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obama destroys frontrunners in swing states in new poll.

Again way too early, anything can happen from now until November. In politics even 2 weeks is a eternity, look at how the Republicans choose their canidates week after week. Same can be said with the general election. But still looks promising at this point for Obama and if the economy continues to grow he may have the election in the bag.
 
This election was over before it began. No GOP candidate is legitimate enough to win a general election. After reviewing recent polling trends i dont think this election will even be close now. Obama could win by a landslide as long as he goes after the latino vote. If Obama wins the latino vote and women vote, its game over. If Obama wins ohio and virgina and holds onto all the blue states, its over. The current election climate is almost impossible for the GOP to turn around and they know it. I'm not being liberal biased, im just living in reality.

Expect the GOP to focus its attention on congress and the senate. I predict the democrats will hold onto the senate by a couple seats and the GOP will maintain control of the house....but by a much smaller majority. If Obama wins the election and the GOP wins the house and senate things are going to get very VERY ugly. I'm talking 2-3 impeachment attempt uglies. Americans need to understand something.....America's government is as divided as ever right now. I truly believe the only way things will get done is with a republican or democratic majority in both the house and senate and presidency. You can blame the tea party for this, real republicans are capable of reaching across the aisle to reach compromise, the tea party is not.
 
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Ohio:
Obama 48% - Paul 38%. - 13% Undecided
Obama 50% - Romney 38% - 12% Undecided.
Obama 50% - Santorum 36% - 14% Undecided.
Obama 51% - Gingrich 36%. - 13% Undecided.

Key points:
Looking at independent voters, Paul — 45% — leads Obama — 37%. Obama leads his other potential Republican challengers among these voters.
 
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99percenter said:
New NBC/marist polls have obama destroying flipper and frothy.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Ohio: Romney vs. Obama
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Ohio: Santorum vs. Obama
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Virginia: Romney vs. Obama
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Virginia: Santorum vs. Obama
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Obama up on Romney 3.8% in Ohio and 4% in Virginia can hardly be called "destroying" them. Plus if you throw out the NBC/Marist poll that has Obama up by an absurd 17% margin in Virginia, the race is a toss up.
 
Fletch said:
Obama up on Romney 3.8% in Ohio and 4% in Virginia can hardly be called "destroying" them. Plus if you throw out the NBC/Marist poll that has Obama up by an absurd 17% margin in Virginia, the race is a toss up.
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I was talking specifically about the marist poll in which he is destroying them.
 
Fletch said:
Obama up on Romney 3.8% in Ohio and 4% in Virginia can hardly be called "destroying" them. Plus if you throw out the NBC/Marist poll that has Obama up by an absurd 17% margin in Virginia, the race is a toss up.
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This election is not a toss up.... it will be very hard for Obama to lose. It wont be a landslide, but it will be a convincing victory. You need to weigh the mathematics. Obama can lose nearly half of the swing states and still win. He could win Ohio and virginia and win no matter what, as long as he carried all his blue states. He could win Florida and north carolina, and still win no matter what, as long as he wins his blue states. Obama only has to realistically win either Ohio or Florida to make it very difficult for Romney to win. Obama will easily win california, michigan, wisconsin, washington, oregon, illinois, new mexico, and probably Colorado. As long as he wins the northeast and picks up Ohio or Virginia its game over.
 
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99%er, you take one poll and call it a lock for Obama. This is shining example of why you chose your handle. So you are a OWS person who backs Obama? This is counter-intuitive to say the least. You people claim to be against the big banks and yet you support the guy who has bailed them out and has been the largest recipient of their campaign donations. This blind devotion to R or D is precisely why we are in the shape we are in. Wake up man!
 
So, let's ignore all the other polls that has them closer and just focus on the one with the biggest win gap for my dude. Yay.
 
johnny_rebson said:
Don't be surprised if the RNC finds a way to make it a brokered convention.
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What difference does that make? It is not like they have anyone on the bench that is worth a da__. Moreover, such a move is nothing but a Hail Mary, as the party will have done a ton of damage to itself looking like the "Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight". It has to be a huge hit to leadership credibility to excessively promote six or seven candidates, waster everyone's time than then run someone completely different. How presidential is that?
 
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Don't be surprised if the RNC finds a way to make it a brokered convention.
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Then what, Sarah Palin, Chris Christie, Jeb Bush? All have claimed they're not running.
 
99percenter said:
I was talking specifically about the marist poll in which he is destroying them.
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Kind of silly to focus on the outlier isnt it? But if it makes you feel better...
 
Chris Christie could unite the Republican Party. I dont like the guys political views, but he has that demeanor like Obama had. He has the eye of the tiger. Obama needs to get that back or Clubber Lang is coming for the title.
 
SypherAL said:
This election was over before it began. No GOP candidate is legitimate enough to win a general election. After reviewing recent polling trends i dont think this election will even be close now. Obama could win by a landslide as long as he goes after the latino vote. If Obama wins the latino vote and women vote, its game over. If Obama wins ohio and virgina and holds onto all the blue states, its over. The current election climate is almost impossible for the GOP to turn around and they know it. I'm not being liberal biased, im just living in reality.

