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Ten reasons why I am not voting for Romney

Peter King said:
Environmentalist extremists might be left wing nut jobs, but the current protection for the environment are sane and necessary protective rules which should not be abolished for making a few fast bucks that we will later regret.



Why save that much money on either, make rich and filthy rich people pay the fair share that they should pay and a lot of the US's financial problems would go away. Fiscal responsibility is nice and needed but by just cutting those programs which protect the people who need it most is just foolish and will lead to disaster.



You mean he is a power hungry buddy to big business? He could care less for success. Romney has always been about his ridiculous cult and money money money money. He is the ultimate example of anti-success because for him to have success (read money and power) he has doomed thousands and thousands to utter misery.



There is nothing socialist about universal health care, there is something anti-social though about opposing it so vehemently as the republicans have been doing.



How is it bashing the rich if you expect them to pay their fair part? How is it fair if someone as filthy rich as Romney has to pay less taxes than a cop or fire-fighter?



There is no need to execute anyone, it is not a deterrent for crime, it is just some vindictive exercise of government licensed murder. Life in jail is every bit as justified and maybe even a worse punishment than death.



Why not in jails in the US? Or are you afraid water boarding and stuff like that would be prohibited there?



No, fiscal responsibility can remedy that.



You might say, parasites know a fellow parasite like Romney, who lives off the hard work of others and bleeds it dry for making a lot of cash and then plunging the people he bled dry into unemployment and poverty.



I think Kagan was a good choice and won the support of 63 of the 100 senators, including several republicans, you might not like her but I guess that is 95% political bias.

also we should drill in the AWR

And no, we should not drill in the AWR if this is not also combined with oil reducing measures and every possible protective measure to ensure no environmental protection and if it is found out to devastating to the environment it should be halted.
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we get it-Eurosocialists support Obama. drilling the the AWR is a Eurosocialist issue?
 
maiseycat said:
Oh, his friend who wrote a book. Great source. You're the one re-writing history, babe. Anyway, again, why do you care? What do you have against the Catholic Church? Why do you want in it so bad if you hate it? Get back to the issue, my original post, at least. Come on. I TRIED to get 99percenter to do that. You guys got nothing...
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This is a church that thinks condoms make the HIV problem worse and women who use contraception will go to hell. It also hates gays and blames them for their problems. Im sorry but gays are the reason your priests are pedophiles.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
On January 22, 2009, US President Barack Obama signed an executive order requiring the CIA to use only the 19 interrogation methods outlined in the United States Army Field Manual "unless the Attorney General with appropriate consultation provides further guidance". The order also provided that "The CIA shall close as expeditiously as possible any detention facilities that it currently operates and shall not operate any such detention facility in the future."[109][44]
On March 5, 2009, Bloomberg News reported that the United States Senate intelligence committee was beginning a one-year inquiry in the CIA's detention program.[110]

In April, 2009, CIA director Leon Panetta announced that the "CIA no longer operates detention facilities or black sites", in a letter to staff and that "[r]emaining sites would be decommissioned". He also announced that the CIA was no longer allowing outside "contractors" to carry out interrogations and that the CIA no longer employed controversial "harsh interrogation techniques
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Ill see your 2009 and raise you....

BBC News - Red Cross confirms 'second jail' at Bagram, Afghanistan

Shocking right? Like GITMO not only is it still open, its expanded. Hey...thats not a bad thing. Naive pandering candidate Obama has walked back a TON of his 'promises' and instead adopted Bush's tactics...even expanded on them...which is why I have CONSISTENTLY given him major props for his efforts in the war on terror.
 
Voltaire X said:
1. He wants to repeal all sorts of environmental protection legislation
2. He wants to increase the already way too high defense budget
3. He panders to whoever is in the room. He contradicts himself all the time in order to tell people what they want to hear.
4. He is against universal healthcare
5. He is against gay marriage and has conservative stances on other social issues
6. He supports the prison at Guantanamo Bay and thinks it should be expanded
7. He tried to reinstate the death penalty in Massachusetts when he was governor
8. He was against the building of a wind farm in Cape Cod because it would create a "visual detriment", but supports allowing oil drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge in Alaska
9. His views on foreign policy are incredibly outdated. He thinks that Russia is still our #1 geopolitical enemy.
10. His ideas on how the tax code should be changed would favor the wealthiest Americans while hurting everyone else
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Here are the reasons I will be voting for Romney

