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Romney 48, Obama 42; Santorum 46, Obama 45.

cpwill said:
among likely voters. voters, after all, being the ones who count. still in the middle of the (R) primary, no less, with the conservatives busy beating up on each other.
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Yea, I'm sure Obama's absolutely terrified, lol.
 
cpwill said:
among likely voters. voters, after all, being the ones who count. still in the middle of the (R) primary, no less, with the conservatives busy beating up on each other.
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I don't Romney winning see how he is a liberal and the republican John Kerry for being a flip flopper. I do not see Gingrich winning seeing how he is the embodiment of scumbag politicians. Santorum is painted as a big bible thumping holy roller by the liberal media,so I do not see him winning unless Obama does something extremely ****ed up.
 
I wouldn't get excited over Santorum's one point lead. That's well within most polls' margin of error, and he hasn't had to actually go up against Obama yet.

Romney's six point lead shows why he's a better candidate for the GOP. Santorum puts many independent and moderate voters back in the Obama camp.
 
rocket88 said:
I wouldn't get excited over Santorum's one point lead. That's well within most polls' margin of error, and he hasn't had to actually go up against Obama yet.

Romney's six point lead shows why he's a better candidate for the GOP. Santorum puts many independent and moderate voters back in the Obama camp.
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That is not true!
 
Romney just has to many flaw's to go head-to-head with Obama this fall.

#1 Obamacare? Wont work, Obama will thank Mitt for the support in implementing the same policies as governor.

#2 Gas Prices? Good luck convincing the American people you will be able to lower them, the average American knows the president has absolutely nothing to do with influencing gas prices...Republicans support free-market which is why gas prices are high, is mitt willing to go against one of his fake core beliefs? The only reason Obama is slipping right now in the polls is out of voter frustration, in the fall they will see gas prices gradually come down as Obama opens up our oil reserves, its an election year...gas prices will NOT be high come election time, I guarantee it.

#3 Economy? Good luck, the economy is continuing to improve. As long as it does and the Obama administration keeps adding jobs, the GOP has no shot at winning this election. Their entire campaign relies on this factor.

#4 Women support? Good luck, Obama is demolishing Romney in women support.

#5 Independents? Good luck, Obama is showing he can easily beat Mitt Romney in Independent support

#6 Latino Support? Good luck, Obama is beating romney in a 6-1 favor-ability among registered latino voters...who knows how many will register in the near future as well?

#7 Electoral College Swing States? Obama is beating romney convincingly in Ohio and leading in virtually every swing state poll. This polling is all that matters. National popular vote polls mean nothing, its all about the swing states.

#8 Money? While Mitt Romney has good strength in Super Pac's, Obama is a fund-raising machine, expecting to gross 1 billion in donations by election night. Good Luck selling your message Mitt when you can barely sell it to a financially flawed Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich. Mitt Romney will have a very hard time countering 1 billion dollars in negative advertisement, he has yet to be tested by a candidate with just as much, if not more financial means as he has.

What are the odds of Obama winning? I say 79%.
 
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SypherAL said:
Romney just has to many flaw's to go head-to-head with Obama this fall.

#1 Obamacare? Wont work, Obama will thank Mitt for the support in implementing the same policies as governor.

#2 Gas Prices? Good luck convincing the American people you will be able to lower them, the average American knows the president has absolutely nothing to do with influencing gas prices...Republicans support free-market which is why gas prices are high, is mitt willing to go against one of his fake core beliefs? The only reason Obama is slipping right now in the polls is out of voter frustration, in the fall they will see gas prices gradually come down as Obama opens up our oil reserves, its an election year...gas prices will NOT be high come election time, I guarantee it.

#3 Economy? Good luck, the economy is continuing to improve. As long as it does and the Obama administration keeps adding jobs, the GOP has no shot at winning this election. Their entire campaign relies on this factor.

#4 Women support? Good luck, Obama is demolishing Romney in women support.

#5 Independents? Good luck, Obama is showing he can easily beat Mitt Romney in Independent support

#6 Latino Support? Good luck, Obama is beating romney in a 6-1 favor-ability among registered latino voters...who knows how many will register in the near future as well?

#7 Electoral College Swing States? Obama is beating romney convincingly in Ohio and leading in virtually every swing state poll. This polling is all that matters. National popular vote polls mean nothing, its all about the swing states.

