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NewsMax Reports Fox Polls: Obama 8% victory margin on Santorum & Romney

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Although Republicans have reasons to be concerned, it is still very early in the process.

Perhaps, but it's close enough that a brokered convention is being considered. The GOP elite must be soiling their pants over the inability to produce a strong candidate that can gather support. This by all measures is Obama's election to lose and the GOP right now based on intrade reports looks like they're blowing their chance.

Seriously, when a right wing partisan hackjob website like Newsmax is a posting a Fox poll showing Obama handily winning this election, that cannot be good for the GOP.
 
Perhaps, but it's close enough that a brokered convention is being considered. The GOP elite must be soiling their pants over the inability to produce a strong candidate that can gather support. This by all measures is Obama's election to lose and the GOP right now based on intrade reports looks like they're blowing their chance.

Seriously, when a right wing partisan hackjob website like Newsmax is a posting a Fox poll showing Obama handily winning this election, that cannot be good for the GOP.

In my opinion, the GOP elite (as you rightly call them) created this problem. My personal opinion from observing the fray is that the right-wing electorate wants a strong conservative candidate.

They got behind Herman Cain, until women started to come out of the woodwork with harassment claims.

They got behind Newt Gingrich, until every Establishment Republican soiled him so bad that the public became convinced he was unelectable.

They got behind Rick Santorum, and now the Establishment is circulating memos trying to find a way to halt his momentum.

The Republican voter wants "anybody but Romeny," but the Establishment is forcing Romney down our throats.

Thus, we have been unable to unite behind a candidate, and have instead been tearing at each other's throats throughout this process in a way that is unprecedented.
 
Fox News Poll: Obama Leads Republican Candidates in Swing States

Is this a real bad sign when a site like Newsmax is report a Fox poll showing Obama handily winning the election?

No wonder why Limbaugh is reporting that the GOP Establishment is going into panic mode over a possible Santorum nomination,.

If I am to believe the poll by AP-GfK it looks like all the candidates from the Republican side have no chance to win against Obama. Romney is not doing much better.

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Funny, when listening to Sean Hannity yesterday you'd think the numbers would be much different. Hannity was going on and on AND ON about how hideous Obama's approval ratings were and that no other sitting president in history has had worse numbers. He was making it sound like a SLAM DUNK for any Republican candidate to just walk into the White House almost unopposed.

I was literally laughing out loud at what I was hearing.
 
Although Republicans have reasons to be concerned, it is still very early in the process.


It is early, but you can't turn a frog into a prince, and frogs you got. Too bad you guys didn't give huntsman a longer look.
 
In my opinion, the GOP elite (as you rightly call them) created this problem. My personal opinion from observing the fray is that the right-wing electorate wants a strong conservative candidate.

They got behind Herman Cain, until women started to come out of the woodwork with harassment claims.

They got behind Newt Gingrich, until every Establishment Republican soiled him so bad that the public became convinced he was unelectable.

They got behind Rick Santorum, and now the Establishment is circulating memos trying to find a way to halt his momentum.

The Republican voter wants "anybody but Romeny," but the Establishment is forcing Romney down our throats.

Thus, we have been unable to unite behind a candidate, and have instead been tearing at each other's throats throughout this process in a way that is unprecedented.

The right wing side of the republicans have been hyjacking the party for years and years. How else would a person like Palin make it on ticket. Bush was just right wing enough for the right wing of the party but since the Tea Party it has become much worse with the influence of the right wing section of the republicans.
 
It is early, but you can't turn a frog into a prince, and frogs you got. Too bad you guys didn't give huntsman a longer look.

Yeah, but...you guys are stuck with Obama and there ain't no putting lipstick on that pig. :lamo
 
Yeah, but...you guys are stuck with Obama and there ain't no putting lipstick on that pig. :lamo

That would be President Obama - the guy who is kicking your parties wannabes butts.

Apparently,not enough of the nation agrees with the far right wing and their hatred of the President.
 
Yeah, but...you guys are stuck with Obama and there ain't no putting lipstick on that pig. :lamo
A full house is better than a pair of duds any day of the week.
 
The right wing side of the republicans have been hyjacking the party for years and years. How else would a person like Palin make it on ticket. Bush was just right wing enough for the right wing of the party but since the Tea Party it has become much worse with the influence of the right wing section of the republicans.

