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Romney is a keynsian

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So Romney is running around talking how irresponsible the president is, spending all this money. No doubt a president Romney would put a quick end to that, right?

Err ... no so much as it turns out. As in so many cases,* what a president Romney would do is what President Obama is doing.

Boehner, carrying the Tea Party line on spending, recently said that he would insist that the deficit be cut by a dollar for every dollar increase in the debt limit, or else he would refuse to raise it, helping drive the country toward default.

"When the time comes, I will again insist on my simple principle of cuts and reforms greater than the debt limit increase," Boehner said.
"Dealing with our deficit and our debt would help create more economic growth in the United States," Boehner told George Stephanopolous Sunday on ABC's "This Week." "The issue is the debt."

Romney, however, said that pushing drastic spending cuts during shaky economic times is a prescription for "recession or depression."
Asked by Time's Mark Halperin Wednesday why he wouldn't push major cuts in his first year, Romney responded with reasoning that would be largely uncontroversial if not for the past two years' mainstreaming of an economic philosophy that insists government spending actually costs jobs, rather than creates job.

"Well because, if you take a trillion dollars for instance, out of the first year of the federal budget, that would shrink GDP over 5 percent. That is by definition throwing us into recession or depression. So I'm not going to do that, of course," Romney said in an answer picked up by former bank regulator William Black, a HuffPost blogger.

Boehner, by contrast, said cutting spending will spur the economy by giving "certainty" to the business community. "It would lift this cloud of uncertainty that's causing employers to wonder what's next. So dealing with our debt and our deficit are critically important," he said.

Any spending cuts, Romney said, should come down the road, after the economy has improved.

"I don't want to have us go into a recession in order to balance the budget," he said. "I'd like to have us have high rates of growth at the same time we bring down federal spending, on, if you will, a ramp that’s affordable, but that does not cause us to enter into a economic decline."

Romney's reasoning accepts the basic premise that government spending adds to GDP and leads to economic growth, at least during times when consumer spending and private-sector demand is down.
The economic assertion is supported by the post-recession job creation numbers. Under President Obama, government spending has grown at its slowest rate since the Eisenhower Administration, according to Politifact. Predictably, that has led to a slower recovery and -- ironically for a president who called for belt-tightening as a political response to the Tea Party -- political trouble for his reelection.

Romney Argues Big Spending Cuts Would Cause 'Depression,' Contrary To Tea Party Activists
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So Mitt dishonestly calls out Obama for increasing spending, but says that, like Obama, he wouldn't cut a lot of spending untilt he economy is on solid ground.

He runs around the country bashing the stimulus, claiming it made things worse ... and then admits that that level of spending increased GDP, thus ending the recession.

So on the one hand, it's good to see that someone who could win in November is in touch with reality, but on the other hand, it's just further evidence that he is astonishingly dishonest.


* Romney, of course, is also running around mouthing off about Obama's record on unemployment. In his big unemployment statement, Romney claims that HE would lower unemployment to around 6% at the end of his first term. Of course, that is just about where unemployment is presently projected to be in four years under Obama's policies.... :roll:
 
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Bush = Obusha = Obamney

Seen one, seen them all really. Print and spend while cutting taxes for political gain.
 
Romney is a Mormon, not a Mexican and IMHO, that's not a bad thing. I am personally non-religious but I live in Mormon Central and I have a very good opinion of them as being sincere and caring.

I actually wouldn't mind giving Romney a shot. I'd have to hope he doesn't let his party's social primitiveness move in with him. As an administrator, he'd probably be a little better than Obama. I don't think I can vote for either of them but I'm not going to vote against either of them.
 
Oh.... a keynsian.


Okay.



I thought you said lesbian....

Never mind.


:mrgreen:
 
Don't do genealogy with some Mormons, they will lie thru their teeth to get your family history.
 
muciti said:
So you are saying you like Romney or you dislike Obama? I am confused.
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He is saying that while Romney can speak intelligently in private, or in certain one-on-one situations, when on the stump he has to pander to the collective Tea Party stupidity that has become the GOP.
 
And this surprises who exactly?
 
Romney is a keynsian

So, is he from Kenya?
:lamo
 
AdamT said:
So Romney is running around talking how irresponsible the president is, spending all this money. No doubt a president Romney would put a quick end to that, right?

Err ... no so much as it turns out. As in so many cases,* what a president Romney would do is what President Obama is doing.



So Mitt dishonestly calls out Obama for increasing spending, but says that, like Obama, he wouldn't cut a lot of spending untilt he economy is on solid ground.

He runs around the country bashing the stimulus, claiming it made things worse ... and then admits that that level of spending increased GDP, thus ending the recession.

So on the one hand, it's good to see that someone who could win in November is in touch with reality, but on the other hand, it's just further evidence that he is astonishingly dishonest.


