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ACORN is now Project Vote

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Is anyone else concerned about this?

I saw erroneous posts by another Dem here claiming "ACORN is bankrupt" when it is not, its been rebranded and is ready to engage in voter fraud.
 
Is anyone else concerned about this?

I saw erroneous posts by another Dem here claiming "ACORN is bankrupt" when it is not, its been rebranded and is ready to engage in voter fraud.

They had no choice but to rebrand themselves, thanks to the ****ing morons who fell for the O'Keefe/Fox propaganda. LOL, I find it incredibly hilarious that those who commended the downfall of ACORN are now thinking they are being sneaky because they have a new name. You just can't make this **** up. :doh

PS. They did not commit voter fraud. Some people they hired did, but they called to cops on 'em.
 
They had no choice but to rebrand themselves, thanks to the ****ing morons who fell for the O'Keefe/Fox propaganda. LOL, I find it incredibly hilarious that those who commended the downfall of ACORN are now thinking they are being sneaky because they have a new name. You just can't make this **** up. :doh

PS. They did not commit voter fraud. Some people they hired did, but they called to cops on 'em.


I think you're missing the point.. they are getting tax payer dollars to commit voter fraud.. there is nothing more to really know other then that.

Its a horrid dem machine..its an outrage that my tax dollars are used
 
Is anyone else concerned about this?

I saw erroneous posts by another Dem here claiming "ACORN is bankrupt" when it is not, its been rebranded and is ready to engage in voter fraud.

ACORN did not engage in voter fraud.

Some ACORN employees engaged in voter registration fraud.

ACORN turned in the fraudulent registrations because the law requires them to. Why does the law require them to turn in registrations even if they are known to be fake? So that people don't toss out every registration marked (D) or (R) as "fake."

ACORN turned over the responsible employees to the police and flagged the fraudulent registrations for the election board to review.

You have been lied to about ACORN's involvement in this situation.

I think you're missing the point.. they are getting tax payer dollars to commit voter fraud.. there is nothing more to really know other then that.

Its a horrid dem machine..its an outrage that my tax dollars are used

Voter registration fraud is not voter fraud. Also: YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO. ACORN did exactly as the law required, and they did the right thing. Those telling you otherwise are lying to you, and provably so.
 
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ACORN did not engage in voter fraud.

Some ACORN employees engaged in voter registration fraud.

ACORN turned in the fraudulent registrations because the law requires them to. Why does the law require them to turn in registrations even if they are known to be fake? So that people don't toss out every registration marked (D) or (R) as "fake."

ACORN turned over the responsible employees to the police and flagged the fraudulent registrations for the election board to review.

You have been lied to about ACORN's involvement in this situation.



Voter registration fraud is not voter fraud. Also: YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO. ACORN did exactly as the law required, and they did the right thing. Those telling you otherwise are lying to you, and provably so.

You are incorrect... thats why ACORN was abolished and rebranded... not much to debate here..its been doing it for MANY YEARS..it just finally got caught..
 
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Former ACORN Worker Found Guilty of Election Fraud
Tuesday, August 24, 2010







MILWAUKEE – Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen announced today that Maria Miles, a former ACORN worker, pleaded guilty to and was convicted of one count of election fraud – falsely procuring voter registration, arising out of the November 4, 2008, Presidential Election. Miles was charged by the Election Fraud Task Force, a collaborative effort between the Wisconsin Department of Justice, the Milwaukee District Attorney's Office and the Milwaukee Police Department.

According to the criminal complaint, Miles served as a Special Registration Deputy (“SRD”) for the City of Milwaukee in advance of the 2008 Presidential Election and worked for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (“ACORN”). By entering a plea of guilty today, Miles admitted to submitting multiple voter registration applications for the same individuals, and also being part of a scheme in which she and other SRDs registered each other to vote multiple times in order to meet voter registration quotas imposed by ACORN.

Miles is charged in the same complaint as Kevin Clancy, also a former ACORN worker. Clancy's case is scheduled for a guilty plea hearing on September 22, 2010, at 8:30 a.m.

The charge against Miles, a Class I felony, carries a potential penalty of imprisonment up to 3 ½ years and a $10,000 fine. She is scheduled to be sentenced on October 15, 2010, at 8:30 a.m. before Judge Richard Sankovitz.