#8 Money? While Mitt Romney has good strength in Super Pac's, Obama is a fund-raising machine, expecting to gross 1 billion in donations by election night. Good Luck selling your message Mitt when you can barely sell it to a financially flawed Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich. Mitt Romney will have a very hard time countering 1 billion dollars in negative advertisement, he has yet to be tested by a candidate with just as much, if not more financial means as he has.

What are the odds of Obama winning? I say 79%.
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The only chance that Mittens have is to select Rubio as his VP. I heard he likes grits to :D.
 
SypherAL said:
Romney just has to many flaw's to go head-to-head with Obama this fall.

#1 Obamacare? Wont work, Obama will thank Mitt for the support in implementing the same policies as governor.
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Certainly true.

#2 Gas Prices? Good luck convincing the American people you will be able to lower them, the average American knows the president has absolutely nothing to do with influencing gas prices...Republicans support free-market which is why gas prices are high, is mitt willing to go against one of his fake core beliefs?
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The president has a lot to do with it! And every "average" american I know dislikes the president because of the prices of not only gas prices, but also food prices are sky rocketing.

The only reason Obama is slipping right now in the polls is out of voter frustration, in the fall they will see gas prices gradually come down as Obama opens up our oil reserves, its an election year...gas prices will NOT be high come election time, I guarantee it.
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You guarantee it? I'll love to see what you'll say when it is at around $8 in November. Or Obama will just pull a Carter and put a limit on the gas prices. Then there would be gas shortages.

#3 Economy? Good luck, the economy is continuing to improve. As long as it does and the Obama administration keeps adding jobs, the GOP has no shot at winning this election. Their entire campaign relies on this factor.
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Economy? With 16 trillion dollar dept, and with a declining labor force, the economy is close to a total crash.

#4 Women support? Good luck, Obama is demolishing Romney in women support.
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Has election day come yet? Where are you getting the info? Why would he have so much support?

#5 Independents? Good luck, Obama is showing he can easily beat Mitt Romney in Independent support
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57% disapproval with independents isn't good for BO.

#6 Latino Support? Good luck, Obama is beating romney in a 6-1 favor-ability among registered latino voters...who knows how many will register in the near future as well?
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Si! SEIU will get all the un-docs to vote for the messiah!

#7 Electoral College Swing States? Obama is beating romney convincingly in Ohio and leading in virtually every swing state poll. This polling is all that matters. National popular vote polls mean nothing, its all about the swing states.
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ATM, polls like that don't matter that much.

#8 Money? While Mitt Romney has good strength in Super Pac's, Obama is a fund-raising machine, expecting to gross 1 billion in donations by election night. Good Luck selling your message Mitt when you can barely sell it to a financially flawed Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich. Mitt Romney will have a very hard time countering 1 billion dollars in negative advertisement, he has yet to be tested by a candidate with just as much, if not more financial means as he has.

What are the odds of Obama winning? I say 79%.
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I would say the odds are 49% for Obama. Unless something really really bad happens. Then it would 18%.
 
General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Polls: RCP Average

Date: 2/19 - 3/11

Obama (D): 48.0%

Romney (R): 45.8%

Spread: Obama +2.2

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
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The OP is relying on only 1 poll, Rasmussen Tracking, as his source

If you take the average of the latest results from the 5 major polls (Rasmussen Tracking, ABC News/Wash Post, NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl, Politico/GWU/Battleground, USA Today/Gallup), the results are significantly different!

Its Obama, not Romney, who leads by +2.2 points.
 
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'Ya know, I am looking for a poll in which a choice of "None of the Above" is included. IMHO, that choice is a winner. :mrgreen:
 
Im sure this figures into the demographics but with Rubio on the ticket, I read that the Obama advantage with Hispanics drops to 2 to 1 rather than 6 to 1.
 
Amigo said:
Certainly true.



The president has a lot to do with it! And every "average" american I know dislikes the president because of the prices of not only gas prices, but also food prices are sky rocketing.



You guarantee it? I'll love to see what you'll say when it is at around $8 in November. Or Obama will just pull a Carter and put a limit on the gas prices. Then there would be gas shortages.



Economy? With 16 trillion dollar dept, and with a declining labor force, the economy is close to a total crash.



Has election day come yet? Where are you getting the info? Why would he have so much support?



57% disapproval with independents isn't good for BO.



