• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!
  • Welcome to our archives. No new posts are allowed here.

Obama with double digit lead!

marduc said:
ahh here we go, let the cherry picking of polls that lean to the side that you prefer begin.

Only 7 more months of this game. Get back to me in November, and then show me the trends over time (like the last month or maybe two) and average of the polls, but it is only needed for about 10 swing states, then cross reference that with intrade quotes for good measure. Until then all of this is essentially meaningless.
Click to expand...
What is interesting and sad about what these polls are telling us is that the election can be decided by people that will be influenced by some short term event that is essentially meaningless in the long term.
 
Real Clear Politics is a good site to look at current polls. It's kind of easy to tell which one's are leaning one way or another when they are side-by-side.

One thing for certain, Americans do seem to prefer Obama.

It's hard to believe that 3 (of the 10) of the polls have him up 11/12 percent though . What is IMPOSSIBLE to believe is the one (out of 10) with Romney leading by 2%. I wonder who's paying their bills? View attachment 67125070

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama
 
OhIsee.Then said:
What is interesting and sad about what these polls are telling us is that the election can be decided by people that will be influenced by some short term event that is essentially meaningless in the long term.
Click to expand...

Ayup. We are a short sighted fickle breed of animal. One little gaffe in late October that ostracizes Floridians could be a make or break situation.
 
Last edited:
marduc said:
Ayup. We are a short sighted fickle breed of animal. One little gaffe in late October that ostracizes Floridians could be a make or break situation.
Click to expand...

No truer words were ever spoken.

Besides, elections are not always decided by which candidate has the most support. That pesky electorial college thing sees to that.
 
Captain America said:
No truer words were ever spoken.

Besides, elections are not always decided by which candidate has the most support. That pesky electorial college thing sees to that.
Click to expand...

I have a close friend who moved to Oklahoma from where I still live - The I-4 corridor in Florida. It seems that inevitably the entire focus of the presidential race comes down to this stretch of road between St. Pete/Tampa and Orlando.

I half jokingly asked him after he moved there how it felt to have gone from having his Presedential vote being crucial and potentially equivalent to thousands of votes in Florida to being essentially meaningless in Oklahoma. His response was "I see absolutely no reason to vote for President here"
 
TheDemSocialist said:
This election is going to be a pretty damn big blow out.
All i have to say, is thank god for the Tea Party!
Click to expand...

'Ya know, this is exactly what Navy Pride was telling people in 2008, and we all know how that went. LOL.
 
Captain America said:
Real Clear Politics is a good site to look at current polls. It's kind of easy to tell which one's are leaning one way or another when they are side-by-side.

One thing for certain, Americans do seem to prefer Obama.

It's hard to believe that 3 (of the 10) of the polls have him up 11/12 percent though . What is IMPOSSIBLE to believe is the one (out of 10) with Romney leading by 2%. I wonder who's paying their bills? View attachment 67125070

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama
Click to expand...

Did you not wonder who was paying the bills of the other ones? They were almost all liberal media polls... the craziest of them is the CNN one... CNN stands to lose A LOT of money if Romney has the GOP Primary wrapped up, because there goes their ratings... suddenly after Romney is coalescing support CNN comes out with an anti-Romney poll, go figure...

Real Clear Politics is not a good source, though, since they allow outlier polls to throw off more accurate trends... (they also include polls where the support for Obama is consistent with other polls, but allow an undicided or independent section which brings Romney's total down...)

ATM RCP's average (despite the one poll outlier which has Obama up 10) is at Obama +4.4

Pollster sees it much closer, with Obama +1.9, still including some of the outliers, like the CNN poll... Pollster's average has several of the Rasmussen polls which have been clear and consistent in their polling, and are of a MUCH LARGER sample size than the other polls which favor Obama... They also have a few polls I do not see appearing on the RCP site, such as the yougov/polymetric poll... which also has it at a tie...

2012 General Election: Romney vs. Obama - Pollster - Huffington Post 2012 Election Dashboard!

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama

So if you average the two major averages together, you end up with Obama +3.15... which is well within the margin of error on those polls...

This poll avg has it at Obama +2.3 of registered voters
http://politicalref.com/poll_center/obama_romney.php

which would bring the poll site average to 2.8

Its disturbing, if you're Obama, and you think you've fixed the economy from the greatest collapse since 1929, yet your healthcare bill is being challenged by the supreme court, and you only have a 3pt lead on someone who is still getting attacked from his own party, as well as by you and your VP...
 
Last edited:
I tell ya what. Today's pollls don't mean squat.

I call it NOW that it's gonna be close all the way to the finish line.

This election, as much as some people want it to be about that closet muslim, foreigner, socialist, commie <fill in your favorite FOXNews slur here> it's really not.

It's about the people. It's about the direction America takes as it confronts the future.

Some folks are going to be very disappointed when they have to read 'em and weep.

I will put a dollar on Obama and the progressive directions.

But I wouldn't lay down a twenty.

As long as the fish keep biting, I will survive. I am an American.
 
I think it is way too early to seriously consider any poll.

Here is link to a group of polls.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama

How do they poll these days with many people not having a landline? I do not know anyone with a landline phone except one person who is 84 years of age.

The lack of landlines has to impact polling I would think.
 
Dion said:
I think it is way too early to seriously consider any poll.

Here is link to a group of polls.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama

How do they poll these days with many people not having a landline? I do not know anyone with a landline phone except one person who is 84 years of age.

The lack of landlines has to impact polling I would think.
Click to expand...

Some firms to poll cell users while others do not. Rasmussen is one of the do nots which some have theorized accounts for their recent pro-Republican bias (since younger people are more likely to be cell only and to vote Democratic).
 
Who cares what the polls say, elections are not decided by the popular vote but by secret process's like post-voting delegate selection. Obama and Romney are the same thing, the way that primaries and the election policy are fabricated are done in such a way to protect the establishment. Your votes don't matter, no matter how you vote the establishment will win and the people of the United States will lose. If you support either of the medias front runner's then you are going to get war, taxes, regulation, and fascist control, due to the government being in cahoots with big corporations. The only way to remove ourselves from this cycle is to elect Ron Paul, regardless of your arbitrary political affiliation vote for freedom.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation -Declaration of Independence
 
So the Paul supporter opines that it's all a big conspiracy. Shocked! :shock:
 
johnny_rebson said:
Romney was the wrong choice. Those who knew that months ago are still praying for a brokered convention.
Click to expand...

the soreloserman whining continues. Romney has the best chance of winning compared to a lightweight like Santorum or a guy who has had three faiths and three wives
 
Catawba said:
I know hope springs eternal, but how do you figure that will happen since "Mitt Romney has clinched the Republican nomination for president with a win in the Texas primary."

Mitt Romney Clinches Texas Primary, And With It, The GOP Nomination; Ted Cruz and David Dewhurst Set for Rematch in July | TheBlaze.com
Click to expand...

They do have some goofy rules on how delegates can change their votes. While it's still possible that there would be a brokered convention, it's highly improbable.
 
johnny_rebson said:
They do have some goofy rules on how delegates can change their votes. While it's still possible that there would be a brokered convention, it's highly improbable.
Click to expand...

It was improbable back when Romney just had a lead amongst the candidates. Now that he was won the votes necessary for nomination and his rivals have endorsed him, I would have to conclude that it is more impossible than improbable for there to be a brokered convention.
 
There should be some rule about bumping garbage old threads like this.
 
Navy?..... Navy?

"ALL HANDS ON DECK!"

Please contribute to the banter concerning this worthless lopsided poll.

It's only fair.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom