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Obama rebounds in PEW Research poll, leading Romney 54-42 among potential voters

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I am no believer in polls....however.... just as my fellow Republicans, I have decided to provide the Debate Politics Community with a wide range of polling regarding a general election matchup with the President facing Mitt Romney. Obama is leading BIG in the latest PEW Research poll and is also leading in the majority of the other polls conducted. He trails Mitt Romney in the latest Rasmussen Poll by 2 points. If you average out the polls, Obama holds a convincing lead even with increasing fuel prices. (Source: Real Clear Politics)

Obama leads BIG in PEW Research Poll, Leads in majority of polls (including Fox News), Trails Romney in Rasmussen RealClearPolitics - Latest Polls


While I am FIRM believer that Polls at this point have no meaning, I felt the need to counter these crazy recent claims that fuel prices are drastically hurting Obama in the polls.


All excuses welcomed in this thread.
 
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I'll respond for the Conservatives on this forum:

"It's too early to call anything."
 
Jredbaron96 said:
I'll respond for the Conservatives on this forum:

"It's too early to call anything."
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I tell ya what, why dont you stick to representing yourself.

SypherAL from the poll :

24R 34D 36I 3 No preference 1other 2 Don't Know 16Leans R 17Leans D.

So if you poll 51 Dem you get a good result for Obama, who the **** knew?
 
All Democrats need keep doing is reminding of Santorum explaining that a teenage girl or women made pregnant by a rapist has received "a gift from God" in the rapist's baby that all Republican candidates want to force her to have - and to remind voters that women who use contraceptives are engaging in sexual perversion.

This attaches to all Republican candidates, like it or not. Romney is SOOOOO afraid of the Republican religious right he is afraid to condemn Santorum's statements - so he gets to buy it too.
 
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joko104 said:
All Democrats need keep doing is reminding of Santorum explaining that a teenage girl or women made pregnant by a rapist has received "a gift from God" in the rapist's baby that all Republican candidates want to force her to have - and to remind voters that women who use contraceptives are engaging in sexual perversion.

This attaches to all Republican candidates, like it or not. Romney is SOOOOO afraid of the Republican religious right he is afraid to condemn Santorum's statements - so he gets to buy it too.
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What kind of retarded logic is this?
Does that mean because Obama doesnt speak out about China's human rights abuses and praises China, hes in the human rights abuser boat?

Terrible post.
 
OpportunityCost said:
What kind of retarded logic is this?
Does that mean because Obama doesnt speak out about China's human rights abuses and praises China, hes in the human rights abuser boat?

Terrible post.
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No its not. Romney also has declared "human life begins at conception," so removing "God" from Santorum's statement, it also is Romney's. Romney also has spoken on the topic of contraception - and it is not only what a candidate says on a topic, but what he then also excludes.

Regardless, polls show it is losing 1.) women voters and 2.) Latino voters as to why Republicans are crashing in the polls.

Less than 30% of voters want all abortions outlawed and less than 5% oppose contraceptives.

(PS, Obama has been criticized for not condemning China on human rights. But this isn't China and China doesn't control the human rights of Americans - so your's is the "terrible post.")
 
OpportunityCost said:
I tell ya what, why dont you stick to representing yourself.

SypherAL from the poll :

24R 34D 36I 3 No preference 1other 2 Don't Know 16Leans R 17Leans D.

So if you poll 51 Dem you get a good result for Obama, who the **** knew?
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Jesus, if it's that big a deal, just say so!
 
OpportunityCost said:
I tell ya what, why dont you stick to representing yourself.

SypherAL from the poll :

24R 34D 36I 3 No preference 1other 2 Don't Know 16Leans R 17Leans D.

So if you poll 51 Dem you get a good result for Obama, who the **** knew?
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Here is the poll: http://www.people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/03-14-12 Political Release.pdf


Republicans 412 6.0 percentage points
Democrats 518 5.0 percentage points
Independents 507 5.5 percentage points
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That is not our of bounds of being representative.

Edit: however, of course, reading any meaning into polls as far as November is silly.
 
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The latest DanaRhea poll just came out. It includes one respondent, danarhea.

The poll says that 100% of respondents are sick to death of polls. :mrgreen:
 
If anything has been shown about polls, they are at best accurate only the day they are taken.
I do believe that Rick Perry is not going to be the Republican nominee, Santorum didn't win Ohio and Gingrich really didn't win Alabama or Mississippi. So much for polls.
 
Unless something totally earth-shattering and cataclysmic occurs, Obama would have told the truth in 2009, that he'd be a 1 termer if the economy didn't improve. Let's face it, in 2008, Nobody, other then the 2nd coming of Christ, could've beaten Obama. 2008 was the height of his popularity. But the Obama of 2008 no longer exists, and much of the country had more then enough of him. Despite his popularity, he barely beat McCain. I think he won by like 6-8%. Now in 2012 he has a miserable record to defend; and if the Republican candidate focuses on the right things, Obama will be defeated in a landslide. I think judging by the sentiment of the country, the GOP can easily pick up that 6%!

It should be of no coincidence that Obama's approval is about equal to the amount of people recieving government hand-outs!
 
The Prophet said:
Unless something totally earth-shattering and cataclysmic occurs, Obama would have told the truth in 2009, that he'd be a 1 termer if the economy didn't improve. Let's face it, in 2008, Nobody, other then the 2nd coming of Christ, could've beaten Obama. 2008 was the height of his popularity. But the Obama of 2008 no longer exists, and much of the country had more then enough of him. Despite his popularity, he barely beat McCain. I think he won by like 6-8%. Now in 2012 he has a miserable record to defend; and if the Republican candidate focuses on the right things, Obama will be defeated in a landslide. I think judging by the sentiment of the country, the GOP can easily pick up that 6%!

