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Obama campaign video suggests Romney wouldn't have killed bin Laden

TurtleDude said:
True but then again you tend to be honest. We will get tons of Obama slurpers claiming otherwise.
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I find calling Obama supporters "Obama slurpers" to be incredibly offensive, in a few different ways. I will politely ask that you don't use such a crude term around here any more. Let's try to keep this as a polite, mature discussion.
 
TurtleDude said:
ITs to be expected from the most dishonest administration in decades
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What has Obama done that has been so incredibly dishonest? I can think of a long list of things the Bush administration lied about for instance, but this administration has been fairly straightforward in saying they're going to do. There's been some rhetoric that I could argue with you whether or not it was dishonest, but it's not like he's another Nixon or W. Bush, as far as dishonesty.
 
99percenter said:
LOL. A supporter of bush should be calling anyone else dishonest.
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actually I can call Obama dishonest as much as I want

it is the truth and this guy lies like a rug
 
the makeout hobo said:
What has Obama done that has been so incredibly dishonest? I can think of a long list of things the Bush administration lied about for instance, but this administration has been fairly straightforward in saying they're going to do. There's been some rhetoric that I could argue with you whether or not it was dishonest, but it's not like he's another Nixon or W. Bush, as far as dishonesty.
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Of course an Obamite can remember what he doesn't like about Bush while having amnesia on all the lies Obama has spewed or broken promises

lets see

ending the "Bush wars"

ending the "Bush" tax cuts

claiming the rich aren't paying their fair share while everyone else is

closing Gitmo
 
the makeout hobo said:
I find calling Obama supporters "Obama slurpers" to be incredibly offensive, in a few different ways. I will politely ask that you don't use such a crude term around here any more. Let's try to keep this as a polite, mature discussion.
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Slurping Obama is a most apt reference. Chris Matthews for example is an Obama Slurper for sure.
 
Flippinfunky said:
I agree, just like Bush didnt "wake up one day" and get Sadamm....someone close to the Hussein family told us where he was. Bush got props though...right? He was given an "Atta boy!" and highly praised. Perhaps Obama should fly in an S-3B Viking and stand in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner wearing a flight suit...maybe then he'll deserve some credit.
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Obama never earned wings

try again
 
TurtleDude said:
Obama never earned wings

try again
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What's that got to do with the FACT Obama IS Commander in Chief and ordered the operation that led to the death of OBL? Giving him the slightest credit would just KILL you conservatives, huh? You REALLY dont care about 9/11 and the original mission (per George Bush) do you? How could you, you're too busy being Partisan. "Party before Country!


"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01
 
TurtleDude said:
Of course an Obamite can remember what he doesn't like about Bush while having amnesia on all the lies Obama has spewed or broken promises

lets see

ending the "Bush wars"
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I'll give you this one partially. He ended Iraq and is trying to wind down in Afghanistan, but he did not do these as quickly as he said he would.

ending the "Bush" tax cuts
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I count this as "failing to meet a political goal" than "being dishonest". He tried to end them, but he failed.

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claiming the rich aren't paying their fair share while everyone else is [/quote]
This is an entirely subjective issue, as to what their fair share is. You can't say he's lying about something that is completely subjective.

closing Gitmo
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I'll give you this one, too. I will concede , he has not kept every campaign promise, but he has not engaged in the large scale deception of the American people that Bush used to get us into Iraq or lied about his personal life like Clinton. I just don't see how he's "the most dishonest president in US history." I can give you much bigger "lies" that Reagan told, for instance.

TurtleDude said:
Slurping Obama is a most apt reference. Chris Matthews for example is an Obama Slurper for sure.
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It's vulgar, it's insulting, and it's homophobic. Please stop, and please grow up. As a queer person, I especially don't like to see sexuality used as a slur against your political opponents.
 
Flippinfunky said:
What's that got to do with the FACT Obama IS Commander in Chief and ordered the operation that led to the death of OBL? Giving him the slightest credit would just KILL you conservatives, huh? You REALLY dont care about 9/11 and the original mission (per George Bush) do you? How could you, you're too busy being Partisan. "Party before Country!


"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01
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The military had been tasked with this for years. Obama was smart enough not to F things up.

So based on your quotes you believe Bush told the military to stop looking for him

Obama's a joke as a President. He just lucked out what Bush started led to him having OBL nailed under him

Its just like the Atlanta Bomber that Clinton told federal authorities to find (Eric Rudolph) who was caught under Bush's watch. I don't blame Clinton nor credit Bush for that domestic terrorist being caught
 
Flippinfunky said:
Actually, Chris Matthews doesn't like Obama. Catch up, Turtlespeed!
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He no longer gets the warm tingling feeling going up his leg in a major man-crush? LOL so Matthews is going to slurp Romney like he slurped Obama in 08

YEAH RIGHT

I don't see any proof in your post either
 
TurtleDude said:
The military had been tasked with this for years. Obama was smart enough not to F things up.

So based on your quotes you believe Bush told the military to stop looking for him

Obama's a joke as a President. He just lucked out what Bush started led to him having OBL nailed under him

Its just like the Atlanta Bomber that Clinton told federal authorities to find (Eric Rudolph) who was caught under Bush's watch. I don't blame Clinton nor credit Bush for that domestic terrorist being caught
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As I mentioned, you have to consider the ramifications if the call had been wrong, and OBL had not been there.
 
the makeout hobo said:
As I mentioned, you have to consider the ramifications if the call had been wrong, and OBL had not been there.
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I bet we'd never have known about it

My nephew is a captain in the SF and I don't know what he is doing
 
TurtleDude said:
Of course an Obamite can remember what he doesn't like about Bush while having amnesia on all the lies Obama has spewed or broken promises

lets see

ending the "Bush wars"

ending the "Bush" tax cuts

claiming the rich aren't paying their fair share while everyone else is

closing Gitmo
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1. Most presidents fail to fulfill all campaign promises. This is "10th grade Civics" knowledge.

