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Women Prefer Santorum to Romney by 10 Points

Most American's dont know what he stands for. The only thing they hear is that he is beating Romney or is a frontrunner.. this alone gains a lot of "if others like him, and I dont know squat, then I guess I will follow the majority" kind of vote.

Another poll has shown that backing of Santorum takes a nose dive when people actually find out about his political views.
 
cpwill said:
the only thing I can think is that they are breaking it that way due to Romney typically carrying the affluent.
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I can see that, but Gallup should have explained the methodolgy if that is the case.

With the people in this thread discussing satan I looked around a bit for recent Santorum quotes and I had not heard about this the other day, it has been interpreted as Santorum comparing Obama to Hitler and for some people, that is as bad as satan.

“Your country needs you. It’s not as clear a challenge. Obviously, World War II was pretty obvious. At some point, they knew. But remember, the Greatest Generation, for a year and a half, sat on the sidelines while Europe was under darkness, where our closest ally, Britain, was being bombed and leveled, while Japan was spreading its cancer all throughout Southeast Asia. America sat from 1940, when France fell, to December of ’41, and did almost nothing.

“Why? Because we’re a hopeful people. We think, ‘Well, you know, he’ll get better. You know, he’s a nice guy."
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cpwill said:
Ah. so no, you're don't actually have any kind of point. what a shocker.

are you an evil clown trying to make liberals look bad? if so, you picked a bad thread and are thus doing a poor job - whatever else their faults (and we are all only human), both redress and your star could run circles around the character you've presented without even warming up or exerting themselves.
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nah....just joking cpwill .....;)
 
cpwill said:
yes. but i'm not exactly sure how precisely that detracts from the point. are you arguing that this is a swing solely among pro-life women?
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I don't know if all Republican/Republican Leaning women are pro-life, but it is a distinction worth noting. The poll does not include independents nor Democrat/liberal women, so it's not all that surprising to me.
 
hey Santorum.... bye bye Satan!

Satan is gone children :lamo -----;)

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Gina said:
I don't know if all Republican/Republican Leaning women are pro-life, but it is a distinction worth noting. The poll does not include independents nor Democrat/liberal women, so it's not all that surprising to me.
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huh.

He's less UNpopular with Democrat and Independent Women than either Romney or Gingrich

which isn't too terribly surprising on Gingrich's part. though same article goes on to point out:

...Or maybe they're just not as interested in that stuff right now: The Washington Post, which conducted the polls, theorizes that women are more interested in Santorum's "ability to relate to the daily struggles of the middle class," than his views on reproductive rights — and in a majority of households, women are making the financial decisions these days. Santorum doesn't just talk about family planning; he talks about the practice and daily problems of actually having a family, and perhaps that's more important for Republican voters right now...
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or that.
 
cpwill said:
huh.

He's less UNpopular with Democrat and Independent Women than either Romney or Gingrich

which isn't too terribly surprising on Gingrich's part. though same article goes on to point out:



or that.
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The link to the Gallup poll in your OP is titled: All Republican/Republican Leaning RVs (Weekly Trend)

From your link in this post:
As for Republican women, the new poll numbers suggest that some are attracted to the zeal of Santorum's pro-life platform, even with its inclusion of anti-contraception rhetoric, and that more pro-life women see those things as part of the consistent ethic of life than many analysts and consultants might have suspected. It makes a certain kind of sense that these women aren't moderates on those issues. Women who are both committed Republicans and committed pro-lifers are already in the minority among their gender; feeling like an oppressed minority can help build fervor and heighten identification with that group and those views.
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That paragraph immediately precedes the quote you just included, so in context it would seem that the writer is referencing Republican women?

Someone has to be less unpopular when ranking poll results. In this case it's Santorum so I don't read too much into that.
 
I find it interesting that he scores higher among Democrat women than Romney. I'm not terribly surprised with regards to Gingrich.

It's probably true that the swing for Republican women in Santorum's favor is over-representative of pro-life women. but that by itself doesn't explain the margin that Santorum is holding. I'm not sure that's going to fully account for the swing, either - Romney has been running this whole time as a Pro-Life Candidate; indeed, with the possible exception of Huntsman and Cain every other day, I'm pretty sure every member of the field is.
 