They're running the risk of eventually alienating the independents and moderates who are the key to actually getting elected. Take the phenomenon of the "Reagan Democrats." These were not lefties who suddenly "saw the light" and switched flavors of kool-aid. These were independents who normally leaned Democrat, but found Reagan appealing enough to vote for him.

Now we've got one candidate who could appeal to moderates (Romney), who unfortunately has the personality of a robot. And I just said that about the guy that I'm supporting right now! Whoever does win the nomination gets the privilege of running against Obama's record (just as Obama had the the luck to run against Bush's in late 2008). Nominating Santorum would mean that the GOP is banking on the fact that Obama's record is bad enough to cause people to vote for a guy that they don't like at all. That's an awful big risk, but it seems right now to be either him or a robot.

Wow. I get to choose between either a guy who wants to tell me what to do with my dick or Obama's record. I'll try to contain my enthusiasm.
 
It is early, but you can't turn a frog into a prince, and frogs you got. Too bad you guys didn't give huntsman a longer look.

Yeah, but...you guys are stuck with Obama and there ain't no putting lipstick on that pig. :lamo

The frog against the pig in a no holds barred death match. This year is going to be so much fun.
 
The Republican voter wants "anybody but Romeny," but the Establishment is forcing Romney down our throats.

Thus, we have been unable to unite behind a candidate, and have instead been tearing at each other's throats throughout this process in a way that is unprecedented.

Wait! I thought FoxNews viewers were suppose to picked the next GOP presidential candidate? (Re: the book, Revolt! by Dick Morris and Eileen McGann, pages 27-29) You were suppose to stay clued to your TV, watch FoxNews, watch the GOP debates and make a well informed decision as to who would be the nominee for your party for the 2012 presidential election. Guess that's not working out as planned, huh? ;)
 
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Funny, when listening to Sean Hannity yesterday you'd think the numbers would be much different. Hannity was going on and on AND ON about how hideous Obama's approval ratings were and that no other sitting president in history has had worse numbers. He was making it sound like a SLAM DUNK for any Republican candidate to just walk into the White House almost unopposed.

I was literally laughing out loud at what I was hearing.

they don't call him Sean Insanity for nothing.
 
They're running the risk of eventually alienating the independents and moderates who are the key to actually getting elected. Take the phenomenon of the "Reagan Democrats." These were not lefties who suddenly "saw the light" and switched flavors of kool-aid. These were independents who normally leaned Democrat, but found Reagan appealing enough to vote for him.

Now we've got one candidate who could appeal to moderates (Romney), who unfortunately has the personality of a robot. And I just said that about the guy that I'm supporting right now! Whoever does win the nomination gets the privilege of running against Obama's record (just as Obama had the the luck to run against Bush's in late 2008). Nominating Santorum would mean that the GOP is banking on the fact that Obama's record is bad enough to cause people to vote for a guy that they don't like at all. That's an awful big risk, but it seems right now to be either him or a robot.

Wow. I get to choose between either a guy who wants to tell me what to do with my dick or Obama's record. I'll try to contain my enthusiasm.

the thing you have to remember about the Republican party today is that winning elections is really not that important to them. Ideological purity - as in being a true Far Right Wing Republican and not one of those dreaded RINO's - is the important thing. And long may it remain so for them.
 
the thing you have to remember about the Republican party today is that winning elections is really not that important to them. Ideological purity - as in being a true Far Right Wing Republican and not one of those dreaded RINO's - is the important thing. And long may it remain so for them.

And that's the Republican Party's undoing. They're a party without an identity right now. The old guard, the old ideals - they no longer hold water.

Fact is, this country doesn't work from a position of one-party rule. And what has transpired for much of the last 40 years has been right-wing economic policies that have brought this country the closest its ever been to ruin. If you doubt me, do your homework and study up on peak oil in the US, the gold standard versus the oil standard and how Nixon linked the U.S. dollar to oil, how inflation is systematically controlled in two ways: 1) via the Treasury/Federal Reserve moreso by burning money to keep excess dollars out of circulation and 2) changing the tax code either temporarily (i.e., the Bush tax cuts) or long-term (1986 tax reform), how our nation's economic policies have centered around debt and consumption through financial services rather than manufacturing. It's no wonder people are worried we will face the same problems as Greece if we don't bring manufacturing jobs back to the U.S.