Si! SEIU will get all the un-docs to vote for the messiah!



ATM, polls like that don't matter that much.



I would say the odds are 49% for Obama. Unless something really really bad happens. Then it would 18%.
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The President has NOTHING to do with Gas Prices, once again, The President has NOTHING to do with Gas Prices, ask ANY legitimate economist. Wait... i'm going to read your mind.... they keystone pipeline would fix this!? right!? wrong.... just another access point for southern oil gods to export oil out of the United States which will be sold right back to us at a higher price...the Republican party does not serve you brother, they serve their employers, the rich. I find it HILARIOUS you think gas prices will hit $8.00/gallon, i'm willing to bet they are right around 3.33 come election time. Of course everyone you ask is unhappy with Obama...you live in South Carolina bro....is that not the reddest state in America?
 
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SypherAL said:
The President has NOTHING to do with Gas Prices, once again, The President has NOTHING to do with Gas Prices, ask ANY legitimate economist. Wait... i'm going to read your mind.... they keystone pipeline would fix this!? right!? wrong.... just another access point for southern oil gods to export oil out of the United States which will be sold right back to us at a higher price...the Republican party does not serve you brother, they serve their employers, the rich. I find it HILARIOUS you think gas prices will hit $8.00/gallon, i'm willing to bet they are right around 3.33 come election time. Of course everyone you ask is unhappy with Obama...you live in South Carolina bro....is that not the reddest state in America?
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oh I see the President has nothing to do with gas prices apparently when the Democrats are in office but that totally changes when the Republicans are in office.

Another free pass by the media.
 
SypherAL said:
The President has NOTHING to do with Gas Prices, once again, The President has NOTHING to do with Gas Prices, ask ANY legitimate economist. Wait... i'm going to read your mind.... they keystone pipeline would fix this!? right!? wrong.... just another access point for southern oil gods to export oil out of the United States which will be sold right back to us at a higher price...the Republican party does not serve you brother, they serve their employers, the rich. I find it HILARIOUS you think gas prices will hit $8.00/gallon, i'm willing to bet they are right around 3.33 come election time. Of course everyone you ask is unhappy with Obama...you live in South Carolina bro....is that not the reddest state in America?
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For starters its $3.90 right now and is expected to keep going up.

The President's energy policy absolutely has something to do with the price of gas. Delayed exploration and drilling in the gulf, no continental shelf exploration, blocking the use of ANWR as a viable oil production source, blocking keystone, EPA regs that are causing coal plants to close---Obama is going for energy policies that subsidize his green agenda on the back of proven energy sources that he deems are "polluters". The problem is the liberal agenda doesnt work when times are tough. People arent as willing to let one more reg go when it closes down jobs and makes everything cost more.

Yet Obama's cures are more regs and more taxes on oil and coal. Energy policy affects every other industry in the US, and every price in the US.
 
SypherAL said:
The President has NOTHING to do with Gas Prices, once again, The President has NOTHING to do with Gas Prices, ask ANY legitimate economist.
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He does! Can you give me proof me doesn't? I remember the Bush years, and when the gas hit $2. The dems said that it was Bush, Bush, Bush, and Bush! People listened to the media, and told everybody else, Bush's fault! The gas prices were low then, now they are high.

Wait... i'm going to read your mind.... they keystone pipeline would fix this!? right!? wrong.... just another access point for southern oil gods to export oil out of the United States which will be sold right back to us at a higher price
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You need to learn how to read minds, because Keystone wasn't even on my mind.

...the Republican party does not serve you brother, they serve their employers, the rich.
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LOL, you're quite funny there!


I find it HILARIOUS you think gas prices will hit $8.00/gallon,
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Go ahead, laugh it off. How about $6? That is about the least I would expect.

I'm willing to bet they are right around 3.33 come election time.
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Who are they? And what would cause the prices to go down to $3.33?

Of course everyone you ask is unhappy with Obama
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No, my neighbour supports Obama, because "he's black".

..you live in South Carolina bro
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I am not your brother man! Yes, I do live in SC.


is that not the reddest state in America?
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Not close, it is quite blue where I live.
 
Medleyrelay said:
oh I see the President has nothing to do with gas prices apparently when the Democrats are in office but that totally changes when the Republicans are in office.

Another free pass by the media.
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Oh I see, the President has everything to do with gas prices apparently when the Democrats are in office, but that totally changes when the Republicans are in office.

