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Newt To Force Brokered Convention So Palin Can Enter And Take Nomination From Mitt

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johnny_rebson said:
If there is a brokered convention, Palin will not be the nominee.
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You don't know that. She would be a breath of fresh air. She would spark enthusiaism within the party. Everyone else are all duds. Obama has charisma. So does Palin but she is a lot smarter common sense wise. She is not about class warfare or racial division. She has a record of executive experience that has positive results. Again, Obama has been a on the job training kind of guy who hasn't cut it. People said Reagan couldn't cut it. They said he was a kook. He was anything but. Now if you people will excuse me, I'm going bass fishing for the rest of the day. Good day folks.

Shilliam Watner
 
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Shilliam Watner said:
You don't know that. She would be a breath of fresh air. She would spark enthusiaism within the party. Everyone else are all duds. Obama has charisma. So does Palin but she is a lot smarter common sense wise. She is not about class warfare or racial division. She has a record of executive experience that has positive results. Again, Obama has been a on the job training kind of guy who hasn't cut it. People said Reagan couldn't cut it. They said he was a kook. He was anything but.
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Would you be willing to make a "real man's bet" of $10,000 on that?
 
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Sarah Palin is the most dangerous woman in America. She has the potential - albeit small - to become President of the USA and bring this nation to corporate fascism.

No other woman could comes as close to destroying America as she could. We should be very thankful that the majority of people recognize her shortcomings and the actual chance she has of achieving the Presidency are tiny.
 
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Mycroft said:
Well, Shillie, you've really stirred them up with this thread...you have my gratz, dude.

Again, Shillie, gratz to you for starting this wonderful thread.
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lololololol
 
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johnny_rebson said:
Would you be willing to make a "real man's bet" of $10,000 on that?
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We'll talk when I get back. I'm headed out the door bass fishing for the rest of the day in my new Skeeter bass boat I bought this week. Take care.
 
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Shilliam Watner said:
We'll talk when I get back. I'm headed out the door bass fishing for the rest of the day in my new Skeeter bass boat I bought this week. Take care.
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Sounds like you're suffering pretty bad under horrible Obama regime. :lol:
 
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Shilliam Watner said:
You don't know that. She would be a breath of fresh air. She would spark enthusiaism within the party. Everyone else are all duds. Obama has charisma. So does Palin but she is a lot smarter common sense wise. She is not about class warfare or racial division. She has a record of executive experience that has positive results. Again, Obama has been a on the job training kind of guy who hasn't cut it. People said Reagan couldn't cut it. They said he was a kook. He was anything but. Now if you people will excuse me, I'm going bass fishing for the rest of the day. Good day folks.

Shilliam Watner
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She was "fresh air" 4 years ago. This time we've all heard her shtick. She has charisma, but no brain. She proved 4 years ago that she's not capable of doing anything more than spit out the talking points that someone else fed to her, and she didn't even do that right every time.

Obama hasn't cut the mustard. He's been a disappointment at nearly every turn. I don't want to vote for him, but if it saves us from her, I will.
 
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Shilliam Watner said:
She is what America needs. We need a non Washington Insider in office. She fits the bill. She doesn't take crap off anyone and exposes crony capitalism which is rampant in this country. The media falsely marginalized her and shape peoples perception of her in a negative light but people are actually waking up realizing she is not what they portrayed her to be. That is why there is all this talk of her entering the race. I welcome it for her stance on her knowledge of the oil and gas industry and her fiscal reforms.
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Maybe she can go to Oz and get the wizard to give her a brain and a heart. Then she could run.

This is a woman who couldn't even handle being governor of a state swimmng in oil revenues. How in the hell would she manage being President of the United States?
 
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Its funny how revisionist Palin's influence in the election of '08 has become. And if Zyphlin sees this, he will back me up on this as he kept an eye on this. Before McCain selected her he was getting crushed in every poll. He selects an unknown governor from Alaska, and based on the fact that she appealed to conservative voters, McCain gets a big bump in the polls . If people recall her one debate with Joe Biden, she fared fairly well. I recall her saying that they could see the affects of global warming in Alaska, and that her and Joe Biden actually agreed that there would be no pursuit of SSM by either potential administration. She had a terrible 60 minutes interview that kind of exposed her lack of experience and knowledge, but she did nothing controversial to infer that she is this horrible "danger to America" until well after the election was over. I would say the real damage Palin has done to her image with independent and moderate voters came in the speeches she gave in the run up to the midterms. There is where we saw that she is indeed unworthy of a vote for the presidency, and yes, it would be frightening if she were in charge. Obama was in a no lose position. He had one of the most hated presidents in recent history on the other side of the aisle to replace, coupled with his cult of personality status. IMO, Palin didn't scare many people away from McCain. I believe she drew in a crowd that was more scared of McCain than she pushed away. I think she kept McCain from looking like McGovern vs Reagan.

