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Fox News poll shows Obama and Romney virtually tied

AdamT said:
You mean as opposed to Rasmussen, which has been among the least accurate polling firms -- with a clear Repbulican bias -- over the last few cycles?
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From the 2008 election:


Four of these polls appear to have overestimated McCain
support (indicated with a * below), while most polls (17) overestimated Obama strength.
Pre-election projections for two organizations’ final polls—Rasmussen and Pew—were
perfectly in agreement with the actual election result (**).
The following list ranks the 23 organizations by the accuracy of their final, national preelection
polls (as reported on pollster.com).

1. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**
1. Pew (10/29-11/1)**
2. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
3. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*
5. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
5. ARG (10/25-27)*
6. CNN (10/30-11/1)
6. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
7. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
8. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
9. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
10. FOX (11/1-2)
11. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
12. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
13. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
14. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)
15. Marist College (11/3)
16. CBS (10/31-11/2)
17. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
18. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
19. CBS/Times (10/25-29)
20. Newsweek

http://www.fordham.edu/images/acade...ccuracy in the 2008 presidential election.pdf
 
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Navy Pride said:
I am kind of shocked that Romney would be ahead of Hussein Obama at this stage of the game............Be afraid my left wing friends.......be very afraid........

Fox News poll shows Obama and Romney virtually tied – Applesauce - Rockford, IL - Rockford Register Star


Republican Mitt Romney holds a slim edge over President Obama in a head-to-head matchup, a Fox News poll released Thursday shows. In addition, the poll finds the president’s job rating has dropped to its lowest point of the year.
In a presidential matchup, Romney tops Obama by 46-44 percent if the election were today.
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It's going to be a nail biter this time around.... I can FEEL it.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I'm certain that Romney will win in November.

I'm equally certain that it will rain in Hoboken on November 15th.

One prediction is worth about as much as the other.
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Watch both of these happen. You'll have to change your username to Nostra-frickkin-damus.
 
OpportunityCost said:
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Cmon, whats the plus Dem on the poll. Stop trying to deflect with Rasmussen and examine your pet poll on its own merits.
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the stated argument was that rasmussen projections indicate a definite bias
the deflection occurs when the response ignores that and attempts to move the discussion away from that very legitimate argument
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Dittohead not! said:
I'm certain that Romney will win in November.

I'm equally certain that it will rain in Hoboken on November 15th.

One prediction is worth about as much as the other.
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Good point.

One things for certain, it's going to get a whole lot uglier now that Fox can focus it's entire attention on getting their viewers to hate Obama with all their soul.
 
hazlnut said:
Good point.

One things for certain, it's going to get a whole lot uglier now that Fox can focus it's entire attention on getting their viewers to hate Obama with all their soul.
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Fox news doesnt do that. Obama's policies do that.
 
justabubba said:
the stated argument was that rasmussen projections indicate a definite bias
the deflection occurs when the response ignores that and attempts to move the discussion away from that very legitimate argument
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No actually, Mr Justified (thats a compliment Adam, love that show :p ) brought up another poll and I asked him top examine that poll by its stated plus dem sampling. He then deflected by saying Rasmussen is not an accurate pollster---without providing corroborating evidence, specific to this poll. So I asked him again to examine the poll he stated on its own merits--a good practice for any poll.

I already know what the Rasmussen crosstabs are going to look like because they are fairly consistent: Dem plus 2 to 4, all registered voters or likely voters. Contacted by both cell and land lines. Usually around 1500 people. I saw people on this site quoting a CNN poll that was plus 11 dem. That is nowhere near realistic.
 
TurtleDude said:
You are one of the few active posters who has more seniority than I do and we have about the same amount of posts (you were here 6 weeks before me). What is amazing is that there are posters with less than a year here who have posted over 12,000 posts. NP and I are averaging less than 5000 posts a year
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I took a year off but you are right...........We have been fighting the good fight against nutty liberalism for almost 7 years........Keep you the good fight my friend...If we don't defeat these nutty socialist/libs it could be all over.
 
99percenter said:
CNN poll has obama by 9. Rasmussen has romney by 3.
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True, but these are national polls and its way too early. Later on, national polls may determine how an independent will vote in November.
 
pbrauer said:
True, but these are national polls and its way too early. Later on, national polls may determine how an independent will vote in November.
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Unbelievably, Pete we are in agreement.
 
Navy Pride said:
I am kind of shocked that Romney would be ahead of Hussein Obama at this stage of the game............Be afraid my left wing friends.......be very afraid........

Fox News poll shows Obama and Romney virtually tied – Applesauce - Rockford, IL - Rockford Register Star


Republican Mitt Romney holds a slim edge over President Obama in a head-to-head matchup, a Fox News poll released Thursday shows. In addition, the poll finds the president’s job rating has dropped to its lowest point of the year.
In a presidential matchup, Romney tops Obama by 46-44 percent if the election were today.
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Wow, there's a surprise. The Republocrat candidates are nearly evenly split. Who would have thought.....
 
Navy Pride said:
Check out Redress, she has close to 50,000 posts ...I am retired so I have and excuse...........Redress obviously has no life.....:)
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50 grand! Wow!

You guys are amazing - I honestly don't know how you do it! I'll never reach that level of glory around here. There's just no way I could ever compete with that. Nope. No way. :2no4:
 
OpportunityCost said:
No actually, Mr Justified (thats a compliment Adam, love that show :p ) brought up another poll and I asked him top examine that poll by its stated plus dem sampling. He then deflected by saying Rasmussen is not an accurate pollster---without providing corroborating evidence, specific to this poll. So I asked him again to examine the poll he stated on its own merits--a good practice for any poll.

I already know what the Rasmussen crosstabs are going to look like because they are fairly consistent: Dem plus 2 to 4, all registered voters or likely voters. Contacted by both cell and land lines. Usually around 1500 people. I saw people on this site quoting a CNN poll that was plus 11 dem. That is nowhere near realistic.
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I wasn't trying to deflect. My point in bringing up the other polls was to say that there is huge variation between polls (even by the same pollster, day to day) at this point in the election cycle, so it's a bit nonsensical to fixate on them. Thus it would have been more than a little nonsensical for me to fixate on the CNN poll.
 
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