There are a host of issues that are affecting this country right now. The only way to really understand it all is to read, study the issues and accept a few harsh realities. Once again, here's my short reading list:

Bad Money - Kevin Phillips
Too Big to Fail - Andrew Sorkin
Your Government Failed You - Richard A. Clarke
Broken Government - John Dean

Those four publications alone should open most people's eyes to how bad things were and just how close we came to losing it all under Republican economic policies. Now, I'm not saying President Obama's economic policies will be much better. But if he does what I think he'll do (and he's already shown signs of that, i.e., lowering the corporate tax rate at or below 30%, raising the capital gains tax, eliminating the Bush tax cuts specifically for the upper crust and brining manufacturing jobs back to the U.S.), there won't be a reason for people not to re-elect him. In fact, I'd say that the only way he doesn't get re-elected are:

1) a significant corruption scandal (which the Republican party hasn't been able to find or make stick, i.e. Fast and Furious, Solyndra or even aiding the Lybian rebels which I admit even I was 50/50 over)

2) taking this country to war with either Iran or Syria.

Anything short of these two aspects will assure his re-election. The economy will fix itself because U.S. investors realize they've pretty much stopped the bleeding from European markets and are now poised to focus strictly on repairing the U.S. economy. Believe me, they won't let American businesses fail.

Sidenote: Sorry...didn't mean to hijack the thread, but I felt the quote above desereved a broad response.
 
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Funny, when listening to Sean Hannity yesterday you'd think the numbers would be much different. Hannity was going on and on AND ON about how hideous Obama's approval ratings were and that no other sitting president in history has had worse numbers. He was making it sound like a SLAM DUNK for any Republican candidate to just walk into the White House almost unopposed.

I was literally laughing out loud at what I was hearing.
Always curious that people like you would bother LISTENING to a Hannity or a Limbaugh.

The GOP field is horrible. Iv'e always said Obama wins reelection by hook or by crook, but these pretenders are just making it easy for him. The ONLY possible candidate for the GOP is Romney, and only because his views are so fluid any independents might be willing to vote for a guy that isnt Obama but wont be all that radically different from him.
 
the thing you have to remember about the Republican party today is that winning elections is really not that important to them. Ideological purity - as in being a true Far Right Wing Republican and not one of those dreaded RINO's - is the important thing. And long may it remain so for them.

The more they work toward that end, the more they risk an increase in moderate power. After they have their purge, the moderates may form their own, more moderate party. And that would be a force to reckon with, I guarantee you.
 
Only a fool listens to the opinions of those who agree with him and excludes all others. I listen to Fox and Limbaugh because I want to know my enemy.
 
Look. Whether we like it or not, most everyone, partisan hacks notwithstanding, know the real deal and have a pretty good clue as to who is going to win what. We aren't going to get all freaked about about much of any poll, candidate, cable news pundit, forum blogger. It is what it is.

I understand the political process must go through the motions and spend millions upon millions for a futile cause. I get it.

What does upset me is knowing there is no escaping the months on end propaganda surge that is about to invade my television set. As if the Geico commercials weren't enough.

Not to mention the pages and pages on here clustered with political hacks spewing crap about people they don't actually know a thing about.

I guess what I am saying is that this exercize in futility seems like a total waste of time for all concerned.
 
Look. Whether we like it or not, most everyone, partisan hacks notwithstanding, know the real deal and have a pretty good clue as to who is going to win what. We aren't going to get all freaked about about much of any poll, candidate, cable news pundit, forum blogger. It is what it is.

I understand the political process must go through the motions and spend millions upon millions for a futile cause. I get it.

What does upset me is knowing there is no escaping the months on end propaganda surge that is about to invade my television set. As if the Geico commercials weren't enough.

Not to mention the pages and pages on here clustered with political hacks spewing crap about people they don't actually know a thing about.

I guess what I am saying is that this exercize in futility seems like a total waste of time for all concerned.

Correct. Hacks will post polls day after day which show what they want them show, and then argue why the next day's polls don't mean anything.
 
Correct. Hacks will post polls day after day which show what they want them show, and then argue why the next day's polls don't mean anything.

Rinse and repeat. Talk about Deja vu. Doesn't it seem just like yesterday we were all having this discussion on what a **** up Bush Corp. was? Other than the role reversal, it all sounds the same.
 
So who wins and leads us to the promise land Romney, Santorum or Obama?
 
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