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Thread to report dumb remarks/ lies/oops moments by Candidate: Barack Obama

The cops didn't act stupidly, they were doing their job... Gates was going over the top and being verbally assaultive of the cop, and was preventing him from doing his job, so he was arrested for causing a disturbance...

The cops acted stupidly. Gates was entering his own home. He overreacted when they confronted him and then they overreacted. There was absolutely no reason to make an arrest. The cops were just butthurt because Gates had the nerve to talk back to them.

An independent panel with experts from across the nation published a report on June 30, 2010, which states that "Sergeant Crowley and Professor Gates each missed opportunities to 'ratchet down' the situation and end it peacefully" and share responsibility for the controversial July 16 arrest. Crowley could have better explained how uncertain and potentially dangerous it is to respond to a serious crime-in-progress call and why this can result in a seemingly rude tone. Gates could have tried to understand Crowley's view of the situation and could have spoken respectfully to Crowley. The report cites research that shows people's feelings about a police encounter depend significantly on whether they feel the officer displays respect and courtesy.

Henry Louis Gates arrest controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
The cops acted stupidly. Gates was entering his own home. He overreacted when they confronted him and then they overreacted. There was absolutely no reason to make an arrest. The cops were just butthurt because Gates had the nerve to talk back to them.
oooooooo a wikipedia opinion must be accurate...

The problem is, when it says "The officer couldve explained that..." They're in the wrong, since it's not the officer's job to explain his job to someone else... it's just to do it... When you respond to a call you have to assess the situation and go through certain protocols, and Crowley was adhering to them...

As far as Gates... Guess what... he doesn't get the right to talk back to them the way he did, and not expect repurcusions... if they give him a command, he is to comply with it... he wasn't complying... They were responding to a report of break-in... He wasn't breaking in, but he was in the home that the report was given to, and he did lock himself out, and try to jimmy the lock open... The cop showed up on the scene, and began asking for ID he refused to provide it... How can the officer be doing his job without asking for ID...

He also asked Gates to step out of the home... So he could be sure what he was dealing with, from a safety standpoint... Gates got pissed off and refused... the officer continued to ask him to step out of the home, he refused... He even went as far as to say "Ill step outside with your mama" (which at that point he's lucky he didn't get tasered)...

Then later he stepped out of the home, and showed ID, but at this point became abusive to the cop... also at this point, there was backup on the scene, and this was not the random idea of one officer, but the work of several officers when dealing with a combative person refusing what the officer was telling him to do... so he was placed under arrest for causing a disturbance... which he clearly was at this point... He continually verbally abused an officer responding to a call, accused him of being racist, and said things to the extent of "do you know who you're messing with", and "ill step outside with your mama"... so he got arrested and rightfully so...


Either way... that's a problem easily dealt with...

But the major mistakes are on the president's part...

1) The president didn't have all the facts, but chose to speak on it... No one should ever speak on a case without the facts... he shouldve just left it at that

2) however, as he said, i may be biased, skip gates is a friend... and rather than reclusing himself from comment (which as a lawyer he should know well about) that's where he shows he is a president who will act with bias for his friends...

3) then he makes the 3rd major blunder by calling out a police force who are out enforcing the laws of this country... you can't do that without basis of fact for doing so... and since he didnt have all the facts he's clearly in the wrong...


then... to make up for his misgiving... he tries to coax crowley into apologizing to Gates at the White House having beers on the lawn to solve this... it backfires, as it gets all sorts of hype, and neither apologizes to each other... and it's just seen as it should... as the president stupidly getting involved in an issue he had no business in, then wasting a bunch of time and money focusing on the minutiae, while our economy is in shambles...

Beer Summit = Egg on Obama's Face...
 
the next gaffe... is more of the comical variety... but, in light of his decreased popularity, it's rather indicative of his general reception lately...

Obama gets booed at Fenway Park!!!



Now, many politicians have been booed before... That's no big deal... and in fact, there was more of a stink made about the one where he was booed during the All-Star game in St Louis...

Obama loudly booed at 2009 All Star Game - YouTube

Or when Michelle Obama was booed at Yankee Stadium

Michelle Obama Booed at Yankee World Series Game 1 - YouTube

Or at the National's game in Washington, DC

Obama Fenway Park BOOs: The Media Edit Version against REAL VERSION - YouTube

But, the one at Fenway Park is of bigger significance... being, that not only is Fenway in Boston (one of the largest areas of liberalism in the country)... but that he intentionally dons a White Sox cap to egg on the boo's rather than just being booed for his failed policies...