Now, she went off the deep end afterwards. That I agree. But I believe its basically horse**** that she ever cost McCain the election. That's just liberals making excuses for why they keep saying they would vote for a moderate republican, but when one runs they will find something they don't like because they don't actually want to vote for republicans in reality. If Romney wins the republican nomination (who is by all means a moderate), then watch for the attacks on his VP choice.
 
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Shilliam Watner said:
You don't know that. She would be a breath of fresh air. She would spark enthusiaism within the party. Everyone else are all duds. Obama has charisma. So does Palin but she is a lot smarter common sense wise
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Sarah Palin has common sense? This is a woman who preached abstinence as a form of birth control to her teenage daughter(s). And I must ask, does witchcraft require common sense?
 
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WI Crippler said:
Its funny how revisionist Palin's influence in the election of '08 has become. And if Zyphlin sees this, he will back me up on this as he kept an eye on this. Before McCain selected her he was getting crushed in every poll. He selects an unknown governor from Alaska, and based on the fact that she appealed to conservative voters, McCain gets a big bump in the polls .
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That bump was very short lived. She did nothing for McCain .
 
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Goshin said:
This probably belongs in Conspiracy Theory.
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I agree.

Its never going to happen.
 
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Mycroft said:
Here's my take: (btw, I'm not a Republican)
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"I'm not a Republican, I just can't see anything wrong with them. I mean, it's amazing. I don't belong to their party, but they can't do anything wrong."


1. Like any of the other Republicans, candidate or otherwise, she would be better in the Oval Office than Obama.
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As I've said, I'm not a fan of Obama's performance so far. There are politicians on both sides that I think would do far worse. Joe Biden is one. Harry Reid would be a disaster. Palin, however, is at the top of that list. If someone doesn't feed her the talking points, she has nothing to say, and when they do, she gets them wrong half of the time.

I have friends who ARE Republicans. Their opinion of Palin is NOT high. In fact, one or two of them have said that as much as they hate Obama, they'd sooner vote for him than they would Palin.

2. After the way the liberals...with the help of the liberal media...used their lies and smears to defeat McCain, I've suspected that the Republicans would use a "rope-a-dope" type tactic to combat the Democrats this time around. Your contention about a brokered convention being used to bring in another candidate would fall in line with my suspicions.
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Wait, I thought the official line was that McCain was a bad candidate. The media must have suddenly turned liberal in 2005. Either that or they "allowed" Bush to win the election. And his father, and Reagan, and Nixon.

3. As to whether Palin is the one picked by a brokered convention...I have my doubts. She has been so smeared and vilified by the left to this point, that...even though I agree that she would make a great President...I don't think she could get elected. The left has poisoned any chances she might have once had.
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She's poisoned her own chances by being an attention whore. Her bus tour was a bust. Who was it on this very forum who was talking about that "evil liberal media" following her around? Yeah, she put her face on the side of the bus, and it wasn't designed to get media attention....OK.

4. There are other Republicans out there who would have more of a chance. Others who have stayed under the liberal radar, so to speak. I think one of them could be chosen.
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And they're not getting the media attention because they're not running. Funny how that works.
 
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Shilliam Watner said:
She is what America needs. We need a non Washington Insider in office. She fits the bill. She doesn't take crap off anyone and exposes crony capitalism which is rampant in this country. The media falsely marginalized her and shape peoples perception of her in a negative light but people are actually waking up realizing she is not what they portrayed her to be. That is why there is all this talk of her entering the race. I welcome it for her stance on her knowledge of the oil and gas industry and her fiscal reforms.
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On the national stage she is a MORON! SHe is not what we need at all and in real life ive never met anybody that would vote fer her only on line LOL Im fine with a nontraditional nominee but they still have to know about national and world issues, she doesnt. SHes lied for personal reasons and has her own scandals, no thanks, she doesnt belong and where neeeeeeear the white house LMAO
 
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Shilliam Watner said:
The reason the elitist don't want her in the White House is because she would clean up corruption and crony capitalism and put people in jail like she did in Alaska. She even exposed corruption in her own party. She would not get destroyed in a presidential race. Obama has nothing positive to run on pertaining to his record. His vetting is just beginning. Also his documents pertaining to his birth certificate and selective service card have been confirmed forgeries by a authoritative law enforcement agency, the Maricopa County Sheriffs Department.
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Well you just proved how much you dont know about her, she is ALREADY CORRUPTED LMAO and now with the mention of Obama birth certificate no objective adult will take you seriously any more, I was struggling to do it just becaus of your blind support of palin now I know for sure you dont desrve any LOL

clean up co
 
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AdamT said:
Sounds like you're suffering pretty bad under horrible Obama regime. :lol:
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Probably gets the money from cousin WIlliam Shatner :)
 
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WI Crippler said:
She had a terrible 60 minutes interview that kind of exposed her lack of experience and knowledge, but she did nothing controversial to infer that she is this horrible "danger to America" until well after the election was over.
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Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue."