Here in Michigan, the EPIC-MIRA poll of Thursday had different figures.
Romney was preferred by 37% of women, while Santorum had 34%. Santorum led in the entire poll by 3 points.

Since then there has been another poll taken after the Arizona debate and Romney now leads the poll.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ion/michigan/2012_michigan_republican_primary

I suspect his lead with both genders has only increased based on that turnaround.
 
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yeah, I saw that Rasmussen as well - Mitt has turned that state around, it seems.
 
cpwill said:
yeah, I saw that Rasmussen as well - Mitt has turned that state around, it seems.
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A four or five to one spending advantage has helped him just as it did in Florida. Then the formal GOP party structure here is supporting Romney as well. Santorum may benefit from some Democratic mischief crossing over since its an open primary state - but I do not think that will be enough for Santorum to win.
 
huh. is it a rubble-bouncing negative bit, like v Gingrich in Fla?
 
Keep in mind that the female Evangelical base is very large even though it's the male leaders you usually see.
 
cpwill said:
Now this is interesting, given the "narrative" that the media is currently trying to assign to Santorum.

now that is an interesting swing.
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See this is what happens when you give them the vote.....
 
"women" my ass

"some of some of female conservatives" you mean.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
"women" my ass

"some of some of female conservatives" you mean.
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Face it Ms. Spiker. 10% of Ms. Spiker likes Santorum more than Romney and you can't stop it. It's scientifically proven. I'd suggest amputation of that 10% but you'd still be terminally infected with the Romney.
 
Chicks dig sweater-vests.
 
Both candidates have not shown they are much about women. In fact it's probably the opposite.

Anyone who votes on feminist issues as being the most important, should not vote GOP at all.
 
cpwill said:
what do you think is behind the swing then? why women by this much when the story is supposed to be how much Santorum Scares Women?
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Maybe because it is not women in general but purely republican leaning women whom were asked this question and only under republican leaning women do we know for sure that he is better liked than Romney, under democratic and independent women those figures might be very different (and most likely are IMHO).
 
I have no idea why women would like Santorum over Romney. My wife, for example, does not like Santorum because of his extreme views on abortion; he thinks abortion should be illegal for ALL circumstances...for example: rape or incest. That is just way too extreme in my opinion. Although I don't vote based on one issue, especially that one.
 
Porchev said:
I have no idea why women would like Santorum over Romney. My wife, for example, does not like Santorum because of his extreme views on abortion; he thinks abortion should be illegal for ALL circumstances...for example: rape or incest. That is just way too extreme in my opinion. Although I don't vote based on one issue, especially that one.
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Let's be honest, how many women and mothers of women/girls will say to their daughter:

You should make the best of a bad situation now that you have been raped/been the victim of incest because some old sex-less person somewhere in Italy and his sex-less cronies and his allies here in the US headed up by the likes of Rick Santorum believe that life begins when your innocent little egg got invaded by the sperm of your rapist/uncle/brother/daddy (in case of incest) and that you just have to live with it because of their moral code.

So no my dear, no morning after pill, no medical abortion in the first 49 days or abortion itself because they value the clump of cells in your body more highly that your right to decide for yourself wether or not you want to have the baby of your rapist or not. Because it may scar you for life and possibly condemn another kid to have to deal with adoption/childrens homes etc. because Pope Benidict, his papal mafia clan and Santorum feel that their moral rights outweigh everybody elses rights.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
"women" my ass

"some of some of female conservatives" you mean.
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ah, i forgot. women who make the choice to be pro-life aren't really women any more. :roll:
 
Peter King said:
Maybe because it is not women in general but purely republican leaning women whom were asked this question and only under republican leaning women do we know for sure that he is better liked than Romney, under democratic and independent women those figures might be very different (and most likely are IMHO).
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as I mentioned earlier, Santorum actually has a lower unfavorability rating with Democrat and Independent women than Romney as well.
 
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