Poor economic growth and dismal economy, CURL: The truly dismal state of the union - Washington Times

More people unemployed than when Obama took office, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Fewer people employed than when Obama took office, Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

23 million unemployed and under employed Americans, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Fewer people in the labor force, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

6 trillion added to the debt and trillion dollar deficits, Government - Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

Hundreds of thousands discouraged workers

Class warfare, forced wealth redistribution, Carter style economic malaise including gridlock in Congress, Senate and House in a Blame Game Over Stalled Jobs Legislation - ABC News

Crony Capitalism

Green energy companies going bankrupt, Solar company that Obama visited will shut down | Reuters
Government Motors and Obamacare

Chrysler being sold to an Italian firm

Debt exceeding our yearly GDP and downgrade of credit rating

Rhetoric trumping substance, repeat, rinse, and repeat again, Familiar Rhetoric, Failed Record - YouTube

Poverty at record levels, Report: Poverty hits record level - MJ Lee - POLITICO.com

"Fast and Furious" and "Wide Receiver"
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In addition

• After going to both Harvard Business School and Harvard Law School simultaneously, he passed the Michigan bar, but never worked as an attorney.
• As a venture-capitalist, Romney's first major business deal involved investing in a start-up office supply company with one store in Massachusetts that sold office supplies. That company, called Staples, now has over 2,000 stores and employs over 90,000 people.
• Romney or his company Bain Capital (using what became known as the "Bain Way") would go on to perform the same kinds of business miracles again and again, with companies like Domino's, Sealy, Brookstone, Weather Channel, Burger King, Warner Music Group, Dollarama, Home Depot Supply, and many others.

Got your calculators handy? Let's recap.

• Volunteer campaign worker for his dad's gubernatorial campaign for one year.
• Unpaid intern in Michigan Governor's office: eight years.
• Mormon missionary in Paris: 2 years.
• Unpaid bishop and stake president for his church: 10 years.
• No salary as president of the Olympics: Three years.
• No salary as MA Governor: Four years.

That's a grand total of 28 years of unpaid service to his country, his community and his church. Why? Because that's the kind of man Mitt Romney is.

And you know what? He’ll happily show you his:

• Un-doctored Birth Certificate!
• College transcripts!
• Law degree!
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99percenter said:
Odd part is romney and obama have the same health care plan.
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No they don't Romney's plan was a state plan and Obama's is a national one size fits all. Sorry you cannot see the difference
 
Conservative said:
Here are the reasons I will be voting for Romney





In addition
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You'll be voting for romney because you are a liberal. He was prochoice record. He spent money. He raised taxes. He invented obamacare. Romney is to the left of obama.
 
Voltaire X said:
1. He wants to repeal all sorts of environmental protection legislation
2. He wants to increase the already way too high defense budget
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This is much like the "Obama is going to take away our guns" panic, based on supposed partisan goals rather than on anything the candidate has actually said or done.

Voltaire X said:
3. He panders to whoever is in the room. He contradicts himself all the time in order to tell people what they want to hear.
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this is true.

Ron Paul, on the other hand, is consistently on the same message. Ron Paul has zero chance of being elected. I'm beginning to suspect a cause and effect relationship here.

Voltaire X said:
4. He is against universal healthcare
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and yet he supported it as governor. My suspicion is that he's against whatever Obama is for.

Voltaire X said:
5. He is against gay marriage and has conservative stances on other social issues
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Can't argue with that one.

Voltaire X said:
6. He supports the prison at Guantanamo Bay and thinks it should be expanded
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see my response to 1 and 2.

Voltaire X said:
7. He tried to reinstate the death penalty in Massachusetts when he was governor
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so, does t hat mean he's going to reinstate the death penalty at the federal level? I was not aware that it needed reinstating.

Voltaire X said:
8. He was against the building of a wind farm in Cape Cod because it would create a "visual detriment", but supports allowing oil drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge in Alaska
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OK, two issues on which you're on opposite sides.

