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Cory Booker: ‘I’m Very Uncomfortable’ With Attacks On Bain

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And who is Cory Booker? He is a prominent Obama supporter who has from time to time acted as an Obama campaign surrogate. And he makes a good point:

Booker Blames ‘Both Sides’: ‘Stop Attacking Private Equity. Stop Attacking Jeremiah Wright’ | TPM2012

As far as that stuff, I have to just say from a very personal level I’m not about to sit here and indict private equity.

To me it’s just we’re getting to a ridiculous point in America, especially that I know I live in a state where pension funds, unions and other people are investing in companies like Bain Capital. If you look at the totality of Bain Capital’s record they’ve done a lot to support businesses, to grow businesses. And this to me, I’m very uncomfortable with.
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There is truth to this. If Romney gets the whole picture out there, Obama loses this issue. Bain did not do anything wrong, and it was successful. Of course, Booker makes some other good points:

Stop attacking private equity, stop attacking Jeremiah Wright. This stuff has got to stop, because what it does is it undermines, to me, what this country should be focused on. It’s a distraction from the real issues. It’s either going to be a small campaign about this crap or it’s going to be a big campaign, in my opinion, about the issues that the American public cares about
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This is something we all should be looking at. We should stop with spreading the talking points and spinning things to fit the narrative we want to get out. We should fact check, and not ignore fact checks that do not result how we want them. If we, the people, start holding politicians responsible for what they say, and hold lies and spin against them, no matter what party they are in, then maybe, just maybe, politicians will start to work for us. Romney is not some rich guy who wants to crush the middle class to make a buck for the wealthy elite. Obama is neither a socialist, a communist, nor a Muslim, nor does he go by his middle name. It is time to stop the over the top rhetoric, and to police not just the other side, but our own.
 
I think it's fair game for Obama to attack Romney's record at Bain, give the fact that Romney is basing much of his credibility on his performance at Bain.

Jim Cramer -- not exactly a hardcore Democrat -- agrees.

 
AdamT said:
I think it's fair game for Obama to attack Romney's record at Bain, give the fact that Romney is basing much of his credibility on his performance at Bain.

Jim Cramer -- not exactly a hardcore Democrat -- agrees.

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I agree as long as he sticks with the facts, and doesn't mischaracterize it.
 
Mayor Cory Booker clarifies his statements he made Sunday on MTP on YouTube:


“Let me be clear. Mitt Romney has made his business record a centerpiece of his campaign,” he says in the video. “He’s talked about himself as a job creator. And therefore it is reasonable — and in fact I encourage it — for the Obama campaign to examine that record and discuss it. I have no problem with that.”

For good measure, Booker goes on to endorse the Obama ad’s message.

“In fact, I believe that Mitt Romney, in many ways, is not being completely honest with his role and his record even while a businessperson, and is shaping it to serve his political interest — and not necessary include all the facts of his time there,” continues the mayor, sitting at his desk with a flag draped in the camera shot.​



Fast Forward to the 2:00 mark.



Newark Mayor Booker Backtracks After Defending Romney Against Obama | TPM2012
 
AdamT said:
I think it's fair game for Obama to attack Romney's record at Bain, give the fact that Romney is basing much of his credibility on his performance at Bain.

Jim Cramer -- not exactly a hardcore Democrat -- agrees.
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I do believe that Jim is actually a democrat. So...
 
pbrauer said:
Mayor Cory Booker clarifies his statements he made Sunday on MTP on YouTube:

“Let me be clear. Mitt Romney has made his business record a centerpiece of his campaign,” he says in the video. “He’s talked about himself as a job creator. And therefore it is reasonable — and in fact I encourage it — for the Obama campaign to examine that record and discuss it. I have no problem with that.”

For good measure, Booker goes on to endorse the Obama ad’s message.

“In fact, I believe that Mitt Romney, in many ways, is not being completely honest with his role and his record even while a businessperson, and is shaping it to serve his political interest — and not necessary include all the facts of his time there,” continues the mayor, sitting at his desk with a flag draped in the camera shot.​
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Obama's campaign probably **** a brick when they saw his original comments. I can imagine the mad dash as they scramble to the phone to call Corey and make sure he understands what he has to do.
 
It would be inaccurate to say that the Obama ad is an honest portrayal of Bain's record in relation to Romney. Booker's statements conveniently fail to accurately criticize what's actually happening, regardless of which one you read.
 
lpast said:
I think Romney has been the king of inaccurate attack ads, against other republicans and obama....


