Latino voters favor Obama 6-1 over any current Republican nominee

PeteEU · Mar 12, 2012

This has a huge impact on the GOP and they are either too stupid or delusional to see it.

Latino and other minorities, who all vote Democrat far more than Republican, will within a decade or so be the majority of the population. Hence the GOP will not be able to win dog catcher elections if they continue down this road of pissing off the latino community and other minorities.

And it does not help that they have huge double standards (aka being hypocrites) when it comes to voter fraud. And when they finally do get busted then they complain over the judicial system...

Former Indiana Secretary Of State Charlie White Calls Voter Fraud Verdict 'a Travesty' | Fox News

Fact is, most investigations into voter fraud have turned pretty much nothing, and especially nothing that could influence an election in any meaningful way.

The big question is when Romeny will be going to jail for his voter fraud.

Camlon · Mar 12, 2012

This is even worse than I thought. John McCain lost hispanics 67 to 31%. Now only 14 against 70% of hispanics would vote for Romney.

Lets say this is the results, Blacks vote for Obama 95 to 5% and represent 14% of the voting share, and hispanics and others vote 80 to 20% for Obama and also represent 14% of the voting share. If this is the results, for Romney to win, he will need to get 65% of the whites votes. That is higher than Reagan. Romney got no chance against Obama, and Republicans really need to rethink their strategy. Back in 2004, 44% of Hispanics voted for Bush.

Romney, really is a disaster for the GOP, and more people on this forum should have seen that Romney was never a good candidate. The only ones who really like Romney are rich white people, which tend to be the demographics on this forum. However, poor voters see Romney as a man who lacks integrity and values, a man who supports the bankers, a man who is part of the corrupt GOP establishment. Hispanics tend to be poorer. I am not saying Gingrich or Santorum is any better, but that Romney is a terrible choice.

I am also glad to hear that Romney got no chance. Republicans are not in any shape ready to lead the country, and way too corrupt. If Democrats keep winning for a while, maybe that can be a lesson for establishment republicans.

AdamT · Mar 12, 2012

Sparky said:
This coming from the one that stated the auto bailout saved millions and milions and millions of jobs and the stimulous effect was 23 consecutive months of continuous job growth.

And this from the guy who keeps lying about what I said, even though he's already been corrected at least twice. :roll:

Ockham · Mar 12, 2012

AdamT said:
And this from the guy who keeps lying about what I said, even though he's already been corrected at least twice. :roll:

If he deems you as incorrect, why would you correcting what he already sees as incorrect change anything? Certainly you see the futility of such a thing....

AdamT · Mar 12, 2012

Ockham said:
If he deems you as incorrect, why would you correcting what he already sees as incorrect change anything? Certainly you see the futility of such a thing....

He's welcome to disagree with analysis, but he's not welcome to lie about what I actually said -- which is what he does.

Ockham · Mar 12, 2012

AdamT said:
He's welcome to disagree with analysis, but he's not welcome to lie about what I actually said -- which is what he does.

My point is if he disagrees with you, how is your correcting him twice going improve things?

Sparky · Mar 12, 2012

AdamT said:
And this from the guy who keeps lying about what I said, even though he's already been corrected at least twice. :roll:

You want to call call me a liar?

http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-us-presidential-election/119952-2012-never-26.html#post1060246168

AdamT said:
Actual results? Like GM retaking the top spot as the number one vehicle manufacturer in the world? Like record profits? Like a resurgent Chrysler? Like millions of jobs saved? Are those the actual results you're ignoring?

Do note that GM/Chrysler only has 260,000 employees but Adam still insist on over inflating the false facts that auto bail out saved MILLIONS of jobs.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-us-presidential-election/119952-2012-never-31.html#post1060247213

AdamT said:
Millions. Really.

And here's more false facts from Adam claiming that the effect from the stimulous created 23 consecutive months of jobs growth:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-us-presidential-election/119952-2012-never-31.html#post1060247213

AdamT said:
The biggest numbers come from the supplier network and the surrounding communities that rely on them. If it makes you feel better, call it one to two million. :shrug:

Why can't conservatives look at the facts -- 23 consecutive months of jobs growth, bull market, record corporate profits, consistent manufacturing growth, best consumer confidence in years -- and admit that the stimulus worked? You can do it!

Who's the liar now Adam?

Sparky · Mar 12, 2012

Ockham said:
My point is if he disagrees with you, how is your correcting him twice going improve things?

As you can see, I just debunked another one of Adams false facts.

Gimmesometruth · Mar 12, 2012

Sparky said:
Do note that GM/Chrysler only has 260,000 employees but Adam still insist on over inflating the false facts that auto bail out saved MILLIONS of jobs.