McCain sources say Palin has gone off-message several times, and they privately wonder whether the incidents were deliberate. They cited an instance in which she labeled robocalls -- recorded messages often used to attack a candidate's opponent -- "irritating" even as the campaign defended their use. Also, they pointed to her telling reporters she disagreed with the campaign's decision to pull out of Michigan.

"She's no longer playing for 2008; she's playing 2012," Democratic pollster Peter Hart said. "And the difficulty is, when she went on 'Saturday Night Live,' she became a reinforcement of her caricature. She never allowed herself to be vetted, and at the end of the day, voters turned against her both in terms of qualifications and personally."

Palin's 'going rogue,' McCain aide says - CNN
dateline October 25th, 2008

More than ample evidence that Palin had decided that her veep spot was nothing more than a stepping stone for her own personal ambitions, to hell with the overall campaign. If that's not a dangerous mindset, I don't know what is.
 
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rocket88 said:
1. "I'm not a Republican, I just can't see anything wrong with them. I mean, it's amazing. I don't belong to their party, but they can't do anything wrong."

2. As I've said, I'm not a fan of Obama's performance so far. There are politicians on both sides that I think would do far worse. Joe Biden is one. Harry Reid would be a disaster. Palin, however, is at the top of that list. If someone doesn't feed her the talking points, she has nothing to say, and when they do, she gets them wrong half of the time.

I have friends who ARE Republicans. Their opinion of Palin is NOT high. In fact, one or two of them have said that as much as they hate Obama, they'd sooner vote for him than they would Palin.

3. Wait, I thought the official line was that McCain was a bad candidate. The media must have suddenly turned liberal in 2005. Either that or they "allowed" Bush to win the election. And his father, and Reagan, and Nixon.

4. She's poisoned her own chances by being an attention whore. Her bus tour was a bust. Who was it on this very forum who was talking about that "evil liberal media" following her around? Yeah, she put her face on the side of the bus, and it wasn't designed to get media attention....OK.

5. And they're not getting the media attention because they're not running. Funny how that works.
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1. LOL!!! Sorry, dude, but your characterization of me bears no correlation to reality. I can see plenty wrong with the Republicans. I can also see plenty that is correct with them. You see, it's because I'm a conservative...but not a Republican...that allows me to objectively look at them and compare them to the left.

2. Okay. Hey, you know what they say, right? Opinions are like ass holes...we all got one. I just don't happen to agree with yours...or your friend's opinions. My take, as I said, is that ANY Republican is better than Obama.

3. Well, I don't know about any "official line"...whatever THAT is. I tend to make up my own mind about things instead of relying on an "official line". But you go right on ahead and follow it.

4. No, Palin was toast just as soon as McCain mentioned her name. But, perhaps you don't remember those days, eh? Oh, well.

5. And that's a good thing...that they are not getting media attention, that is. But if, as Shillie says, there is a brokered convention...I wouldn't be surprised to see somebody other than the established candidates...or Palin, of course...come to the forefront. Yes, the world can be a funny place, for sure.
 
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Mycroft said:
Well, Shillie, you've really stirred them up with this thread...you have my gratz, dude.

Here's my take: (btw, I'm not a Republican)

1. Like any of the other Republicans, candidate or otherwise, she would be better in the Oval Office than Obama.

2. After the way the liberals...with the help of the liberal media...used their lies and smears to defeat McCain, I've suspected that the Republicans would use a "rope-a-dope" type tactic to combat the Democrats this time around. Your contention about a brokered convention being used to bring in another candidate would fall in line with my suspicions.

3. As to whether Palin is the one picked by a brokered convention...I have my doubts. She has been so smeared and vilified by the left to this point, that...even though I agree that she would make a great President...I don't think she could get elected. The left has poisoned any chances she might have once had.

4. There are other Republicans out there who would have more of a chance. Others who have stayed under the liberal radar, so to speak. I think one of them could be chosen.

Again, Shillie, gratz to you for starting this wonderful thread.
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He only stirred things up because he presented a completely absurd concept and people couldn't believe he was actually serious.
 
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haymarket said:
Sarah Palin is the most dangerous woman in America. She has the potential - albeit small - to become President of the USA and bring this nation to corporate fascism.