Expect the GOP to focus its attention on congress and the senate. I predict the democrats will hold onto the senate by a couple seats and the GOP will maintain control of the house....but by a much smaller majority. If Obama wins the election and the GOP wins the house and senate things are going to get very VERY ugly. I'm talking 2-3 impeachment attempt uglies. Americans need to understand something.....America's government is as divided as ever right now. I truly believe the only way things will get done is with a republican or democratic majority in both the house and senate and presidency. You can blame the tea party for this, real republicans are capable of reaching across the aisle to reach compromise, the tea party is not.
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I notice you never talk about democrats reaching across the aisle. ;)
 
Justice For All said:
Again way too early, anything can happen from now until November. In politics even 2 weeks is a eternity, look at how the Republicans choose their canidates week after week. Same can be said with the general election. But still looks promising at this point for Obama and if the economy continues to grow he may have the election in the bag.
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I agree, but it seems like every other week the GOP brand takes a serious hit... from within the party itself.

It's hard to imagine any woman voter who's had gynecological health issues, or a friend or a daunter with ovarian cancer/cervical cancer not being completely disgusted with the far-right social-con end of the GOP.
 
Bartlebee06 said:
99%er, you take one poll and call it a lock for Obama. This is shining example of why you chose your handle. So you are a OWS person who backs Obama? This is counter-intuitive to say the least. You people claim to be against the big banks and yet you support the guy who has bailed them out and has been the largest recipient of their campaign donations. This blind devotion to R or D is precisely why we are in the shape we are in. Wake up man!
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So many assumptions and misinformation i dont know where to start. Okay first of all i never called it for anyone. I just posted the results for one poll. If you read my OP that was my intent. It is the most recent poll BTW. I know a lot can change. Secondly obama didnt bail out the banks, bush did. He supported it like a handful of other senators and representatives, but that doesn't mean he bailed them out. And secondly where did i say i supported obama. I already early voted in the democratic primaries and i didnt vote for obama. I wrote in someone's name.
 
soccerboy22 said:
So, let's ignore all the other polls that has them closer and just focus on the one with the biggest win gap for my dude. Yay.
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Usually you look at the most recent polls to see where the candidate is.
 
hazlnut said:
I agree, but it seems like every other week the GOP brand takes a serious hit... from within the party itself.

It's hard to imagine any woman voter who's had gynecological health issues, or a friend or a daunter with ovarian cancer/cervical cancer not being completely disgusted with the far-right social-con end of the GOP.
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I think obama might have intentionally done that to create the contraception flap. The longer the GOP talks about god, guns and gays the more likely they are to loss.
 
99percenter said:
I think obama might have intentionally done that to create the contraception flap. The longer the GOP talks about god, guns and gays the more likely they are to loss.
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Remember it was the Catholic bishops that raised the issue to begin with. The policy had been in place since the bill based in 09.

Obama's compromise was reasonable and pragmatic. The GOP likes to paint Obama as anti-religion, big Gov invading your religious freedoms.
 
hazlnut said:
Remember it was the Catholic bishops that raised the issue to begin with. The policy had been in place since the bill based in 09.

Obama's compromise was reasonable and pragmatic. The GOP likes to paint Obama as anti-religion, big Gov invading your religious freedoms.
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Whatever the reason maybe it will help obama because the american people are on his side on those issues. I don't think the GOP can retake the white house with culture wars. They can't talk about foreign policy because obama killed obl and is more hawkish than them. They can't talk about the economy because its improving albeit slowly.
 
99percenter said:
Whatever the reason maybe it will help obama because the american people are on his side on those issues. I don't think the GOP can retake the white house with culture wars. They can't talk about foreign policy because obama killed obl and is more hawkish than them. They can't talk about the economy because its improving albeit slowly.
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if i recall, the motto of the campaigning clinton was 'it's the economy, stupid!'
and that is even more true today
if the economy keeps growing, then Obama will be re-elected even if there is video of his crack induced gay sexcapades

however, let's look at how gas prices are being manipulated. bibi and the israeli government would love nothing more than seeing someone other than Obama prevail in november. and this 'loose talk of war' coming out of tel aviv is what is causing the speculators to bid the price of oil (thus gas) ever higher
$5 a gallon gasoline is sure to throw sand in our nation's economic engine
and if israel ignites a conflict with iran, then a choice will have to be made by the white house; join in or sit it out. either choice will cost Obama significant votes
add to that the very real prospect that the GOP will select someone in a brokered convention, someone who will be able to both rally the base to come out and vote while being attractive enough to also win over a portion of the independent voters ... that middle unaffiliated swing vote would decide the election
while i would bet on an Obama re-election (i have already made the offer in this place) i would not bet the ranch
 
American said:
I notice you never talk about democrats reaching across the aisle. ;)
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I know I know, your right. We could also do some reaching. I knew I would get blasted for leaving that out. :cool:
 
However, if there's one thing I have learned with American politics its this... American's have a very bad case of short term memory. A major political issue today will be a major thing of the past tomorrow. It's all about steering the direction of the debate. This is why the incumbent president has such an advantage, as commander n' chief you are much more capable of setting the tone of the campaign. The final state of the union speech usually will set the tone of the election, on both sides of the aisle. Things can change in a hurry...but I don't see the GOP being able to pull this election off. In 2016 they have the upper hand, plenty of big names who will give it a run then. Democrats will be low on big sluggers.
 
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