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Super Tuesday, 06 Mar 2012

Redress

Redress

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Alaska: 27 delegates, Caucus
Georgia: 76 delegates, Primary
Idaho: 32 delegates, Caucus
Mass: 41 delegates, Primary
N. Dakota: 28 delegates, Primary
Ohio: 66 delegates, Primary
Oklahoma: 43 delegates, Primary
Tenn: 58 delegates, Primary
Vermont: 17 delegates, Primary
Virginia: 49 delegates, Primary

437 total delegates in play.
 
Place your bets now.
 
Which ones are a for sure for Romney?
 
Josie said:
Which ones are a for sure for Romney?
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Definitely Virginia and Mass. Probably Idaho too with the huge Mormon population. I could easily see him winning North Dakota, Alaska, and Vermont. I don't see him wining Oklahoma, Ohio, Tennessee, or Georgia.
 
Romney has a good chance of winning Alaska, Massachusetts, North Dakota, Idaho, Vermont and Virginia. Santorum could likely win Ohio, Oklahoma, and Tennessee. Georgia could go to Newt.
 
Anagram said:
Definitely Virginia and Mass. Probably Idaho too with the huge Mormon population. I could easily see him winning North Dakota, Alaska, and Vermont. I don't see him wining Oklahoma, Ohio, Tennessee, or Georgia.
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That's very different from your predictions a few days ago. I'm curious why the change? Do you think that Michigan/Az had much effect?
 
disneydude said:
That's very different from your predictions a few days ago. I'm curious why the change? Do you think that Michigan/Az had much effect?
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Yes. Santorum's big strength was the enthusiasm gap that helped him win caucus states and meaningless primaries. After his momentum being stunted on Tuesday, I don't think he'll have the enthusiasm to win the North Dakota and Alaska caucuses which would be Romney territory otherwise. Of course, things can easily change over the week, and if Santorum picks up any momentum, possibly with the Washington caucuses, I think he'll be in better position to win the northern caucuses.
 
Gingrich may have one of his 9 lives left, but barring a complete and unexpected turn of events, ST knocks him out, or at least makes him so much of a non entity in the race he is purely just a sound bite side show. Paul stays in because he has only ever been a protest vote anyway. The real question is what can Santorum do to still be formidable after ST. He is going to have to win enough to be viable in terms of delegate numbers. A win in Michigan would have given him enough mo to really be strong in ST. Still, winning that would have been a HUGE upset given what Romney had in Michigan. Just doing well hopefully will carry him into ST with some strength to be competitive and to keep going. BTW.... Its not so much Santorum I like or want, its just how much the GOP has put into Romney despite his lack of popularity and lack of any real conservatism. The GOP primary for me is just an anti GOP establishment vote as far as I am concerned.
 
00timh said:
The real question is what can Santorum do to still be formidable after ST. He is going to have to win enough to be viable in terms of delegate numbers.
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No.

- Missing on Ballots / Minimal delegates
- Paul supporters are likely to represent as delegates in non-binding caucuses at the precinct level. So even in states Santo or Romney won the straw poll, they aren't probably represented properly. (Basically stuffing the box.) It's stacked against Santorum of ever winning.
 
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Eric Cantor hes endorsed Romney. It feels like this might be starting to wind down. Santorum needs a good showing Tuesday to continue to be a viable candidate.
 
Early prediction - I'm betting that Romney wins the Virginia primary tomorrow night!!! :cool:
 
Catawba said:
Early prediction - I'm betting that Romney wins the Virginia primary tomorrow night!!! :cool:
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Can I count for your vote for Ron Paul? :3 Please
 
jasonxe said:
Can I count for your vote for Ron Paul? :3 Please
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I will give him this Jason, I think he is the most sincere of the candidates, and I can see why you like that in him. I wished I liked the other Paul policy positions as well as I like his defense position, but I'm afraid I don't. Sorry my friend, nothing personal against you at all.