Prior to the November 2008 election, Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen and Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm announced the creation of the Election Fraud Task Force, a multi-jurisdictional action team that evaluates, investigates and prosecutes complaints of electoral fraud. The Wisconsin Department of Justice and the Milwaukee County District Attorney's Office work cooperatively with local law enforcement and the Milwaukee Police Department as needed when investigation is required.

Assistant Attorney General David W. Maas is representing the State.

http://www.doj.state.wi.us/absolutenm/templates/template_share.aspx?articleid=2165&zoneid=1
 
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You are incorrect... thats why ACORN was abolished and rebranded... not much to debate here..its been doing it for MANY YEARS..it just finally got caught..

No, it was defunded by Congress who responded to faulty allegations. Same way Shirley Sherrod got fired on spurious grounds - people believed the allegations without checking in on them first. In both cases, the government responded before they investigated.

There's plenty to debate here, you just aren't willing to do it.

There is one case where the organization itself engaged in voter registration fraud - in Nevada, it is illegal to attach incentives to voter registration quotas. ACORN would offer a $5 bonus to employees who turned in 21 or more registrations in a day. This is legal in most states, but apparently the Nevada branch didn't do their homework.

This, obviously, is not the same thing as voter fraud. Paying employees to get more registrations does not result in fraudulent votes being cast.



The rest of the cases were all basically the same: ACORN hires minimum wage temporary employees to get people registered to vote. They go around the community, door to door, etc. The problem is that some of the lazier employees figured out that they could just sit at the mall and fill out the registrations themselves with fake names, they'd still get paid and not actually have to do any work. They brought in the forms. Fortunately, ACORN checks on these things. When they see "Mickey Mouse" on the registration form, they flag it for the election board and turn over the employee to the police. (because said employee is breaking the law)

Mickey Mouse did not show up to the polls on election day. There have been no known instances of fraudulently cast votes in relation to these registration forms.

Good article from Slate on the subject:
Believing in vote fraud may be dangerous to a democracy's health. - Slate Magazine
 
Is anyone else concerned about this?

I saw erroneous posts by another Dem here claiming "ACORN is bankrupt" when it is not, its been rebranded and is ready to engage in voter fraud.
No, ACORN is a shape shifter. They just change names. Be aware, folks. They helped bring about the mortgage meltdown that put us in the bad economy we now suffer. Obama worked for them at one time and they worked hard to get him in office. On guard !!
 
at Deuce ..youve got to be joking.. and Shirley Sherrod is a moron..

again.."they got busted after being "investigated"... thye did not turn anyone in..LOL.. and the Slate?... why not just have Biden write the article..really..

again they had to make quota..this is old stuff.. simple tricks to get funding..
 
at Deuce ..youve got to be joking.. and Shirley Sherrod is a moron..

again.."they got busted after being "investigated"... thye did not turn anyone in..LOL.. and the Slate?... why not just have Biden write the article..really..

again they had to make quota..this is old stuff.. simple tricks to get funding..

Shirley Sherrod was not "a moron." The video you watched was edited to make her look like she was being racist and the crowd was laughing about it. Complete fabrication. In fact, she was trying to demonstrate the opposite - she was talking about how racism has no place in her work. She was talking about how she had to overcome those feelings.

Of course you immediately dismiss anything that doesn't fit your worldview. Slate cites their sources. You can check yourself. Not that you will.

You probably still think the video with the "prostitute" was presented to you accurately, that ACORN was trying to help a girl set up a brothel. :lamo
 
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Shirley Sherrod was not "a moron." The video you watched was edited to make her look like she was being racist and the crowd was laughing about it. Complete fabrication. In fact, she was trying to demonstrate the opposite - she was talking about how racism has no place in her work. She was talking about how she had to overcome those feelings.

Of course you immediately dismiss anything that doesn't fit your worldview. Slate cites their sources. You can check yourself. Not that you will.

