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Bill Clinton: Romney had a "sterling" business career [W:29]

Conservative said:
You really have a bad case of BDS and cannot seem to get over it. Calling people keeping more of their own money an expense to the govt. is typical liberalism as liberals are passionate about keeping power and people dependent. The 2009 deficit was mostly Obama's not Bush's and tax cuts increased govt. revenue. Keep whining and complaining but Obama cannot run on his record and the results last night from Wisconsin should be a wake up call for you but apparently not. Bush won't be on the ballot in November but the Obama record will be and this is a making of a landslide rejection of Obama.
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Deficits go up when the economy goes south. That's natural as tax revenue largely follows the economy. When you should be concerned is when deficits go up during good times.

If you can get the economy moving tax revenue will go up, but when it falls apart (like it did in 2008) they go down. So I'm not that concerned about deficits now, what I'm concerned with is the lack of growth. My hope is that Romney can get things moving again, but I don't think he's going to do much for the deficit. If there's one thing I've learned, Republicans are only concerned about deficits when the occupant of the WH is a Democrat, and vice versa.
 
rocket88 said:
Deficits go up when the economy goes south. That's natural as tax revenue largely follows the economy. When you should be concerned is when deficits go up during good times.

If you can get the economy moving tax revenue will go up, but when it falls apart (like it did in 2008) they go down. So I'm not that concerned about deficits now, what I'm concerned with is the lack of growth. My hope is that Romney can get things moving again, but I don't think he's going to do much for the deficit. If there's one thing I've learned, Republicans are only concerned about deficits when the occupant of the WH is a Democrat, and vice versa.
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You will never get the economy moving forward demonizing and dividing people and that is what Obama has done. Just goes to show his resume was accurate in that he had no leadership skills. I didn't vote for Obama because of his resume and won't vote for him because of his record.
 
Conservative said:
You will never get the economy moving forward demonizing and dividing people and that is what Obama has done. Just goes to show his resume was accurate in that he had no leadership skills. I didn't vote for Obama because of his resume and won't vote for him because of his record.
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No, you won't be voting for him because he's a Democrat.

I did vote for him because his executive experience was about the same as McCain's. I won't be voting for him this time (probably not, anyway) because he hasn't done the job he was elected to do.
 
rocket88 said:
No, you won't be voting for him because he's a Democrat.

I did vote for him because his executive experience was about the same as McCain's. I won't be voting for him this time (probably not, anyway) because he hasn't done the job he was elected to do.
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Yep, you keep believing that as obviously his results and actions have no relevance. You obviously know me better than I know myself including my history
 
Conservative said:
You really have a bad case of BDS and cannot seem to get over it. Calling people keeping more of their own money an expense to the govt. is typical liberalism as liberals are passionate about keeping power and people dependent. The 2009 deficit was mostly Obama's not Bush's and tax cuts increased govt. revenue. Keep whining and complaining but Obama cannot run on his record and the results last night from Wisconsin should be a wake up call for you but apparently not. Bush won't be on the ballot in November but the Obama record will be and this is a making of a landslide rejection of Obama.
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The 2009 deficit was delivered by Bush via the causes outlined previously. Only you have the convoluted idea that you should blame Obama for a budget (or cost and revenue commitments) put in place before he was even elected. All conventional aligns budgets beginning with the first fiscal year AFTER a president takes office. You will note from the previous graph, $187B of the 2009 deficit can be linked to Obama, the rest is Georgies (now waiting for you to tell me its the Democratic Congress... if so, then take ownership of the current budget deficits)

Frankly, the entire deficit spending problem falls nicely on the doorstep of Bush. Again, it was his administration that started two unfunded wars (at the cost of $1T direct and $3T indirect), had the unprecedented idea of cutting taxes as he expenditures, and then grossly expanded medicare, without funding. Sorry, Cons, you can have what ever delusions you chose; your prerogative, but they are still delusions. We went from a budget under control to one that was out of control.... probably the worst demonstration of budget control by any US President, ever.... (wasn't he a businessman??? an MBA from Harvard???.... very impressive!)
 
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upsideguy;1060570643]The 2009 deficit was delivered by Bush via the causes outlined previously. Only you have the convoluted idea that you should blame Obama for a budget (or cost and revenue commitments) put in place before he was even elected. All conventional aligns budgets beginning with the first fiscal year AFTER a president takes office. You will note from the previous graph, $187B of the 2009 deficit can be linked to Obama, the rest is Georgies (now waiting for you to tell me its the Democratic Congress... if so, then take ownership of the current budget deficits)
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Budgets are guideline, budgets aren't actual spending as those are done during the year and the fiscal year of the U.S. runs from October to September. You blame budget of a deficit but ignore the budget that Bush submitted yet the budget Obama signed. Noted that in your chart tax cuts are listed as an expense. That is a lie. Please explain how Bush created the Obama stimulus, supplementals? Typical liberal bs.