* Romney, of course, is also running around mouthing off about Obama's record on unemployment. In his big unemployment statement, Romney claims that HE would lower unemployment to around 6% at the end of his first term. Of course, that is just about where unemployment is presently projected to be in four years under Obama's policies.... :roll:
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Seems like you are having to re-write the script for the reason to vote for a failed president. You find that the label of right wing extremist will not work with Romney so you have to try something else out.

A couple of weeks ago it was your "war on women" which people took it for the farce it was.
Last week it was cruel businessman, folks said that won't work.
This week dishonest.

Maybe we should have a poll. What should the pro-Obama folks try week:

a. Is he really a Christian?
b. Was he born in Mexico?
c. What do his children do for a living
d. Write in your favorite conspiracy of the week.
 
AdamT said:
So Romney is running around talking how irresponsible the president is, spending all this money. No doubt a president Romney would put a quick end to that, right?

Err ... no so much as it turns out. As in so many cases,* what a president Romney would do is what President Obama is doing.



So Mitt dishonestly calls out Obama for increasing spending, but says that, like Obama, he wouldn't cut a lot of spending untilt he economy is on solid ground.

He runs around the country bashing the stimulus, claiming it made things worse ... and then admits that that level of spending increased GDP, thus ending the recession.

So on the one hand, it's good to see that someone who could win in November is in touch with reality, but on the other hand, it's just further evidence that he is astonishingly dishonest.


* Romney, of course, is also running around mouthing off about Obama's record on unemployment. In his big unemployment statement, Romney claims that HE would lower unemployment to around 6% at the end of his first term. Of course, that is just about where unemployment is presently projected to be in four years under Obama's policies.... :roll:
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What I love is how he says cutting a trillion dollars would automatically make it a recessions so it would be bad, without considering whether that trillion dollars is actually economic activity or just digits of code. Of course, Romney would probably not achieve anything with spending cuts because he would cut all the wrong things and keep the stuff that actually is just a drain on our dollars.
 
washunut said:
Seems like you are having to re-write the script for the reason to vote for a failed president. You find that the label of right wing extremist will not work with Romney so you have to try something else out.

A couple of weeks ago it was your "war on women" which people took it for the farce it was.
Last week it was cruel businessman, folks said that won't work.
This week dishonest.

Maybe we should have a poll. What should the pro-Obama folks try week:

a. Is he really a Christian?
b. Was he born in Mexico?
c. What do his children do for a living
d. Write in your favorite conspiracy of the week.
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For a "liberal" you really like romney. Its true romney is a liberal.
 
99percenter said:
His dad was born in mexico. That means he acquired mexican citizenship through his father. Therefore he is mexican.
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i think the term you are looking for is eligible for mexican citizenship,not has.

i get tired of hearing of birther conspiracies.btw he would be a white hispanic,calling him mexican sounds awefully racist:roll:
 
beerftw said:
i think the term you are looking for is eligible for mexican citizenship,not has.

i get tired of hearing of birther conspiracies.btw he would be a white hispanic,calling him mexican sounds awefully racist:roll:
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LOL. Okay. Calling a mexican a mexican is racist? seriously. Well if i called him a beaner you would have a point. But mexican. Cmon man. Are we so politically correct that we cant even mention someone's nationality? Mitt Romney is a proud mexican. I have nothing against mexicans. bill richardson is a mexican american and i would vote for him. But romney is just plain mexican and an illegal immigrant so i wont for him.
 
99percenter said:
LOL. Okay. Calling a mexican a mexican is racist? seriously. Well if i called him a beaner you would have a point. But mexican. Cmon man. Are we so politically correct that we cant even mention someone's nationality? Mitt Romney is a proud mexican. I have nothing against mexicans. bill richardson is a mexican american and i would vote for him. But romney is just plain mexican and an illegal immigrant so i wont for him.
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bolded area,try and bring up obamas origins without being called racist,get my point,or do you not understand which you practice?
 
beerftw said:
bolded area,try and bring up obamas origins without being called racist,get my point,or do you not understand which you practice?
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Nothing wrong with that. Obama is a proud kenyan american. But unlike romney he is a native born citizen and eligible for the presidency. Now romney is a mexican. Now if he wants to be a mexican american he needs to show a certificate of naturalization. i hope that clears it up. He would still be ineligible to be president.
 
99percenter said:
Nothing wrong with that. Obama is a proud kenyan american. But unlike romney he is a native born citizen and eligible for the presidency. Now romney is a mexican. Now if he wants to be a mexican american he needs to show a certificate of naturalization. i hope that clears it up. He would still be ineligible to be president.
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was romney born in mexico?????

because if only his father was and romney was born stateside he is a natural born citizen.

besides that as far as i know romneys mother was a legal citizen when he was born,therefore that under all legality makes him a us citizen,not a mexican citizen.
 
beerftw said:
was romney born in mexico?????

because if only his father was and romney was born stateside he is a natural born citizen.

besides that as far as i know romneys mother was a legal citizen when he was born,therefore that under all legality makes him a us citizen,not a mexican citizen.
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Try explaining that to the birthers on obama.
 
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