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AFL-CIO Pulling Funding from Obama Campaign

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AFL-CIO Pulling Funds From Obama Campaign

The AFL-CIO has told Washington Whispers it will redeploy funds away from political candidates smack dab in the middle of election season, the latest sign that the largest federation of unions in the country could be becoming increasingly disillusioned with President Obama...

The federation says the shift has been in the works for months, and had nothing to do with the president's failure to show in Wisconsin last week, where labor unions led a failed recall election of Governor Scott Walker.

"We wanted to start investing our funds in our own infrastructure and advocacy," AFL-CIO spokesman Josh Goldstein told Whispers. "There will be less contributions to candidates," including President Obama...

The AFL-CIO has been at odds with the president before Wisconsin on issues such as the public health insurance option and renewing the Bush tax cuts.

The shift in funding is significant due to the federation's role in past presidential campaigns, where the AFL-CIO built up a massive political structure in the months leading up the election, including extensive "Get Out The Vote" efforts, as well as financial contributions.

This time around, Goldstein says, the federation wants to build a more long-lasting structure, giving "different kinds of support to different candidates."...
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Huh. You think maybe someone is out $2 million that they recently sunk into a lost effort in a northern-midwestern-ish-state somewhere?

Kinda reminds one of...

The AFL-CIO, worried that President Obama's long-awaited September [2011] jobs announcement will be inadequate, is threatening to boycott the Democratic National Convention and maybe the 2012 elections unless bold action is taken to ease unemployment....
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cpwill said:
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Huh. You think maybe someone is out $2 million that they recently sunk into a lost effort in a northern-midwestern-ish-state somewhere?

Kinda reminds one of...
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Maybe they think Obama can win without their money.

A lot of Republicans are not happy that Romney will be the nominee. On top of that, Romney has turned off many independent voters by putting his foot in his mouth.
 
Or maybe they realize this?

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johnny_rebson said:
Maybe they think Obama can win without their money.
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more likely they are doing to Obama what Obama did to them in Wisconsin. Cutting ties to a sinking cause.
 
I have never seen any one so fixated on anything like cp and unions. How dare some group actually donate to democrats....
 
johnny_rebson said:
Maybe they think Obama can win without their money.

A lot of Republicans are not happy that Romney will be the nominee. On top of that, Romney has turned off many independent voters by putting his foot in his mouth.
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YOur constant pissing and moaning about Romney is past being tiring. we get it that you are mad that Santorum was a lightweight who was more liberal than Romney on most things that matter to intelligent people-his stance on Abortion is ludicrous and his comments that rape victims ought to "cherish the gift" is as stupid a comment I can imagine-it rivals anything Obama has ever said

we also get the fact that rather than getting behind the GOP candidate you are going to whine and whine and hope Obama wins so you have four more years to whine at the GOP for not picking a gay burning-abortion doctor executing social extremist
 
Oh hell yes; it's about damn time. Labor Unions have long needed to focus more on their own issues and stop tying themselves so closely to democrats in every national election. I'm not saying they shouldn't be active in the election season, but their money can be spent much more effectively elsewhere imo.
 
Redress said:
I have never seen any one so fixated on anything like cp and unions. How dare some group actually donate to democrats....
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There are two big political shifts taking place right now.

1. Conservatives are taking effective control of the Republican Party. The Civil War that really started with Reagan is in the process of being won. Combined with the earlier policy takeover of the Democrat party by it's Liberals, this marks the effective death of the Post War Consensus, and means that once again we are going to be offered actual ideological differences.

2. Democrats are slowly but surely splitting from the Unions that provided so much of their operating money, ground game, and political power. Unions (and especially public unions) have been up until now a source of support upon which Democrats have been dependent (see: Nevada, Harry Reid's Last Senate Race) upon to close the deal on election day.



Yeah. Both of those deserve notice.



But I've noticed another trend. You come into the threads to throw a barb rather than either answer the OP or provide a point of thought. Bitter much?
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
Or maybe they realize this?

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Ah yes, the downtrodden and abused labor unions could only muster a meager offering of 200 million to help advance their own policies through donations while the Koch Brothers mustered 400 million to aid their cause. At what point does one become "The Evil Thing?" as the chart implies? Is there a specific number you had in mind? Any amount larger than your own cause I'd presume. That's also ignoring the fact that the remainder of Obama's donors seem to be absent, striking the portrait of a snow driven pure "grass roots" funded campaign. So many things wrong with this picture.
 
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Well, it's also masked by the fact that most spending thus far was in the primaries... of which there was only one.


But unions have been pretty big spenders up until now. opensecrets.org has a list of the "heavy hitters" - the biggest overall political donors since 1988. Their Top Twenty list is instructive:

1 ActBlue
2 AT&T Inc
3 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees
4 National Assn of Realtors
5 National Education Assn
6 Goldman Sachs
7 Service Employees International Union
8 American Assn for Justice
9 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
10 American Federation of Teachers
11 Laborers Union
12 Teamsters Union
13 Carpenters & Joiners Union
14 Communications Workers of America
15 Citigroup Inc
16 American Medical Assn
17 United Food & Commercial Workers Union
18 United Auto Workers
19 National Auto Dealers Assn
20 Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union
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TurtleDude said:
YOur constant pissing and moaning about Romney is past being tiring.
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OMFG, really?! :2rofll:

From the guy who has whined about President Obama every day for four years!
 
