sovereignty of another nation and that he should have included Pakistan in the takedown.)

Basically, what are Obama supporters proud of? Why does "their guy" deserve to be their guy? Convince me.

He has no good record to run on. He'll need to go negative from the start which will back fire on him. He has no successes to speak of.
 
If I were Obama I would focus almost primarily on the economy. Point out that when he took office we were hemmoraghing jobs at an alarming rate, he has turned that around. We have had several consecutive months of job growth, although not as much as we would like, it is still a vast improvement over the previous administration. I would point out that under Obama, we have added more jobs in the last year, than the entire 8 years of the economy under GWB, so we are moving in the right direction.

UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE WEEKLY CLAIMS REPORT

SEASONALLY ADJUSTED DATA

In the week ending June 16, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 387,000, a decrease of 2,000 from the previous week's revised figure of 389,000. The 4-week moving average was 386,250, an increase of 3,500 from the previous week's revised average of 382,750.

The advance seasonally adjusted insured unemployment rate was 2.6 percent for the week ending June 9, unchanged from the prior week's unrevised rate.

The advance number for seasonally adjusted insured unemployment during the week ending June 9 was 3,299,000, unchanged from the preceding week's revised level. The 4-week moving average was 3,293,750, an increase of 5,250 from the preceding week's revised average of 3,288,500.

ETA Press Release: Unemployment Insurance Weekly Claims Report

Are you serious, job growth? We continue to lose 3+ million jobs a month and gain 169,000. I guess if he wants to try the "better than nuthin" strategy, good luck to 'em.


Essentially, Obama needs to distinguish the biggest difference between himself and Romney. A vote for Romney is a vote to return to the same failed "trickle down" economic policies that fail time and again vs. a vote for Obama to continue our steady course towards economic recovery.

GDP growth 2% or less and 3 million new jobless claims every four weeks, is that what you expect him to win on? Really?
 
Are you serious, job growth? We continue to lose 3+ million jobs a month and gain 169,000. I guess if he wants to try the "better than nuthin" strategy, good luck to 'em.




GDP growth 2% or less and 3 million new jobless claims every four weeks, is that what you expect him to win on? Really?
I'm afraid you misinterpreted your own article, it seems you mistook the total INS data for the initial claims figures.
Might wanna take a second gander at those figures, to stem off further humiliation.
 
He has no good record to run on. He'll need to go negative from the start which will back fire on him. He has no successes to speak of.

Not even remotely true. Obama's campaign strategy will go like this:

1: Economy went from huge job losses when he took office, to job gains every month. GDP went from shrinking to growing. Businesses are making huge profits again, and stock market is back up. Note that all these are positives and demonstrably true. Whether those are true because of him is debatable, but that is true in terms of any economic issue.

2: All 3 US automakers are doing well post bailout.

3: We got out of Iraq as promised.

4: We have a timetable for Afghanistan(he might not use this one as drawing attention to Afghanistan might not be a winning idea).

5: Bin Laden is no longer a threat to any one.

6: Middle class are paying less in taxes.

7: Romney's tax plan is likely to increase taxes on the middle class

8: Romney is out of touch with most of America and will look out for corporations over individuals(supply side voodoo economics)

It will go from there. Obama does have things he can point to as positive accomplishments and positive things that have happened since he took office. While he may not have caused some of them to happen, like every president he will take credit since he will also be blamed for many things beyond his control. On economic issues, the US economy is so complex it is impossible to know for sure how much if any credit he should get for what recovery we have had, not how much blame for the remaining problems with the economy, though both sides will spin it out plenty.

Overall, Obama has a decent to strong hand to play, and much better for him, Romney's hand is much weaker.
 
Are you serious, job growth? We continue to lose 3+ million jobs a month and gain 169,000. I guess if he wants to try the "better than nuthin" strategy, good luck to 'em.




GDP growth 2% or less and 3 million new jobless claims every four weeks, is that what you expect him to win on? Really?


Your math is majorly ****ed. The 3 million number is total people drawing unemployment insurance. Further, you are spinning out what is being said instead of discussing the issue, which is what will Obama run on.
 
"Change. Seriously, guys. This time I mean it."
 
If I were Obama I would focus almost primarily on the economy. Point out that when he took office we were hemmoraghing jobs at an alarming rate, he has turned that around. We have had several consecutive months of job growth, although not as much as we would like, it is still a vast improvement over the previous administration. I would point out that under Obama, we have added more jobs in the last year, than the entire 8 years of the economy under GWB, so we are moving in the right direction.

You have to count the recession in Bush's figures, and DISCOUNT them for Obama's in order to make this work. In order to do this you'd have to attribute all jobs lost to Bush, but keep the jobs lost coming off the slowing economy on the last months of Clinton's term and attribute those to Bush as well. And then you have to downplay the promise for recovery with quantifiers like "although not as much as we would like," and blame the slow recovery on Bush as well. Apparently he was so evil that even the great and mighty Obama underestimated the evilness and couldn't overcome it.

After that....I would focus on what he has tried to do for the middle/working class. I would point out that the GOP has essentially held the middle class hostage in order to protect tax cuts for the wealthiest of Americans (the GOP Base). I would hammer home that Romney and the rest of the GOP do not care about the middle class, Obama does.

How has the GOP held the middle class hostage, and what is Obama doing differently? People are expecting answers this cycle, not just slogans like this.

I would point out Romney's failure as a Governor in Massachusetts. I would focus on the falsity of his job creation claims and how many jobs were outsourced while he was in the private corporate world.

Essentially, Obama needs to distinguish the biggest difference between himself and Romney. A vote for Romney is a vote to return to the same failed "trickle down" economic policies that fail time and again vs. a vote for Obama to continue our steady course towards economic recovery.

"Trickle down" works by putting money into gross investment, "I" in the formula GDP = C + G + I + (X - M). The stimulus attributed to Obama essentially increased "G" substantially, and moved it into "I". Basically, the stimulus IS trickle down, only instead of letting people keep their own money and put their own skin in the game, Obama took YOUR money (through inflation and interest on debt) and put YOUR skin in the game. I think people are going to see through the whole conservative/Republican/Reagonomics attacks and that letting the government pick winners and losers is far less efficient than letting people with a vested interest do it for themselves.

I mean, how is Obama's recovery plan significantly different than "business as usual," excepting of course the funneling of tax dollars directly to campaign contributors?
 
He'll do his best to convince us the economy is and has been getting better, and that he'll actually try to keep some of his promises this time. Fool me once...
 
When you say silly things like this, you are going to get called on it: PolitiFact | The Obameter: Campaign Promises that are Promise Kept

Politifact rates 187 promises kept.

Yeah, all manufactured and or wiggled into being the answer to some promise he made only to a specific crowd at some non-national event or 2,000 a plate rubber chicken dinner. Politifact got that list from the dems. It's the same old tired crap. He's even tried to claim he's made the government more transparent in keeeping with that promise. Lying sack of jawea.

Btw, I challenge you to go through that list and pull out the ones that actually fall under the president's authority. How much of that is what congress did? Almost all of it. In fact most of it was suggested or before congress before he was even a candidate. Some of it is just outright lying - the broadband stuff for one.
 
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