Another free pass by conservatives.
 
TheNextEra said:
Oh I see, the President has everything to do with gas prices apparently when the Democrats are in office, but that totally changes when the Republicans are in office.

Another free pass by conservatives.
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What you're talking about?
 
TheNextEra said:
Oh I see, the President has everything to do with gas prices apparently when the Democrats are in office, but that totally changes when the Republicans are in office.

Another free pass by conservatives.
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So either the criticism was valid with Bush and is valid now with Obama, or it wasn't valid with Bush and it's not valid now with Obama. I agree with you though, the selective exclusions don't work and shouldn't be accepted by either liberals or conservatives.
 
Ockham said:
So either the criticism was valid with Bush and is valid now with Obama, or it wasn't valid with Bush and it's not valid now with Obama. I agree with you though, the selective exclusions don't work and shouldn't be accepted by either liberals or conservatives.
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That was the point I was trying to make. Both sides accuse the other side of wrongdoing while the other side is in power, and then excuse their side of doing it when their side is in power.
 
Ockham said:
So either the criticism was valid with Bush and is valid now with Obama, or it wasn't valid with Bush and it's not valid now with Obama. I agree with you though, the selective exclusions don't work and shouldn't be accepted by either liberals or conservatives.
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I think that's a little bit too tidy. Generally Dems criticized Bush's energy policy because it was too focused on fossil fuels. The argument is that the only real way to reduce energy prices is to reduce our dependence on oil. And of course there's a separate environmental issue. Bush was also accused of driving up prices by fostering instability in the ME, specifically via the Iraq invasion and a belligerant stance towards Iran. I don't think that may Democrats were suggesting that Bush could reduce short-term gas prices except, possibly, by cooling the rhetoric towards Iran.
 
No matter how you cut it this is excellent news for the GOP that any candidate would beat Hussein Obama.......
 
Navy Pride said:
No matter how you cut it this is excellent news for the GOP that any candidate would beat Hussein Obama.......
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Too bad nobody by that name is running.
 
Amigo said:
Certainly true.

The president has a lot to do with it! And every "average" american I know dislikes the president because of the prices of not only gas prices, but also food prices are sky rocketing.
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Please explain... especially since you are suggesting something that is contrary to conventional wisdom...
 
upsideguy said:
Please explain... especially since you are suggesting something that is contrary to conventional wisdom...
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Everything I do is against that! Conventional wisdom is what tells us that "butter is bad for us", or that "we must ban guns in order to stop gun crimes".
 
Navy Pride said:
No matter how you cut it this is excellent news for the GOP that any candidate would beat Hussein Obama.......
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I'm sorry to rain on Navy Pride's parade, but I would like to direct his attention back to post #33.

The OP has based this whole thread on just 1 poll - Rasmussen

If you take the average of the latest results from all 5 major polls, Obama is ahead of Romney by +2.2 points.
- Rasmussen Tracking,
- ABC News/Wash Post,
- NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl,
- Politico/GWU/Battleground,
- USA Today/Gallup

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-1171.html
 
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Who Determines the Price of Oil?

Today, a third party has moved to the table-the New York Mercantile Exchange, a similar operates in London and a new one in Dubai. There, boisterous traders buy and sell futures contracts on the delivery of oil .....

These oil gamblers in New York and London try to justify their frenetic daily bidding by saying that these futures markets provide liquidity, and a clear price for oil. Alright, but who benefits when, how and where?

..... "It’s a big gambling hall," The Washington Post quotes Fadel Gheit, an oil analyst at Oppenheimer. "This time it’s just speculation," Peter C. Fusaro, chairman of Global Change Associates, told the Post, adding, "There’s a large bet out there that prices will continue to trend higher. But it’s detached from fundamentals because there’s no shortage of oil."

http://www.counterpunch.org/2007/11/06/who-determines-the-price-of-oil/
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Contrary to popular belief, the US president does not set the price of oil - if he did, you can be sure we wouldn't be having such upward fluctauations so close to a presidential election.

The prices is set by oil traders at Mercantile Exchanges in New York, London and Dubai. In a perfect world one would assume that world prices are the result of market forces determining by the supply and demand of oil.

The author, however, suggects that world prices are increasingly detatched from economic fundamentals and fuelled by greed, speculation and an obligarchy of oil corporations.
 
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