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...18/politifacts-guide-mitt-romneys-flip-flops/
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I'm sorry, I don't appreciate "tit-for-tat" behavior in my candidates. It's unacceptable when Romney does it and unacceptable when Obama does. Given that they'll do it regardless, I am more upset by those that justify it by pointing their finger at the other guy. It's disturbingly immature discourse and "he did it first!" doesn't cut it.
 
It is nice to see how many people missed the ****ing point. Well, not really but at least it was predictable.
 
Redress said:
It is nice to see how many people missed the ****ing point. Well, not really but at least it was predictable.
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The point being so obvious, I think most folks just ignored it.
 
AdamT said:
The point being so obvious, I think most folks just ignored it.
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we got it.. liberals double deal in hypocrisy.. we got the point..it was not lost on us...
 
AdamT said:
I think it's fair game for Obama to attack Romney's record at Bain, give the fact that Romney is basing much of his credibility on his performance at Bain.

Jim Cramer -- not exactly a hardcore Democrat -- agrees.

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What makes you sat that Cramer isn't a democrat???
 
washunut said:
What makes you sat that Cramer isn't a democrat???
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its new to me also... but Libs.. you know.. the facts they use are made up for propoganda purposes...
 
Travis007 said:
its new to me also... but Libs.. you know.. the facts they use are made up for propoganda purposes...
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Sometimes you just have to laugh at the crap written on this site.
 
washunut said:
What makes you sat that Cramer isn't a democrat???
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I said he isn't exactly "a hard-core Democrat". What makes me say that is my recollection that he was very critical of Obama during his first year or two. I also generally don't associate Democrat with Goldman Sachs employee, former hedge fund manager. But I don't know what his actual registration is, or if he's registered at all.
 
AdamT said:
I said he isn't exactly "a hard-core Democrat". What makes me say that is my recollection that he was very critical of Obama during his first year or two. I also generally don't associate Democrat with Goldman Sachs employee, former hedge fund manager. But I don't know what his actual registration is, or if he's registered at all.
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you aren't excalty "hard core " with facts...is about all I and many others see..
 
AdamT said:
I said he isn't exactly "a hard-core Democrat". What makes me say that is my recollection that he was very critical of Obama during his first year or two. I also generally don't associate Democrat with Goldman Sachs employee, former hedge fund manager. But I don't know what his actual registration is, or if he's registered at all.
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Not agreeing with Obama like a bobble head doll, just makes him not a lemming does not mean he is not a good democrat. Sort of the same problem you have with my posts. many hedge fund managers are hard core democrats using your logic, including a couple of fundraisers held in NYC last week. As I understand it one dinner was at the home of a hedge fund manager and it cost $38K per person.

Interesting, we have the media talking about the republican party getting extremist because they want purity and here you are saying that Cramer is not a good/true democrat because he does not act like an Obama bobble head doll on TV.
 
Redress said:
It is nice to see how many people missed the ****ing point. Well, not really but at least it was predictable.
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The point is that he stuck his foot in his mouth and Romney will try to shove it up Obama's ass. In my opinion, he should not have mention the Rev. Wright stuff either, it didn't work in 2008 and it won't work today.

(Just saw an Romney ad on Hardball using the clip of Booker on MTP.}
 
Tucker Case said:
It's been time to do this for decades. This is why some of us have embraced cynicism.
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After watching this thread draw the most over the top blind to reality hyper-partisans, I might have to try that cynicism.. Then I remember my sig quote and think mabye these are just the vocal minority.
 
Redress said:
After watching this thread draw the most over the top blind to reality hyper-partisans, I might have to try that cynicism.. Then I remember my sig quote and think mabye these are just the vocal minority.
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The problem is that the "silent" majority is more interested in their dinner and what's on TV after dinner.

As the Roman satirist Juvenal so aptly put it almost two millenia ago:

...Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time handed out military command, high civil office, legions — everything, now restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things: bread and circuses. - Juvenal
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Redress said:
After watching this thread draw the most over the top blind to reality hyper-partisans, I might have to try that cynicism.. Then I remember my sig quote and think mabye these are just the vocal minority.
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its going to do so because while attempting to highlight what CB was saying, getting a couple of conservtives to like or agree, then the hard core on the left knee jerk and go on attack mode or go hyper defense mode. then the conservatives go back on the attack or hyper defense mode and on and on. I agree with you on point that conservatives and liberals alike need to keep their own yards taken care of. nasty weeds can start growing and will take up needed nutrients and root space for the grass that we want.
 
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