No other woman could comes as close to destroying America as she could. We should be very thankful that the majority of people recognize her shortcomings and the actual chance she has of achieving the Presidency are tiny.
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FASCISM? Really?
 
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WI Crippler said:
Its funny how revisionist Palin's influence in the election of '08 has become. And if Zyphlin sees this, he will back me up on this as he kept an eye on this. Before McCain selected her he was getting crushed in every poll. He selects an unknown governor from Alaska, and based on the fact that she appealed to conservative voters, McCain gets a big bump in the polls . If people recall her one debate with Joe Biden, she fared fairly well. I recall her saying that they could see the affects of global warming in Alaska, and that her and Joe Biden actually agreed that there would be no pursuit of SSM by either potential administration. She had a terrible 60 minutes interview that kind of exposed her lack of experience and knowledge, but she did nothing controversial to infer that she is this horrible "danger to America" until well after the election was over. I would say the real damage Palin has done to her image with independent and moderate voters came in the speeches she gave in the run up to the midterms. There is where we saw that she is indeed unworthy of a vote for the presidency, and yes, it would be frightening if she were in charge. Obama was in a no lose position. He had one of the most hated presidents in recent history on the other side of the aisle to replace, coupled with his cult of personality status. IMO, Palin didn't scare many people away from McCain. I believe she drew in a crowd that was more scared of McCain than she pushed away. I think she kept McCain from looking like McGovern vs Reagan.

Now, she went off the deep end afterwards. That I agree. But I believe its basically horse**** that she ever cost McCain the election. That's just liberals making excuses for why they keep saying they would vote for a moderate republican, but when one runs they will find something they don't like because they don't actually want to vote for republicans in reality. If Romney wins the republican nomination (who is by all means a moderate), then watch for the attacks on his VP choice.
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Palin did two things for the Republican ticket in 2008.

1- She brought in new energy and new money and pumped up the campaign for a few weeks after the convention.
2- she doomed the ticket to failure when then nation got to know who it was behind the lipstick and form fitting outfits.

read the book GAME CHANGE or see the film of the same name for the inside on the Biden debate performance.
 
Shilliam Watner said:
Not true at all. Palin actually brought McCain ahead in the polls and helped him not get annihilated by being clobbered more on election night. Palin can actually beat Obama head to head. You ought to watch her debates with Governors Frank Murkowski and Tony Knowles. She was vicious attacking them. Her attacks on Obama during the mid terms brought pain and agony to Obama's endorsements and him to, especially on the death panels in his healthcare plan. Again, as President Clinton stated "Do not underestimate this woman. She is resilient like me".

Here is what Newt had to say about her comparing her to Obama. The reporters response was epic. Take a listen.

Newt Gingrich on Sarah Palin and Barack Obama - YouTube
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You are delusional. The people who dislike her the most are independents.

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Shilliam Watner said:
She is what America needs. We need a non Washington Insider in office. She fits the bill. She doesn't take crap off anyone and exposes crony capitalism which is rampant in this country. The media marginalized her and shape peoples perception of her in a negative light but people are actually waking up realizing she is not what they portrayed her to be. That is why there is all this talk of her entering the race. I welcome it for her stance on her knowledge of the oil and gas industry and her fiscal reforms.
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she's may not be an insider but she is their shrill. App she does is regurgitate taking points.

I'll give get some credit for taking on big oil in Alaska though.

Edit: I didn't vote for McCain because of Palin. Why? It showed how much cowtowing McCain would do for the support of the republican populist base

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Shilliam Watner said:
...He can't run on his record at all. That is why he is going to deflect from the issues and cause racial strife and division this election season.....
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how's he gonna do that, by suggesting his opponent isn't a natural-born citizen?
 
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Mycroft said:
3. Well, I don't know about any "official line"...whatever THAT is. I tend to make up my own mind about things instead of relying on an "official line". But you go right on ahead and follow it.

4. No, Palin was toast just as soon as McCain mentioned her name. But, perhaps you don't remember those days, eh? Oh, well.
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I've heard it said many times by Conservatives that McCain lost because he wasn't a good candidate.

Nobody knew or cared about Palin before McCain picked her. So, no surprise that she got toasted. Of course, she gave more than enough ammo to attack her with.


It must be so hard to be Conservative. Everybody's out to get you all the time. I wonder why they couldn't keep Bush from winning...

I don't deny that much media has a liberal bent. I just find it funny that the former party of "personal responsibility" is now the party of "blame it on the media." If Conservatives don't like the liberal media, they are free to start their own outlets, or buy some of the liberal ones. Welcome to what we call a free press and a free market.
 
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