2. The rich aren't paying their fair share....and paying it wouldn't hurt them a bit... I have "corporate" family, family that makes more money than you could ever imagine, and I assure you, they pay less than you, they aren't hurting, and nor will they should they be made to pay more(nor do they care about you, your job or your "loose change" income).

3. Obama extended the Bush tax cuts because Republicans pledged to block the Unemployment Extension UNLESS Obama extended the Bush tax cuts. Perhaps that's "dishonest" to you, but I NEEDED that extension, as did many Americans. He did what he HAD to do to help the People.
 
Flippinfunky said:
1. Most presidents fail to fulfill all campaign promises. This is "10th grade Civics" knowledge.

2. The rich aren't paying their fair share....and paying it wouldn't hurt them a bit... I have "corporate" family, family that makes more money than you could ever imagine, and I assure you, they pay less than you, they aren't hurting, and nor will they should they be made to pay more(nor do they care about you, your job or your "loose change" income).

3. Obama extended the Bush tax cuts because Republicans pledged to block the Unemployment Extension UNLESS Obama extended the Bush tax cuts. Perhaps that's "dishonest" to you, but I NEEDED that extension, as did many Americans. He did what he HAD to do to help the People.
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what utter bovine excrement. The rich are the only group that PAYS more of the FEDERAL INCOME TAX BURDEN than their SHARE OF THE INCOME

btw I am in the top one percent and I pay an effective federal income rate far above yours.

and you are in no POSITION to tell ME what people like ME care about
 
Bill Clinton was convicted of Civil Contempt of Court by Federal District Court Judge Susan Weber Wright and he is an Impeached Pervert. The Arkansas State Supreme Court suspended his law license and he had to pay thousands in fines.

He goes around like some honorable elder statesman, but he's a disgusting scumbag who couldn't keep his pants up with teenage interns around.

Go to General Political Discussions to read my thread I posted today on Bill Clinton: elder statesman or impeached dirtbag?
 
TurtleDude said:
The military had been tasked with this for years. Obama was smart enough not to F things up.

So based on your quotes you believe Bush told the military to stop looking for him

Obama's a joke as a President. He just lucked out what Bush started led to him having OBL nailed under him

Its just like the Atlanta Bomber that Clinton told federal authorities to find (Eric Rudolph) who was caught under Bush's watch. I don't blame Clinton nor credit Bush for that domestic terrorist being caught
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How do the quotes I provided suggest Im saying Bush said to stop looking for OBL? Nevermind, Im sure you'll twist it and really, I dont have time to play little kid games.
Like I said: It would just KILL you to give him credit...I find that funny. :2razz:

Party before Country!
 
Comment_Guy said:
Bill Clinton was convicted of Civil Contempt of Court by Federal District Court Judge Susan Weber Wright and he is an Impeached Pervert. The Arkansas State Supreme Court suspended his law license and he had to pay thousands in fines.

He goes around like some honorable elder statesman, but he's a disgusting scumbag who couldn't keep his pants up with teenage interns around.

Go to General Political Discussions to read my thread I posted today on Bill Clinton: elder statesman or impeached dirtbag?
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In all fairness many libs treat him like an elder statesman so apparently one can be both
 
Flippinfunky said:
How do the quotes I provided suggest Im saying Bush said to stop looking for OBL? Nevermind, Im sure you'll twist it and really, I dont have time to play little kid games.
Like I said: It would just KILL you to give him credit...I find that funny. :2razz:

Party before Country!
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put a lid on the bold type newbie. I give credit where credit is due. I have nothing but the highest respect for the special warfare operators of our armed forces since one of them is family

You are obviously putting Obama slurpage before country so stash the hypocrisy
 
TurtleDude said:
put a lid on the bold type newbie. I give credit where credit is due. I have nothing but the highest respect for the special warfare operators of our armed forces since one of them is family

You are obviously putting Obama slurpage before country so stash the hypocrisy
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I will report you for that, like I said, I find it personally offensive.
 
TurtleDude said:
I bet we'd never have known about it

My nephew is a captain in the SF and I don't know what he is doing
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Pakistan would have known that we were there, and could have made quite the fuss. The religious fundies who have too much power in Pakistan already would have had a field day, if he hadn't been there.

TurtleDude said:
what utter bovine excrement. The rich are the only group that PAYS more of the FEDERAL INCOME TAX BURDEN than their SHARE OF THE INCOME

btw I am in the top one percent and I pay an effective federal income rate far above yours.

and you are in no POSITION to tell ME what people like ME care about
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Remind me how you made your money again? Some sort of lawyer, right?
 
the makeout hobo said:
Pakistan would have known that we were there, and could have made quite the fuss. The religious fundies who have too much power in Pakistan already would have had a field day, if he hadn't been there.



Remind me how you made your money again? Some sort of lawyer, right?
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well we could start from being one of the current heads of the Longworth Family

then 28 years as a fairly prominent attorney who went to fairly prominent schools (the kind with Ivy)

and then as the owner of several fairly profitable corporations-two of which I formed with my brothers, one with my late father and a fourth with my brothers and father.

all in all I do OK and I probably pay more taxes in a quarter than you make in a year
 
the makeout hobo said:
Why do you think it is OK to insult people who disagree with you? That's not what politics in America should be about.
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You ought to read the rules. I am not personally insulting you, I am noting what you do in your posts.

And I find slurping Obama to be stupid
 
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