Are you sure that's where he stands, though? Remember #3

Voltaire X said:
9. His views on foreign policy are incredibly outdated. He thinks that Russia is still our #1 geopolitical enemy.
10. His ideas on how the tax code should be changed would favor the wealthiest Americans while hurting everyone else
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back to my response to #1 and 2 here.
 
99percenter said:
You'll be voting for romney because you are a liberal. He was prochoice record. He spent money. He raised taxes. He invented obamacare. Romney is to the left of obama.
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lol...careful, the smoke will start rolling out of his ears any minute now...lol
 
99percenter said:
You'll be voting for romney because you are a liberal. He was prochoice record. He spent money. He raised taxes. He invented obamacare. Romney is to the left of obama.
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No, sorry, Romney hasn't promoted class warfare and class envy nor has Romney demonized rich and claimed that a certain class wasn't paying their fair share. Romney knows how the economy works and Obama still doesn't have a clue. Obama is the most devisive President I have ever seen
 
Conservative said:
No, sorry, Romney hasn't promoted class warfare and class envy nor has Romney demonized rich and claimed that a certain class wasn't paying their fair share. Romney knows how the economy works and Obama still doesn't have a clue. Obama is the most devisive President I have ever seen
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You're liberalism is unbelievable. There is no way a self-proclaimed conservative can vote for a liberal to the left of kennedy.
 
99percenter said:
You're liberalism is unbelievable. There is no way a self-proclaimed conservative can vote for a liberal to the left of kennedy.
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Given the choice of Romney vs Obama a conservative would be out of their mind ot give Obama another four years. This country simply cannot afford it
 
Conservative said:
Given the choice of Romney vs Obama a conservative would be out of their mind ot give Obama another four years. This country simply cannot afford it
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The conservatives cant afford romney's liberal policies. Under his presidency the deficit will skyrocket. Romney is the most liberal candidate to ever run for president. He is even to liberal for me. Since you support him i have no choice but the assume you are liberal.
 
Conservative said:
No, sorry, Romney hasn't promoted class warfare and class envy nor has Romney demonized rich and claimed that a certain class wasn't paying their fair share. Romney knows how the economy works and Obama still doesn't have a clue. Obama is the most devisive President I have ever seen
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ah yes... more slogans....no argument, but more slogans..class warfare blah blah blah class envy blah blah blah...
 
99percenter said:
The conservatives cant afford romney's liberal policies. Under his presidency the deficit will skyrocket. Romney is the most liberal candidate to ever run for president. He is even to liberal for me. Since you support him i have no choice but the assume you are liberal.
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That is your opinion and from someone who doesn't understand the impact on a growing economy to govt. revenue. By the way how much do you believe the 23 million unemployed/under employed Americans are paying in FIT?
 
randel said:
ah yes... more slogans....no argument, but more slogans..class warfare blah blah blah class envy blah blah blah...
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Guess the UAW Times doesn't report Obama speeched about the rich not paying their fair share when 47% of income earning families pay zero in FIT
 
Conservative said:
Guess the UAW Times doesn't report Obama speeched about the rich not paying their fair share when 47% of income earning families pay zero in FIT
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just another clue for you, when you bring up my union membership, not only does it bring a smile to my face, UAW and proud of it, but it is the same thing as you admitting defeat, as you have no argument, and can only attempt to bait me. yes con, i'm a member of the uaw, and that is a good thing.
 
99percenter said:
Yes some of them were lutheran but christian none the less. The holocaust was one of the most heinous crimes ever committed by Christianity.
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You are really out in left field on this one 99.... you are a 1percenter on your thinking here.

First, there was nothing Christian about Hitler. Many people call themselves Christians, but are not. Take the US, for example, 80% of people call themselves Christian. The real Christian population of the US is actually a very small subset of that. The rest of them are cultural Christians. If America truly was Christian, our political debate and budget discussions would be incredibly different.

Then, even if a person declares himself Christian or American, that individuals actions speak only for the individual. They do not speak for a theology or country.

Clearly there was nothing even remotely Christian about the holocaust. Let's start with the fact that God's promise is to the Jews and Christians are merely grafted to the vine; God's grace was extended to Gentiles. Real Christians would consider Jews their brothers and sisters, not their enemy or a threat.

