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The Republican Party has become a Radical Party

Res Cogitans

Res Cogitans

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[video]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/04/01/friedman_republican_party_has_become_a_radical_par ty.html#ooid=hoNHhjNDosujKhpFABlwg8_7UK-Q6M2l[/video]


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...lican_party_has_become_a_radical_par ty.html


The craziest thing about this is Mitt Romney's Favorable rating is at 34%. Recent Republican Party nominees have ALL had much higher favorable ratings at this stage of the game...


Mitt Romney (2012) 34% Favorable/ 50% Unfavorable

John Mccain (2008) 53%/ 40%

George W. Bush (2000) 49%/ 39%

Bob Dole (1996) 49%/ 36%

Does Romney Stand a chance? Will the republican base rally around him?
 
romney never stood a chance,he attracts moderates but not conservatives,and santorum attracts conservatives and not moderates,and to win the republican candidate would have to excite both groups,which both have failed to do.
 
Res Cogitans said:
The craziest thing about this is Mitt Romney's Favorable rating is at 34%. Recent Republican Party nominees have ALL had much higher favorable ratings at this stage of the game...


Mitt Romney (2012) 34% Favorable/ 50% Unfavorable

John Mccain (2008) 53%/ 40%

George W. Bush (2000) 49%/ 39%

Bob Dole (1996) 49%/ 36%

Does Romney Stand a chance? Will the republican base rally around him?
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I sincerely doubt that the GOP base will rally around him in sufficient numbers in the general election.

I do object to the claim that Republicans are now radicals. Are we no longer allowed to expect the candidates from our party share our conservative views?
 
He has more of a chance than Santorum.
But that is not saying a whole lot.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
Also: The democrat party has become intolerant.
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I am not sure about that. Blue dog Democrats are fairly common, and I imagine that Obama is gnashing his teeth because of that. LOL.
 
Res Cogitans: I agree with you, but you have no arguments.

Although I will say the GOP has become a divided party. The radicals are fighting the corrupt leadership represented by Mitt Romney. The fiscal conservatives and the libertarians are ignored.
 
Political group identities have morphed from being ideological into being purely racial. Obama understands this, Republicans do not, Obama will win.
 
Matt Foley said:
Political group identities have morphed from being ideological into being purely racial. Obama understands this, Republicans do not, Obama will win.
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How Obama can win ? what he done for the citizens ?
 
henrypanda said:
How Obama can win ?
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You're obviously not paying attention to reality.

Obama wins by not being any of the other guys.
He's the least frightening, and least offense choice out there.

He's the lessor of two evils. Especially if the other evil is anyone but Romney.
 
danarhea said:
I am not sure about that. Blue dog Democrats are fairly common, and I imagine that Obama is gnashing his teeth because of that. LOL.
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these would be the "conservative democrats" who vote for Nancy Pelosi to take the House Chair, and who voted for Obamacare?
 
My perception of the "radicalization" of the republican/conservative front is based mainly on the consistent attempts over the last decade or so to combine religion and politics.
 
Dragonfly said:
My perception of the "radicalization" of the republican/conservative front is based mainly on the consistent attempts over the last decade or so to combine religion and politics.
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No, actually the opposite is true. It's the Godless Libertarians who radicalized the Republican Party.
 
Dragonfly said:
My perception of the "radicalization" of the republican/conservative front is based mainly on the consistent attempts over the last decade or so to combine religion and politics.
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I have no problem combining religion and politics.... none whatsoever.

combining religion and policymaking/lawmaking, well, that's another story altogether.
 
I don't accept the premise that the GOP has been radicalized.

... nothing they do is radical.

pulling from the dictionary definition of radical, an argument can be made for the Obama administration being radicalized on certain issues... but , I won't extent that to the whole of the Democratic party though.
 
Camlon said:
Res Cogitans: I agree with you, but you have no arguments.

Although I will say the GOP has become a divided party. The radicals are fighting the corrupt leadership represented by Mitt Romney. The fiscal conservatives and the libertarians are ignored.
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I do HAVE arguments, but my intention wasn't to post or start an argument. The title of the webpage that I cited, and the title of the video that it shows is "The Republican Party has become a Radical Party." And even though I might agree with that, I don't plan on arguing about that. I was more interested in these approval ratings numbers and what people thought about them.
 
Matt Foley said:
Political group identities have morphed from being ideological into being purely racial. Obama understands this, Republicans do not, Obama will win.
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If it had become purely racial, then how on earth would Obama win an election in anywhere but Detroit or Atlanta?
 
I will vote for anyone who runs against Obama. Just settle on one of these guys and he's got my vote. I believe another 4 years of Obama will change the country to a point of no return.
 
Billy the Kid said:
I will vote for anyone who runs against Obama. Just settle on one of these guys and he's got my vote. I believe another 4 years of Obama will change the country to a point of no return.
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And that is why the GOP won't win. They didn't learn that leasson from the Dems in 2004 when the Dems voted for "Anyone but Bush". Now the GOP is repeating the same mistake which is why Obama will win. Romney will not excite the people needed to win.

It's pretty sad to, this was the GOP election to win and instead they are grabbing defeat from victory.
 
Thrilla said:
I don't accept the premise that the GOP has been radicalized.

... nothing they do is radical.

pulling from the dictionary definition of radical, an argument can be made for the Obama administration being radicalized on certain issues... but , I won't extent that to the whole of the Democratic party though.
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Considering the context of the claim, Friedman was making these other claims: A) Mitt Romney is not an authentic conservative because B) He is running on a platform that goes counter to everything that he's ever said in his life. Those two points, coupled with C) He's got an exceptionally low approval rating--leads Thomas Friedman to conclude that the republican party is both deeply fractured, and out of step with the American public.

The term "Radical" I gathered to refer to the base who seems to want candidates (Santorum, for example) who could never win a general election. There are certainly radicals in the democratic party, but they don't really have much political leverage.

In other words, it seems like Conservative politicians have to take radical right-wingers very seriously because they make up a large proportion of the base, hence they shape a big part of the political conversation. Radical left-wingers, on the other hand, are good at drawing attention to themselves, but haven't figured out how to leverage their voice into serious political power. As such, Liberal politicians will occasionally concede to the radical left--but mostly on symbolic measures--but liberal politicians will not need to run on a platform that is a blatant attempt to satisify the radical left.
 
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The entire conversation is relatively useless without a decent understanding of what the individuals in question term "radical" and rather or not they're argument is based on the hyperbolic notion that someone who is solidly or even strongly conservative and/or liberal is a "radical". Most of these type of discussion are rather useless and idiotic to begin with since often times a "right wing radical" is a label tossed on people who believes taxes shouldn't be raise, spending should be cut, entitlements need to be reformed, aboriton shouldn't be legal, and gays shouldn't be married.
 
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