You probably still think the video with the "prostitute" was presented to you accurately, that ACORN was trying to help a girl set up a brothel. :lamo:


On April 6 the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), that is, the organization itself as opposed to its employees, was convicted in Las Vegas of felony “compensation” for registration of voters. Sentencing is scheduled for August 10. Nevada forbids compensating voter registration canvassers because it creates a financial incentive for fraudulent or sloppy registrations.

Significantly, this is the first time ACORN itself has been convicted of a crime. The fact that the nonprofit entity was found guilty strongly suggests that ACORN’s ambitious voter-fraud schemes were sanctioned at the highest levels.

The conviction came after the 2008 election cycle during which Las Vegas ACORN officials emptied the local jails to fill voter registration canvasser slots and even put individuals convicted of identity theft in charge of the registration drive. At least they hired experts, some locals quipped, according to John Fund of the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/04...ve-voter-fraud-conspiracy-legacy-media-yawns/
 
On April 6 the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), that is, the organization itself as opposed to its employees, was convicted in Las Vegas of felony “compensation” for registration of voters. Sentencing is scheduled for August 10. Nevada forbids compensating voter registration canvassers because it creates a financial incentive for fraudulent or sloppy registrations.

Significantly, this is the first time ACORN itself has been convicted of a crime. The fact that the nonprofit entity was found guilty strongly suggests that ACORN’s ambitious voter-fraud schemes were sanctioned at the highest levels.

The conviction came after the 2008 election cycle during which Las Vegas ACORN officials emptied the local jails to fill voter registration canvasser slots and even put individuals convicted of identity theft in charge of the registration drive. At least they hired experts, some locals quipped, according to John Fund of the Wall Street Journal.

ACORN Convicted In Massive Voter Fraud Conspiracy, Legacy Media Yawns | NewsReal Blog

Really? You dismiss Slate, which backs up what it says, but you're going to post a link to a far-right-wing blog that backs up basically nothing it says? :lamo

Not much to debate here, indeed. You clearly have no intention of debating anything.
 
Really? You dismiss Slate, which backs up what it says, but you're going to post a link to a far-right-wing blog that backs up basically nothing it says? :lamo

Not much to debate here, indeed. You clearly have no intention of debating anything.


I will be glad to debate..I like a good debate.. but to me not much to debate...my question is "are your worried about Project Vote which is ACORN" ...I am.. and I dont want my tax dollars funding it..its corrupt..
 
I will be glad to debate..I like a good debate.. but to me not much to debate...my question is "are your worried about Project Vote which is ACORN" ...I am.. and I dont want my tax dollars funding it..its corrupt..

What do you think Project Vote is going to do? :popcorn2:
 
That's why you hate it. If it were a horrid Conservative machine, you'd be falling all over yourself to defend them.

No I would not.. Id be disgusted and if you can show me the same from the GOP side Id want it abolished


My issue is Holder is out campaigning for Project Vote, playing the race card, and then not wanting voter ID laws enforced... its a toxic mix..and its painfully transparent..... we should all be ashamed.. and my tax dollars are being used.
 
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No I would not.. Id be disgusted and if you can show me the same from the GOP side Id want it abolished


My issue is Holder is out campaigning for Project Vote, playing the race card, and then not wanting voter ID laws enforced... its a toxic mix..and its painfully transparent..... we should all be ashamed.. and my tax dollars are being used.

How much federal funding does Project Vote receive, actually? Please provide a link that doesn't go to a far right blog....

Do you realize that Project Vote was founded in 1994 -- DECADES before ACORN went belly up? Project Vote - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Yes I know the merging of the two names.. but its very clear..

No, you apparently don't know that Project Vote predated the dissolution of ACORN by 18 years.

Now about that federal funding....?
 
No, you apparently don't know that Project Vote predated the dissolution of ACORN by 18 years.

Now about that federal funding....?

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The left-wing activist group, Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (commonly known as ACORN), has been linked to a number of serious scandals involving misuse of taxpayer funds, embezzlement, intimidation tactics, employee abuse, questionable hiring tactics, and fraudulent voter registration. Judicial Watch is on the front lines exposing the scandalous activities of ACORN and its affiliates, including Obama’s former employer, Project Vote.

In 2009, Judicial Watch exposed a plan by the Obama Census Bureau to partner with ACORN in conducting the 2010 U.S. Census, including recommending workers to perform the census (which may have included felons). Ultimately, the exposure by Judicial Watch and the resulting negative publicity surrounding ACORN led to the Bureau’s decision to sever ties with the organization.