Frankly, the entire deficit spending problem falls nicely on the doorstep of Bush. Again, it was his administration that started two unfunded wars (at the cost of $1T direct and $3T indirect), had the unprecedented idea of cutting taxes as he expenditures, and then grossly expanded medicare, without funding. Sorry, Cons, you can have what ever delusions you chose; your prerogative, but they are still delusions. We went from a budget under control to one that was out of control.... probably the worst demonstration of budget control by any US President, ever.... (wasn't he a businessman??? an MBA from Harvard???.... very impressive!)
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Sorry, but it does appear that you have a case of BDS and ignore reality. Bush raised the debt from 5.7 trillion to 10.6 trillion and that includes the cost of the wars. Obama has taken the debt to 15.8 trillion in less than 4years. Upsideguy, you have a problem
 
upsideguy said:
The 2009 deficit was delivered by Bush via the causes outlined previously. Only you have the convoluted idea that you should blame Obama for a budget (or cost and revenue commitments) put in place before he was even elected. All conventional aligns budgets beginning with the first fiscal year AFTER a president takes office. You will note from the previous graph, $187B of the 2009 deficit can be linked to Obama, the rest is Georgies (now waiting for you to tell me its the Democratic Congress... if so, then take ownership of the current budget deficits)

Frankly, the entire deficit spending problem falls nicely on the doorstep of Bush. Again, it was his administration that started two unfunded wars (at the cost of $1T direct and $3T indirect), had the unprecedented idea of cutting taxes as he expenditures, and then grossly expanded medicare, without funding. Sorry, Cons, you can have what ever delusions you chose; your prerogative, but they are still delusions. We went from a budget under control to one that was out of control.... probably the worst demonstration of budget control by any US President, ever.... (wasn't he a businessman??? an MBA from Harvard???.... very impressive!)
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The Bush deficit exploded in his last year. That would be the one in which he tried to Stimulate the economy through Keynesian spending, and then bailed out the banks and the auto industry. If you think those are policies that conservatives support, you haven't been paying attention.
 
Travis007 said:
I heard that.. thats so fantastic.. what a joke the Dems are. Clinton hates Obama... I think thats pretty clear once again
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I saw a tape of Clinton the other night preaching on behalf of Obama in Cleveland Ohio. He was in normal high gear and did a great job extolling the virtues of the President.
 
upsideguy said:
The 2009 deficit was delivered by Bush via the causes outlined previously. Only you have the convoluted idea that you should blame Obama for a budget (or cost and revenue commitments) put in place before he was even elected. All conventional aligns budgets beginning with the first fiscal year AFTER a president takes office. You will note from the previous graph, $187B of the 2009 deficit can be linked to Obama, the rest is Georgies (now waiting for you to tell me its the Democratic Congress... if so, then take ownership of the current budget deficits)

Frankly, the entire deficit spending problem falls nicely on the doorstep of Bush. Again, it was his administration that started two unfunded wars (at the cost of $1T direct and $3T indirect), had the unprecedented idea of cutting taxes as he expenditures, and then grossly expanded medicare, without funding. Sorry, Cons, you can have what ever delusions you chose; your prerogative, but they are still delusions. We went from a budget under control to one that was out of control.... probably the worst demonstration of budget control by any US President, ever.... (wasn't he a businessman??? an MBA from Harvard???.... very impressive!)
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Bush didnt sign the ****in thing, Obama did. Bush would have been responsible for 400B of debt on the 2009 budget, Obama got the other 1.2 trillion, because the inflated budget was handed to him by the dem congress marked up 400B from what Bush proposed, and stimulus was both signed and administered by the Obama administration. You libs on this site need to stop pushing that talking point, its false. Ill ask you directly, who signed the 2009 budget, thereby being responsible for it? What was the projected deficit of the proposed budget by the Bush administration?

9/11 and the DotCom bubble kind of kicked revenue in the teeth in 2001.
 
upsideguy said:
The 2009 deficit was delivered by Bush via the causes outlined previously. Only you have the convoluted idea that you should blame Obama for a budget (or cost and revenue commitments) put in place before he was even elected. All conventional aligns budgets beginning with the first fiscal year AFTER a president takes office. You will note from the previous graph, $187B of the 2009 deficit can be linked to Obama, the rest is Georgies (now waiting for you to tell me its the Democratic Congress... if so, then take ownership of the current budget deficits)

Frankly, the entire deficit spending problem falls nicely on the doorstep of Bush. Again, it was his administration that started two unfunded wars (at the cost of $1T direct and $3T indirect), had the unprecedented idea of cutting taxes as he expenditures, and then grossly expanded medicare, without funding. Sorry, Cons, you can have what ever delusions you chose; your prerogative, but they are still delusions. We went from a budget under control to one that was out of control.... probably the worst demonstration of budget control by any US President, ever.... (wasn't he a businessman??? an MBA from Harvard???.... very impressive!)
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Wait...I thought presidents werent the ones that made deficits...and it was congress that passed every spending bill ever presented.
 
cpwill said:
The Bush deficit exploded in his last year. That would be the one in which he tried to Stimulate the economy through Keynesian spending, and then bailed out the banks and the auto industry. If you think those are policies that conservatives support, you haven't been paying attention.
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That is what makes it so hard to deal with the Obama robots as they have no understanding of the budget vs actual spending nor the dates of that fiscal year spending. Their argument defies logic and not one can explain the Obama stimulus, Obama spending of TARP, the benefits of repayment to the deficit, the recycling of that money by the Obama Administrtion, and the supplementals Obama signed for the Afghanistan War. Apparently those are the responsibility of Bush as well or so the robots want to believe.
 
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