It should be of no coincidence that Obama's approval is about equal to the amount of people recieving government hand-outs!
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The economy has in fact improved, so he will probably be reelected unless it stalls out or backslides.

Remember Reagan's famous campaign slogan? Are you better off than you were four years ago? Today, more people say yes than no.

Despite their concerns about the government's impact on the current investment climate, investors are optimistic about their current financial situation as well as prospects for their children. When asked to compare their financial position today to that of more than three years ago -- prior to the last presidential election -- 40% say their financial position is much better (13%) or somewhat better (27%). Another 27% say that their position is worse, with 19% saying "somewhat worse" and 8% saying "much worse." Thirty-two percent say their position is neither better nor worse.

Politically Divided Federal Gov't Worries U.S. Investors
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AdamT said:
The economy has in fact improved, so he will probably be reelected unless it stalls out or backslides.

Remember Reagan's famous campaign slogan? Are you better off than you were four years ago? Today, more people say yes than no.
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I don't buy that. Sure, the economy has picked up if you live on Wall Street. But in my neck of the woods, and at my job, they are still cutting my hours and on a permanent hiring freeze. I should be getting 40 hours a week, but I'm getting around 25, and had to drop my dental. Did you say the economy is improving?
 
The Prophet said:
I don't buy that. Sure, the economy has picked up if you live on Wall Street. But in my neck of the woods, and at my job, they are still cutting my hours and on a permanent hiring freeze. I should be getting 40 hours a week, but I'm getting around 25, and had to drop my dental. Did you say the economy is improving?
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In general, overall, the economy of the USA is getting better.
 
Thunder said:
that's an interesting response. I guess you can't refute my point.
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There's really nothing to refute. I mean, sure he was handed a terrible circumstance, but he campaigned to inherit it, as well as spent million$. Bush might've gotten us in a ditch, but Obama didn't pull us out; if anything he has stepped on the accelerator and driven us farther into the ditch.
 
Thunder said:
In general, overall, the economy of the USA is getting better.
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Wow, that sure shut me up! Way to put me in my place. I'm just not feeling a "recovery" vibe. And judging by the unemployment numbers, neither is the rest of America.
 
The Prophet said:
I don't buy that. Sure, the economy has picked up if you live on Wall Street. But in my neck of the woods, and at my job, they are still cutting my hours and on a permanent hiring freeze. I should be getting 40 hours a week, but I'm getting around 25, and had to drop my dental. Did you say the economy is improving?
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Do you think it's valid to extrapolate from your particular job and employer to the whole country? Should we give more credibility to that extrapolation than we do to the rafts of economic indicators pointing to a pretty healthy recovery? Unemployment is falling, manufacturing is growing, consumer confidence and spending are increasing, stock markets are rising, etc. Whether you buy it or not.
 
AdamT said:
Do you think it's valid to extrapolate from your particular job and employer to the whole country? Should we give more credibility to that extrapolation than we do to the rafts of economic indicators pointing to a pretty healthy recovery? Unemployment is falling, manufacturing is growing, consumer confidence and spending are increasing, stock markets are rising, etc. Whether you buy it or not.
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Well the fact is that Obama said if we enacted his massive spending plan, that unemployment wouldn't go above 8%. Did he lie or is he just ignorant? Now at my job, and in my community, times are not good, but neither do I know anyone who is doing any better then they were before Obama took over.

I don't think anyone should be surprised. I mean, didn't we ask for this when we voted for a celebrity to run the country?
 
The Prophet said:
Well the fact is that Obama said if we enacted his massive spending plan, that unemployment wouldn't go above 8%. Did he lie or is he just ignorant? Now at my job, and in my community, times are not good, but neither do I know anyone who is doing any better then they were before Obama took over.

I don't think anyone should be surprised. I mean, didn't we ask for this when we voted for a celebrity to run the country?
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what was GDP on January 21st, 2009?

where was the stock market on January 21st, 2009?

in which direction was unemployment going, on January 21st, 2009?

you can ignore all the signs...all you like. But the fact is our economy is getting better.
 
Thunder said:
what was GDP on January 21st, 2009?

where was the stock market on January 21st, 2009?

in which direction was unemployment going, on January 21st, 2009?

you can ignore all the signs...all you like. But the fact is our economy is getting better.
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So we just disregard everything the President says? He said that if we'd pass his massive spending package, that unemployment wouldn't go past 8%. He was wrong. He said in 2009 that he'd be a 1 term President if he couldn't turn this around. I'm not convinced that he did, and I guess we will see in November if America as a whole, is convinced?
 
The Prophet said:
So we just disregard everything the President says? He said that if we'd pass his massive spending package, that unemployment wouldn't go past 8%. He was wrong. He said in 2009 that he'd be a 1 term President if he couldn't turn this around. I'm not convinced that he did, and I guess we will see in November if America as a whole, is convinced?
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Election Day, 2012...is a referendum on his Presidency.
 
OpportunityCost said:
I tell ya what, why dont you stick to representing yourself.

SypherAL from the poll :

24R 34D 36I 3 No preference 1other 2 Don't Know 16Leans R 17Leans D.

So if you poll 51 Dem you get a good result for Obama, who the **** knew?
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Have you looked at how other polls are done? No Zogby is not a reliable polling agency.. but the rest? They pretty much have the same split, and those that are most "off" often favor one side or the other more than they should.
 
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