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Santorum - not into porn...

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Rick Santorum wants to ban hard-core pornography
By Dylan Stableford | The Ticket – 4 hrs ago

Rick Santorum wants to put an end to the distribution of pornography in the United States.

"America is suffering a pandemic of harm from pornography," Santorum's official website reads. "Pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships. It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking."
The former Pennsylvania senator states that, "as a parent, I am concerned about the widespread distribution of illegal obscene pornography and its profound effects on our culture."
Santorum criticized the Obama administration for turning "a blind eye ... to the scourge of pornography" and for refusing to enforce obscenity laws.
"If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so," Santorum writes. "While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum Administration."

Rick Santorum wants to ban hard-core pornography | The Ticket - Yahoo! News
 
This guy just keeps digging deeper and deeper....

Obama promoting porn. What will he think up next?

Is it any wonder, if he in fact said all this, that mainstream America considers him to be a quack?
 
This guy just keeps digging deeper and deeper....

Obama promoting porn. What will he think up next?

Is it any wonder, if he in fact said all this, that mainstream America considers him to be a quack?


I'm sure someone hacked onto his website and posted all of this to try to make sure Obama gets the porn industry union vote in november...seems logical...
 
I'm sure someone hacked onto his website and posted all of this to try to make sure Obama gets the porn industry union vote in november...seems logical...

Sho' you right.
 
A friend of mine posted this on Facebook a couple of hours ago. I almost started a thread about it. So damn you for beating me to the punch!

Seriously though, Santorum's really not thinking this through. People like porn, and it's a first amendment issue. This is not a winning strategy for him.
 
I think pornograpy is just as corrosive to society as Santorum does, but he's wasting time about talk of banning it. It's just like the war on drugs, it's like trying to put whipped cream back in the spray can. Hasn't he heard of the recent invention called the internet? All the porn in the world can be made in one studio and distributed world wide, and unless he wants to go through an IP address crackdown nationwide (he won't), it's just empty rhetoric.
 
Oh...my...gosh....
Rick Santorum...by damn gonna PROVE he's a 'real' conservative. This guy is such a pandering dickhead.
 
Rick Santorum wants to ban hard-core pornography
By Dylan Stableford | The Ticket – 4 hrs ago

Rick Santorum wants to put an end to the distribution of pornography in the United States.

"America is suffering a pandemic of harm from pornography," Santorum's official website reads. "Pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships. It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking."
The former Pennsylvania senator states that, "as a parent, I am concerned about the widespread distribution of illegal obscene pornography and its profound effects on our culture."
Santorum criticized the Obama administration for turning "a blind eye ... to the scourge of pornography" and for refusing to enforce obscenity laws.
"If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so," Santorum writes. "While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum Administration."

Rick Santorum wants to ban hard-core pornography | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

It hasn't hurt my marriage any.

Maybe some of us are juts better at this marriage thing then.
 
True, but the individual states could regulate it to death, see: L.A.'s attempts to require condoms to be used in porn filming.

stupid regulation, IMO. For the most part the industry and actors/actresses themselves are well aware of the risks involved and take the necessary precautions.
 
If I were a member of anonymous I dont know how Id be able to resist making his campaign site into a porn site.
Talk about making yourself a target....
 
Rick Santorum wants to ban hard-core pornography
By Dylan Stableford | The Ticket – 4 hrs ago

Rick Santorum wants to put an end to the distribution of pornography in the United States.

"America is suffering a pandemic of harm from pornography," Santorum's official website reads. "Pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships. It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking."
The former Pennsylvania senator states that, "as a parent, I am concerned about the widespread distribution of illegal obscene pornography and its profound effects on our culture."
Santorum criticized the Obama administration for turning "a blind eye ... to the scourge of pornography" and for refusing to enforce obscenity laws.
"If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so," Santorum writes. "While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum Administration."

Rick Santorum wants to ban hard-core pornography | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

He wants to enforce laws that are already on the books?
 
But you gotta give it up to Santorum.....he's sticking to his Conservative roots no matter what, he's the least likely to flip-flop of all the candidates.
 
I wonder if the porn industry is any more dangerous than being in the miltary, being a cop or working on an oil rig?

I have been all three. And I always got ****ed just the same. I wonder how the pay compares.
 
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True, but the individual states could regulate it to death, see: L.A.'s attempts to require condoms to be used in porn filming.