Four years later, there are 1.45 million people who are working as a direct result of the $80 billion bailout, according to the nonpartisan Center for Automotive Research, both at the carmakers and associated businesses downstream in the economy. Michigan’s unemployment level is at its lowest level in three years. G.M. is again the world’s biggest automaker, and both companies are reporting substantial profits.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/26/opinion/sunday/a-million-jobs.html?_r=2&ref=opinion

The U.S. government provided $80 billion in total assistance to General Motors, GMAC, Chrysler and
Chrysler Financial, and stands to recover a substantial amount of this financial assistance through
upcoming sales of stock in the Initial Public Offerings (IPOs) at General Motors and Chrysler. To date,
$13.4 billion in principal has already been repaid, which brings the total remaining outstanding
government investment to $66.6 billion. The updated analysis contained in this memo demonstrates that
even if the net return to the U.S. Treasury is $28.6 billion (the amount of the net public benefit of the
government intervention) lower than the outstanding public investment in these two companies, or $38
billion, the public will have at least met a two-year break-even. This means that if the Treasury recovers
$0.57 on the dollar or more in upcoming equity sales, the public will have been made fully whole.
Additionally, the government’s actions avoided personal income losses totaling over $96 billion, 1.1
million net job losses in 2009, and another 314,400 in 2010.

http://pdfsearchdownload.com/The-Impact-on-the-U.S.-Economy-of-the-Successful-Automaker-....html#

SypherAL · Mar 12, 2012

If Obama carries 80-90% of the black vote and 70-80% of the latino vote, this election will be a landslide of epic proportions. The ONLY way Mitt Romney can beat Obama is if he can regain ground with women and carry 70-80% of them, which is impossible. I'm sorry, but this election is over. I noticed Mitt Romney is now leading Obama according to Rasmussen in a NATIONAL POLL, however, well all know national polls dont mean anything in a general election, its all about the swing states. Obama leads in every swing state as we speak.

Gimmesometruth · Mar 12, 2012

SypherAL said:
If Obama carries 80-90% of the black vote and 70-80% of the latino vote, this election will be a landslide of epic proportions. The ONLY way Mitt Romney can beat Obama is if he can regain ground with women and carry 70-80% of them, which is impossible. I'm sorry, but this election is over. I noticed Mitt Romney is now leading Obama according to Rasmussen in a NATIONAL POLL, however, well all know national polls dont mean anything in a general election, its all about the swing states. Obama leads in every swing state as we speak.

“We all agreed that this seemed like a throwback to 40 years ago,” said Ms. Russell, 57, a retired teacher from Iowa City who describes herself as an evangelical Christian and “old school” Republican of the moderate mold.

Until the baby shower, just two weeks ago, she had favored Mitt Romney for president.

Not anymore. She said she might vote for President Obama now. “I didn’t realize I had a strong viewpoint on this until these conversations,” Ms. Russell said. As for the Republican presidential candidates, she added: “If they’re going to decide on women’s reproductive issues, I’m not going to vote for any of them. Women’s reproduction is our own business.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/u...gop.html?pagewanted=all&src=ISMR_AP_LO_MST_FB

AdamT · Mar 12, 2012

Sparky said:
You want to call call me a liar?

http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-us-presidential-election/119952-2012-never-26.html#post1060246168

Do note that GM/Chrysler only has 260,000 employees but Adam still insist on over inflating the false facts that auto bail out saved MILLIONS of jobs.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-us-presidential-election/119952-2012-never-31.html#post1060247213

And here's more false facts from Adam claiming that the effect from the stimulous created 23 consecutive months of jobs growth:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-us-presidential-election/119952-2012-never-31.html#post1060247213

Who's the liar now Adam?

Yep, I want to call you a liar. First, millions of jobs saved does not equal "millions and millions and millions of jobs", which is what you claimed I said. As I've pointed out before, most analysts figure that the auto bailouts saved over a million jobs. I haven't found any credible source that says the only jobs saved would be the direct jobs held by GM and Chrysler employees, as you claim. As I've said before, I concede that my guesstimate of over 2 million jobs is higher than estimates that only consider direct job losses and losses from related industries. My view is that the liquidation of GM and Chrysler during the depths of the Great Recession would have had a huge ripple effect on the stock markets and the economy as a whole.

Regarding 23 months of job growth (I believe it's now 24, actually), what I suggested was that the stimulus contributed to that success. I never claimed it was solely responsible for it, or, as you previously claimed, that that job growth started the second the stimulus bill was signed into law. I think most economists would agree that the stimulus has contributed to past and present job growth.

And I'm happy to discuss any of it, but don't distort what I've said. Stop lying.

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