That's right he is out there trying to intice resentment...

So therefore, even in areas where he should get a resounding applause to offset the more common booing... he still gets booed... bad move man... bad move... You are now not well liked, ANYWHERE...

(I absolutely love the part, where after calling him a "LIARRRR"... the person next to him asks, and he says "yeah... he ate a dog"... LMFAO)
 
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You could certainly find out by checking the footnotes to the article, which you would have done if you were interested in rising above stupid ad hominem argument. If you had you'd have found that the information came from Report on Cambridge police Sgt. Crowley, Professor Gates | Harvard Magazine

I did check... that's why I discredited the wikipedia use as a source... since all the sources they listed had heavy liberal leanings or some other bias to be pro president or pro Gates...

Yeah, odd how that works, that an article in Harvard Magazine would put honus on Crowley to take it off Gates and Obama (heavily connected Harvard people)...

Do yourself a favor... do more research into the definition of what constitutes a "fact"
 
The next major gaffe...

Larry Summers

That's right... the man of "Change", who was going to go remove the entrenched Washington elite... goes and hires one of the entrenched Washington elite (former chief of the treasury department under Clinton)...

This abrupt diversion from the “Change” message even pissed off many on the left... including Jon Stewart (who lately isn’t as moderate or centrist as he used to be, but still claims to be from time to time)... who took Obama to task for this on his show...

Obama grilled - YouTube

Further exacerbating this issue... It wasn’t just that Larry Summers was the former Clinton Administration member… (In which he got the country to invest in a lot of derivatives… which then became a major compound on the national debt during the dot-com and housing bubble bursts)… but what also occurred in between then and when he got hired…

Larry Summers went on to be president of Harvard University… It didn’t exactly end well… He resigned ahead of being fired, after a vote of no-confidence… It was based off several bad decisions, such as getting into a battle with one of the famous African American professors, off of a major conflict of interest with his dealings in the Russian economy based off inside knowledge he had from a colleague, and off of a scandal that arose when he was asked why there weren’t more women in the fields of engineering and science… His response was that there was a different availability at the higher end… which comes off as rather chauvinistic… and he was roundly criticized for it… as the president of Harvard, who should be out promoting and encouraging women to get into those fields, he made a comment that was rather derogatory…

So why was it Obama, who had issues with women’s groups during the campaign, off his “sweetie” comment and his running against the women’s candidate, Hillary Clinton, then go hire someone who was associated with being fired for derogatory comments about women’s ability to work in the sciences… This hiring will likely come back to hurt him after this supposed “war on women” approach against the Republicans…

It should also be noted that Harvard University lost a SIGNIFICANT amount of their large endowment, which is one of the reasons they’re able to wield their power as the top university, because Larry Summers got Harvard University to invest in a lot of derivatives as well… which collapsed during the housing market bubble burst…

However, it gets even better…

After leaving Harvard University Larry Summers found himself in consultation with one of the prominent proponents of the New World Order, Henry Kissinger, who recommends that he be given a government position…

He takes jobs as a consultant for many large investment companies (mainly Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and Chase, all the banks closely associated with the New World Order movement)…

So, when Obama gets into office (the man whose first job out of college was set up by Henry Kissinger), after running on a message of change, guess who he appoints as head of the National Economic Council… Larry Summers… no change at all… and in fact Larry Summers wants an even larger role, to match his ego… so he keeps chomping at the bit to get Ben Bernanke’s job… However… he is involved with setting the policies which will guide the economic stimulus money… He diverts the money away from infrastructure improvement projects, which would’ve put the layed off construction workers back to work and provide much needed infrastructure improvement in the country… and instead argues for the money to be given to the financial institutions… such as, Goldman Sachs, and Citigroup!!! (seems like yet another conflict of interest)

So how is it Larry Summers, a man who had already been sued by the US Govt for a conflict of interest… and who had been a career academic economist, with no real experience in the private sector, was hired by the Obama Administration to assist in the economic recovery effort? Why was a man who had been working in connection with people in the financial industry just prior to the economic collapse, who still had ties with institutions that could benefit from the economic stimulus money get hired to assist in the economic stimulus framework? Why was a man, who had proven his economic advice had lead to major loss of investment in the Clinton Administration and at Harvard University (likely at these financial industry companies he was working with as well) then given an opportunity to draw up the plans to direct US funds? Was it an inside appointment by Obama to assist in creating the New World Order…? That seems very possible given all the Kissinger, Rubin, CFR ties involved… Also because despite all his Bad advice, president Obama went around praising the work that Larry Summers was doing… The "Heck of a job" comment Obama makes about him on the Daily Show is rather indicative as well...