They can't regulate it "to death," they can regulate it to the extent allowable by the first amendment. Incidentally, the federal government could do the same thing. Actually, almost literally the exact same thing. The condom issue is an interesting one, though. Since that has almost no impact on content, and serves a compelling governmental interest (I'm deliberately using ConLaw buzzwords here) it's almost certainly Constitutional.
 
But you gotta give it up to Santorum.....he's sticking to his Conservative roots no matter what, he's the least likely to flip-flop of all the candidates.

Sure...as Long as he is just a candidate. Remember...that's the guy that in 2008 endorsed Romney and his strong conservative credentials.
 
I actually should have said this in my first post in this thread, but I was too busy being snarky. What Santorum has actually said is that he's planning to push to ban obscenity, not pornography. From a constitutional standpoint, these are wildly distinguishable things. Things that have been deemed obscene can be, under the relevant first amendment precedent, banned. Pornography as such cannot be. It sounds an awful lot like Santorum would like to widen the definition of obscenity.
 
Rick Santorum wants to ban hard-core pornography
By Dylan Stableford | The Ticket – 4 hrs ago

Rick Santorum wants to put an end to the distribution of pornography in the United States.

"America is suffering a pandemic of harm from pornography," Santorum's official website reads. "Pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships. It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking."
The former Pennsylvania senator states that, "as a parent, I am concerned about the widespread distribution of illegal obscene pornography and its profound effects on our culture."
Santorum criticized the Obama administration for turning "a blind eye ... to the scourge of pornography" and for refusing to enforce obscenity laws.
"If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so," Santorum writes. "While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum Administration."

Rick Santorum wants to ban hard-core pornography | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

I will be voting for the Republican nominee regardless of who it is. However, I am not a "social conservative" and I don't agree with Rick's social conservative views (for example, he thinks there should be no abortions no matter what the situation). And now there is this...he wants to be a big government social conservative and restrict what a married couple watches in the privacy of their own home. That is really not a good idea Rick!
 
Sure...as Long as he is just a candidate. Remember...that's the guy that in 2008 endorsed Romney and his strong conservative credentials.

Yep, it's a total myth that Santorum has always been a reliable conservative. Remember when he told George H.W. Bush that Republicans were making a mistake by not embracing health care reform?
 
I actually should have said this in my first post in this thread, but I was too busy being snarky. What Santorum has actually said is that he's planning to push to ban obscenity, not pornography. From a constitutional standpoint, these are wildly distinguishable things. Things that have been deemed obscene can be, under the relevant first amendment precedent, banned. Pornography as such cannot be. It sounds an awful lot like Santorum would like to widen the definition of obscenity.

In the United States, obscenity is defined by the Miller test.

1. Whether "the average person, applying contemporary community standards", would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest,
2. Whether the work depicts/describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable state law,
3. Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value.

The work is considered obscene only if all three conditions are satisfied.

That would, in effect, ban pornography in the United States if it were enforced.

On the other hand, it might lead to pornography with much better plots. :mrgreen:

But in all seriousness, Santorum would have a very hard time enforcing laws against pornography. Prior precedent has shown that the "community standards" can be established by the number of people who are purchasing or viewing the content. Thanks to Google, we now know that most pornography just happens to be viewed in the most conservative areas of our country. In effect, the conservative community has spoken about its standards since it has engaged in the practice of viewing and downloading pornography at considerably high rates for years.
 
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Yo' peeplez...

We got'z a war going on. We got kids bitch slapping their teachers. We got crackhead mom's leaving their babies with grandma for months on end. We got people who have given up on the idea of finding a job. We got our government assuring corporate CEO's million dollar bonuses while me and you are having our houses taken away. We got potholes in our streets. We got Snooky.

Why is anybody giving a damn about porn?
 
But you gotta give it up to Santorum.....he's sticking to his Conservative roots no matter what, he's the least likely to flip-flop of all the candidates.

The Taliban are like that too. They never flip flop and punish anyone who disagrees with them.
 
But you gotta give it up to Santorum.....he's sticking to his Conservative roots no matter what, he's the least likely to flip-flop of all the candidates.

Most def. You gotta give him that.

You always know that if Santorum is an idiot on Monday, he'll be an idiot on Friday.
 
That would, in effect, ban pornography in the United States if it were enforced.

This is what gets you into trouble.

I'm aware of the Miller test. I'm an attorney. I took two semesters of Constitutional law, plus another semester just on the first amendment. You're absolutely right that the Miller test is the controlling definition of obscenity, but based on the precedent that I've seen, the Miller test does not ban pornography.
 
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