AdamT said:
OMFG, really?! :2rofll:

From the guy who has whined about President Obama every day for four years!
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I guess you cannot figure out that the guy I was commenting on claims to be a Republican. You whining about Romney is a given-you are a major league Obama spokesperson so I don't find it abnormal to be whining about the guy who might give your master the boot. JR is just a santorum supporter who is mad that santorum was a crappy candidate and that Romney is not a religious fanatic
 
TurtleDude said:
I guess you cannot figure out that the guy I was commenting on claims to be a Republican. You whining about Romney is a given-you are a major league Obama spokesperson so I don't find it abnormal to be whining about the guy who might give your master the boot. JR is just a santorum supporter who is mad that santorum was a crappy candidate and that Romney is not a religious fanatic
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Ah, so he committed the sin of not toeing the party line. Got it.
 
AdamT said:
OMFG, really?! :2rofll:

From the guy who has whined about President Obama every day for four years!
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btw I didn't start complaining about Oblamer until it was obvious he was incompetent. that took about 4 weeks to figure out so maybe around February or March of 2009.

but then again you think obama's bathwater is champagne
 
AdamT said:
Ah, so he committed the sin of not toeing the party line. Got it.
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its sore loser nonsense. I would vote for santorum or the salamander if they had won the endorsement. he obviously wants Obama to win so he can whine four more years about the empty suit and the GOP for not putting an anti abortion extremist up against Oblama
 
Hare said:
Ah yes, the downtrodden and abused labor unions could only muster a meager offering of 200 million to help advance their own policies through donations while the Koch Brothers mustered 400 million to aid their cause. At what point does one become "The Evil Thing?" as the chart implies? Is there a specific number you had in mind? Any amount larger than your own cause I'd presume. That's also ignoring the fact that the remainder of Obama's donors seem to be absent, striking the portrait of a snow driven pure "grass roots" funded campaign. So many things wrong with this picture.
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The point went way over your head.
Im pointing out that is basically useless for the AFLCIO to donate because they dont
contribute $50,000 or more in any single election cycle to an official.

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TurtleDude said:
its sore loser nonsense. I would vote for santorum or the salamander if they had won the endorsement. he obviously wants Obama to win so he can whine four more years about the empty suit and the GOP for not putting an anti abortion extremist up against Oblama
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Sore loser nonsense, eh? Why are my irony alarms ringing?
 
AdamT said:
Sore loser nonsense, eh? Why are my irony alarms ringing?
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maybe because you cannot figure out the point I was making-I am not a person who whines about losing. I support the candidate who appeals to winners=Romney. Losers are what Obama needs to win elections. that is why the dems spend so much time trying to grow and expand the number of losers we have in America
 
TurtleDude said:
maybe because you cannot figure out the point I was making-I am not a person who whines about losing. I support the candidate who appeals to winners=Romney. Losers are what Obama needs to win elections. that is why the dems spend so much time trying to grow and expand the number of losers we have in America
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Yeah, electing a George Bush clone is a real recipe for success.
 
cpwill said:
Well, it's also masked by the fact that most spending thus far was in the primaries... of which there was only one.


But unions have been pretty big spenders up until now. opensecrets.org has a list of the "heavy hitters" - the biggest overall political donors since 1988. Their Top Twenty list is instructive:
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Important thing about this one is to notice the respective size of the different organizations. For example AT&T is a single company with ~200,000 employees (slight variation depending on the year), on the other hand the American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees for example is an organization of 3,500 local unions consisting of 1.4 million members.

So even if the Unions seem to have impressive numbers on that chart, their per member contribution is a LOT smaller.

In terms of the topic of the thread though, im happy Unions are withdrawing from the Democrats. Recently it seems like most of the Union's victories have been from local strike and bargaining actions rather than legislative victories. Its a lot better use of their time and money to support local direct action.
 
Redress said:
I have never seen any one so fixated on anything like cp and unions. How dare some group actually donate to democrats....
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Not all members are Democrats.
 
AdamT said:
OMFG, really?! :2rofll:

From the guy who has whined about President Obama every day for four years!
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Oh shut it Adam, you couldnt be more of a democrat puppet if Obama stuck his arm up your butt and worked your mouth with his hand.
You parrot the talking points like a recorder. I have yet to see you do much thinking for yourself or do anything other than tote the party line on anything.

About time the AFL/CIO had to work the political game like everyone else and not back dems so they can sit across the bargaining table and screw the taxpayer whose interests arent being protected in the slightest. Has it occurred to you that the reason why business interests are lining up donations to the GOP is because of the unfettered union power in the dem party?
 
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