I actually had been planning on voting for Ron Paul in the primary, just to screw with the VA GOP. However, since I would have to forfeit my vote for my State Senator pick in the Democrat primary if I voted in the GOP primary, I decided it wasn't worth it since Romney is sure to win Virginia anyway.
 
Catawba said:
I will give him this Jason, I think he is the most sincere of the candidates, and I can see why you like that in him. I wished I liked the other Paul policy positions as well as I like his defense position, but I'm afraid I don't. Sorry my friend, nothing personal against you at all.

I actually had been planning on voting for Ron Paul in the primary, just to screw with the VA GOP. However, since I would have to forfeit my vote for my State Senator pick in the Democrat primary if I voted in the GOP primary, I decided it wasn't worth it since Romney is sure to win Virginia anyway.
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Worth a try, need all the help we can get. If you know anyone who is willing then please encourage them to vote for Paul tomorrow.
 
If Senator Paul had run as an independent, he might have had more success! The republican brand has hurt him.
 
my guess is that Romney will likely secure the nomination soon. it seems at least somewhat likely that he'll edge out Santorum in Ohio. if he doesn't, i think he's still the likely nominee, but the race will drag on longer.

i don't really see a path forward for Gingrich, and judging by his choice of words and demeanor in recent days, neither does he. he'll probably be the first of the remaining to drop out.

Santorum will keep going, as will Paul. but Ohio seems to be the state to watch. if it doesn't go not-Romney, the race will become largely ceremonial.
 
Newt takes Georgia, standard.
 
Cast my vote in a meaningless race just like 2004.

Once in my lifetime I want a primary to reach Virginia with a candidate I truly want to get behind both based on principled and pragmatic reasons
 
Zyphlin said:
Cast my vote in a meaningless race just like 2004.

Once in my lifetime I want a primary to reach Virginia with a candidate I truly want to get behind both based on principled and pragmatic reasons
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Would your vote have changed if Santorum and Gingrich were on the ballot?
 
AdamT said:
Would your vote have changed if Santorum and Gingrich were on the ballot?
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Santorum? No.

Gingrich? Possibly.

If Paul manages 40% in Virginia I'll be very surprised and happy. It'd be rather telling about Romney if that were to happen in a one on one race like that.

Ha! Just saw on CNN that my little county in VA that I'm from has gone for Paul thus far.
 
Zyphlin said:
Cast my vote in a meaningless race just like 2004.

Once in my lifetime I want a primary to reach Virginia with a candidate I truly want to get behind both based on principled and pragmatic reasons
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But did you vote Hank for Senate? Hank For Senate

Hank, the only vote that matters!
 
Georgia to Gingrich:

Gingrich: 45
Santorum: 25
Romney 23

Vermont to Romney:

Romney 36
Santorum 27

Virginia to Romney, running unopposed for all intents.

No other returns yet.
 
Redress said:
Georgia to Gingrich:

Gingrich: 45
Santorum: 25
Romney 23

Vermont to Romney:

Romney 36
Santorum 27

Virginia to Romney, running unopposed for all intents.

No other returns yet.
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Ridiculous to not give Paul credit for Virginia. I think the fact that he has a rather strong showing so far in Virginia shows that he is electable. If he wasn't, then how come it hasn't been a complete blow out? You get a larger crowd of young voters out there and he wins Virginia. It's just disrespectful to Ron Paul to not include him in your post.
 
Chaddelamancha said:
Ridiculous to not give Paul credit for Virginia. I think the fact that he has a rather strong showing so far in Virginia shows that he is electable. If he wasn't, then how come it hasn't been a complete blow out? You get a larger crowd of young voters out there and he wins Virginia. It's just disrespectful to Ron Paul to not include him in your post.
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Paul is not a serious candidate for president. Paul has yet to win a single state and is dead last in delegates, having about 1/9th the delegates of Romney.
 
MA : Romney

CNN says OK and TN exit polls trended Santorum.
 
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