All up until 2010… Larry Summers stepped down from his position, and went back to teach at Harvard… Why would he leave a high level federal position on the very battleground of the economic recovery to return to teach a course at Harvard… Because, his opposition to the US Government getting involved with spending for nationalized healthcare… So the man Obama had appointed and praised for being a brilliant economist told Obama that getting involved with nationalized healthcare was a stupid idea… and was forced out as a result…

This whole Obama hiring and firing of Larry Summers stinks something bad…

To quote Hillary Clinton, “Shame on you, Obama!”
 
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I completely agree, but if pimp is the worst word to be found in these posts, then I really must nominate the entire membership here for sainthood. DARN, we're good!!
 
I'll have to agree, too. Summers must have some kind of amazing in-person charisma to keep getting these plum jobs with his track record. The guy is obviously very smart, but he's often just WRONG on big issues.

It was pretty shocking to me that Obama chose him. OTOH, McCain's chief advisor was Phil Gramm who was probably the single individual most responsible for the financial meltdown.
 
It was pretty shocking to me that Obama chose him. OTOH, McCain's chief advisor was Phil Gramm who was probably the single individual most responsible for the financial meltdown.
McCain ran an awful campaign... In the end it was still probably the anti-Bush backlash and the racial support for Obama which turned the election... but I think A LOT of people expected A LOT more out of McCain... who barely put up a fight... Who at the time was out there trying to get help on the mortgage crisis early, wanting to cut spending and eliminate pork, and cut corporate tax rates so we can be more competitive in a global market...

In the end, though, McCain wasn't elected, Obama was... and Obama's administration has mishandled the economy, and a lot of the inner hirings of Summers, Geithner, Napolitano, etc. really stand out as against the rhetoric of Hope and Change... and then additions of Daley, to replace Rahm Emanuel speak to how the corrupt Chicago Machine has its dirty hands on the reigns in Washington... And Eric Holder... there can be no defending that choice... or the choice not to remove him...

Obama's administrative appointments stand as their own gaffe... From ones who were rejected or withdrew for not paying taxes, or whatever reason... the delays in getting approval of these people was because there were enough questionable ones to cast a shaddow over the whole lot...

Then there are the numerous czars he created...
 
McCain ran an awful campaign... In the end it was still probably the anti-Bush backlash and the racial support for Obama which turned the election... but I think A LOT of people expected A LOT more out of McCain... who barely put up a fight... Who at the time was out there trying to get help on the mortgage crisis early, wanting to cut spending and eliminate pork, and cut corporate tax rates so we can be more competitive in a global market...

In the end, though, McCain wasn't elected, Obama was... and Obama's administration has mishandled the economy, and a lot of the inner hirings of Summers, Geithner, Napolitano, etc. really stand out as against the rhetoric of Hope and Change... and then additions of Daley, to replace Rahm Emanuel speak to how the corrupt Chicago Machine has its dirty hands on the reigns in Washington... And Eric Holder... there can be no defending that choice... or the choice not to remove him...

Obama's administrative appointments stand as their own gaffe... From ones who were rejected or withdrew for not paying taxes, or whatever reason... the delays in getting approval of these people was because there were enough questionable ones to cast a shaddow over the whole lot...

Then there are the numerous czars he created...

Well, as usual you overplay your hand. Giethner was a good choice, as was Napolitano. IMO Obama's biggest mistake was putting Summers ahead of Volcker. Volcker is a smart, no bull**** guy who's largely responsible for pulling Reagan's fat out of the fire. I think the financial reform effort would have benefitted from his experience and gravitas.

The vast marjority of the delay in approving Obama's appointments is pure politics by Republicans who are hell bent on blocking him wherever they can.
 

He's so transparent... I can't even see him...


It's a shame that there are still morons in America that still believes in Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and Obama's word.
 
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