Judicial Watch has also forced the release of documents detailing federal investigations of ACORN’s fraudulent voter registration activities, and filed a lawsuit to obtain records related to funds embezzled from ACORN by Dale Rathke, brother of ACORN founder Wade Rathke.

In 2011, Judicial Watch announced that the Obama administration issued a $79,819 grant to ACORN offshoot Affordable Housing Centers of America, apparently violating the Federal ACORN funding ban. Judicial Watch also released a comprehensive report on the rebranding of ACORN, and has also filed open records requests to unearth details regarding ACORN’s new state organizations. As part of its mission to promote transparency, accountability and integrity in government, Judicial Watch is focused on promoting accountability with voter registration in the upcoming 2012 elections.

ACORN
 
And that federal funding for Project Vote?

:popcorn2:
 
good news, we found your leaning.. you are a liberal.. you may want to change that lean status..
https://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/v1288276804.pdf

Does my lean have anything to do with the fact that you can't back up your claims that Project Vote gets federal funding and/or that it is the successor to ACORN, and/or that ACORN engaged in voter fraud?

No.

Does your link to a right wing rag enhance your case?

No.
 
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Does my lean have anything to do with the fact that you can't back up your claims that Project Vote gets federal funding and/or that it is the successor to ACORN, and/or that ACORN engaged in voter fraud?

No.

Does your link to a right wing rag enhance your case?



No.
Im sorry that the NY Times isnt following the story, but that article is suiccinct in the work around Holder is allowing under your beloved "project vote".. you ranting that its "not happening " is worth less then zero to anybody who can add or connect the dots...its actually a well done article and quite powerful for those who can read and use adult deduction
 
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By Chuck Neubauer
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The Washington Times
Wednesday, August 24, 2011

The Justice Department is being sued by a conservative legal watchdog group seeking to force the release of records showing any communications the department had with Project Vote, an election group formerly tied to ACORN - the now defunct community activist organization Congress barred from getting federal funds.

Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit last week after Justice failed to respond to its June 23 request seeking all records of communications between the department and Estelle Rogers, Project Vote’s director of advocacy and the organization’s primary contact person on policy matters at the federal and state levels.

Project Vote describes itself as a nonpartisan organization that since 1994 has helped register more than 5.6 million Americans in low-income and minority communities. It often worked with ACORN on voter registration drives.

Judicial Watch said it is investigating the extent to which Justice and Project Vote cooperate in using the National Voting Rights Act to help register more people on public assistance - voters who the watchdog agency thinks would be a key demographic for President Obama’s 2012 campaign.

“Judicial Watch is convinced that Project Vote’s activities remain a threat to the integrity of our elections,” said Tom Fitton, the watchdog group’s president. “The American people deserve to know if the nation’s highest law enforcement agency has become nothing more than a political tool to help this scandalous ACORN-front group re-elect Barack Obama.”

Project Vote has been “aggressively” pushing state election officials to change their policies to increase the number of registrations of people receiving public assistance, according to Judicial Watch. Under the law, states are required to offer voter registration service at all public assistance agencies including unemployment and food stamp offices.

“We suspect that they have been working together,” Mr. Fitton said.

In a press release Wednesday, the watchdog group pointed out that Justice accused the state of Louisiana in a lawsuit in July of violating the voting rights act less than three months after Project Hope and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People filed a similar lawsuit.

Mr. Fitton said it would be “a scandal” if Justice and Project Vote “are working together on anything.” He said the Justice Department “ought to be investigating Project Hope and added that Ms. Rogers had worked as an attorney for ACORN.

Congress cut off ACORN’s federal funding in 2009 after allegations of voter registration fraud and embezzlement.

Justice Department spokeswoman Xochitl Hinojosa declined to comment on the lawsuit. Ms. Rogers and a spokesman for Project Vote did not respond to requests for comment.

another article... FOCUS on the last lines.. read slow..its not that complicated..


http://www.lodinews.com/opinion/letters/article_3db67e71-12ef-5700-b22e-260ab4028a14.html
 
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