Calling the holocaust one of the most "heinous crimes ever committed by Christianity" is somewhere between absurd and ignorant. It was one of the most heinous crimes ever committed by man, by a nation, by a political system, but it was not committed by a religion.
 
Maybe I have missed it but a point that should not be overlooked is that Romney was actually ABLE TO GET THINGS DONE, in a legislature controlled by the other party. While his leaning are more right than I would prefer, he is less an ideologue and more of someone who wants to get things done and will compromise to do it.

That may be a bad thing to many people, but if Obama has proven anything it is that " my way or the highway" approach is a lousy way to govern ( or try to).
 
upsideguy said:
You are really out in left field on this one 99.... you are a 1percenter on your thinking here.

First, there was nothing Christian about Hitler. Many people call themselves Christians, but are not. Take the US, for example, 80% of people call themselves Christian. The real Christian population of the US is actually a very small subset of that. The rest of them are cultural Christians. If America truly was Christian, our political debate and budget discussions would be incredibly different.

Then, even if a person declares himself Christian or American, that individuals actions speak only for the individual. They do not speak for a theology or country.

Clearly there was nothing even remotely Christian about the holocaust. Let's start with the fact that God's promise is to the Jews and Christians are merely grafted to the vine; God's grace was extended to Gentiles. Real Christians would consider Jews their brothers and sisters, not their enemy or a threat.

Calling the holocaust one of the most "heinous crimes ever committed by Christianity" is somewhere between absurd and ignorant. It was one of the most heinous crimes ever committed by man, by a nation, by a political system, but it was not committed by a religion.
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If thats the case we cannot blame muslims for 9-11. I'm sure many of them find those kind of acts despicable.
 
washunut said:
Maybe I have missed it but a point that should not be overlooked is that Romney was actually ABLE TO GET THINGS DONE, in a legislature controlled by the other party. While his leaning are more right than I would prefer, he is less an ideologue and more of someone who wants to get things done and will compromise to do it.

That may be a bad thing to many people, but if Obama has proven anything it is that " my way or the highway" approach is a lousy way to govern ( or try to).
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Romney hadn't gotten much things done except passing that healthcare law he is trying to run away from. In fact he wasnt even going to get re-elected. Thats why he didnt run for another term. Romney failed as governor of massachusetts. I would say blago was better than him. At least he got elected twice.
 
99percenter said:
The conservatives cant afford romney's liberal policies. Under his presidency the deficit will skyrocket. Romney is the most liberal candidate to ever run for president. He is even to liberal for me. Since you support him i have no choice but the assume you are liberal.
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??????????

This is one of the stranger posts. Romney is not a liberal. He's not a conservative either. He's the Etch A Sketch candidate. He's the candidate that blows with the wind. He picks whatever position is the most politically expedient at the moment. I don't know how anyone thinks they can trust him.

However, I think you're right about the deficit skyrocketing. Think we have big deficits now? Just wait till Romney serves up further tax cuts that we can't afford and that the wealthy don't need. He may also be stupid enough to start a war with Iran. Think the Iraq War hurt us? Think Afghanistan hurt us? That would be nothing compared to a war with Iran.
 
99percenter said:
If thats the case we cannot blame muslims for 9-11. I'm sure many of them find those kind of acts despicable.
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We shouldn't blame Muslims for 9/11. Most of them were appalled by it. It was a small group of radicals using religion as an excuse to be cruel.
 
Luna Tick said:
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This is one of the stranger posts. Romney is not a liberal. He's not a conservative either. He's the Etch A Sketch candidate. He's the candidate that blows with the wind. He picks whatever position is the most politically expedient at the moment. I don't know how anyone thinks they can trust him.

However, I think you're right about the deficit skyrocketing. Think we have big deficits now? Just wait till Romney serves up further tax cuts that we can't afford and that the wealthy don't need. He may also be stupid enough to start a war with Iran. Think the Iraq War hurt us? Think Afghanistan hurt us? That would be nothing compared to a war with Iran.
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Aw, yes, tax cuts that "we" cannot afford argument. Are you saying you cannot afford to keep more of your own money and that the govt. needs it more than you do? Do you realizy how strange that statement is? Tax cuts aren't an expense to the govt. IF you project that you are going to get less money do you spend more or less? Seems that the govt. is the only entity that never goes on a diet but the taxpayer is expected to.
 
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