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Are the odds of President Obama being re-elected improving? Are the odds of Presiden

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disneydude said:
By failing to put up even a half-way viable candidate, the GOP has ensured Obama's re-election. Thank you GOP. See you in 2016
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You are so right, we certainly wouldn't want to look at results from the Obama term, would we?

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The Real Employment Data Are Bleak And Don't Look Good For An Obama Re-Election - Investors.com

Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Obama wants to Get Re-Elected.
 
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Conservative said:
You are so right, we certainly wouldn't want to look at results from the Obama term, would we?
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LOL....we all know that results mean nothing to you Conservative. You still think that one of the biggest failures in the history of the Presidency was an outstanding President and are praying for a vindication that will never come. Some forgive us if we don't take you seriously.

Obama certainly has his problems but unfortunately for you and your lot, we have an improving economy (that would have been improving more if not for the efforts of the GOP to protect tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans). We also have a foreign policy that has achieved the results that GWB could never dream of, or rather made little effort to achieve.

You guys might have had a chance, however, with only the sorriest of candidates left, your best shot is in 2016.
 
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disneydude said:
LOL....we all know that results mean nothing to you Conservative. You still think that one of the biggest failures in the history of the Presidency was an outstanding President and are praying for a vindication that will never come. Some forgive us if we don't take you seriously.

Obama certainly has his problems but unfortunately for you and your lot, we have an improving economy (that would have been improving more if not for the efforts of the GOP to protect tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans). We also have a foreign policy that has achieved the results that GWB could never dream of, or rather made little effort to achieve.

You guys might have had a chance, however, with only the sorriest of candidates left, your best shot is in 2016.
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I hate to break it to you and know it is going to be a shock, but Bush isn't on the ballot but if he was he would get my vote over Obama because the 8 year average is better than the Obama average for the past three years but you show what most people already know most Obama supporters are very poorly informed and results don't matter/
 
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I think Santorum is the only true Conservative running and he definitely has a chance to beat the incompetent Hussein Obama. Its to bad they can't take teleprompters away during the debates. Every time they do that it proves what a mental midget Hussein Obama is.
 
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Conservative said:
I hate to break it to you and know it is going to be a shock, but Bush isn't on the ballot but if he was he would get my vote over Obama because the 8 year average is better than the Obama average for the past three years but you show what most people already know most Obama supporters are very poorly informed and results don't matter/
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There are actually 12 battleground states and Obama is below 50% approval rating in all of them......Stay tuned.
 
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Navy Pride said:
I think Santorum is the only true Conservative running and he definitely has a chance to beat the incompetent Hussein Obama. Its to bad they can't take teleprompters away during the debates. Every time they do that it proves what a mental midget Hussein Obama is.
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given a choice navy, who would you rather the republicans nominate, santorum or romney?
 
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Navy Pride said:
I think Santorum is the only true Conservative running and he definitely has a chance to beat the incompetent Hussein Obama. Its to bad they can't take teleprompters away during the debates. Every time they do that it proves what a mental midget Hussein Obama is.
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What debate are you talking about? I have yet to see any debates from the 2008 or 2012 election cycle that allowed teleprompters. Obama did very well against a very knowledgeable and experienced McCain last election. Against a guy like Santorum with no original ideas and no personality, it would be a very one side victory for Obama.
 
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Conservative said:
I hate to break it to you and know it is going to be a shock, but Bush isn't on the ballot but if he was he would get my vote over Obama because the 8 year average is better than the Obama average for the past three years but you show what most people already know most Obama supporters are very poorly informed and results don't matter/
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Where did I say he was? Selective reading on your part...or perhaps attempts to avoid the reference. The point being that your judgement is highly suspect when you talk about "results" yet voted more than once for someone who's results were simply atrocious. I hate to break it to you, but its going to be a long four years for people like you....but maybe...just maybe you guys can find someone in 2016
 
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Maybe his chances have improved a little but he's still in big trouble no matter how bad the Republicans are.
The bottom line is that this election is a referendum on him and his management of things and I think by enlarge it's been pretty bad. Most of the people I know who bought the whole "hope and change" line will not be voting for him again as they believe they were betrayed on so many levels.

And for what it's worth, the polls are meaningless right now.
 
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Navy Pride said:
I think Santorum is the only true Conservative running and he definitely has a chance to beat the incompetent Hussein Obama. Its to bad they can't take teleprompters away during the debates. Every time they do that it proves what a mental midget Hussein Obama is.
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If teleprompters are allowed at debates, I guarantee you that all the Republicans would be using them also. Some of the things that Gingrich says makes me think that either there are no teleprompters, he isn't reading what they say, or his handlers are beyond incompetent.
 
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johnny_rebson said:
That sound byte will be played over and over again.

The best thing that could happen would be a brokered convention where a brand new candidate was chosen as the nominee.
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And who do you think that would be. I like Rubio and J. Bush. Wouldn't it be something if we could get Jeb Bush elected. Would that torque the jaes of our left wing friends?:lamo
 
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disneydude said:
Where did I say he was? Selective reading on your part...or perhaps attempts to avoid the reference. The point being that your judgement is highly suspect when you talk about "results" yet voted more than once for someone who's results were simply atrocious. I hate to break it to you, but its going to be a long four years for people like you....but maybe...just maybe you guys can find someone in 2016
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I stand by my statement, Obama supporters have no business voting as they are proving to me the most poorly informed voters ever to cast a ballot. The Obama record doesn't deserve a second term and most people understand that. I am waiting for you to show me what results Bush had were worse than the results of Obama remembering that Bush was in office 8 years not just 2008. Whether it be jobs, unemployment, debt, Bush's numbers were all better than the results Obama has generated.
 
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rocket88 said:
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If teleprompters are allowed at debates, I guarantee you that all the Republicans would be using them also. Some of the things that Gingrich says makes me think that either there are no teleprompters, he isn't reading what they say, or his handlers are beyond incompetent.
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I don't care abut Romney anymore. I am firmly behind Rick Santorum.
 
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randel said:
given a choice navy, who would you rather the republicans nominate, santorum or romney?
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Santorum my friend, jhe is really the only true Conservative in the race. Romeny is a RINO. who the democrats would love to see get the nomination.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Santorum my friend, jhe is really the only true Conservative in the race. Romeny is a RINO. who the democrats would love to see get the nomination.
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Actually the Dems would love Santorum, because the majority of the country will not stand behind such a religious nutball.

Romney is the only one the Dems really have to worry about. A Santorum nomination and the Dems will be popping corks to celebrate 4 more years of Obama.

It's really a shame the GOP couldn't put up anything other than religious nuts and empty suits.
 
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Conservative said:
I stand by my statement, Obama supporters have no business voting as they are proving to me the most poorly informed voters ever to cast a ballot. The Obama record doesn't deserve a second term and most people understand that. I am waiting for you to show me what results Bush had were worse than the results of Obama remembering that Bush was in office 8 years not just 2008. Whether it be jobs, unemployment, debt, Bush's numbers were all better than the results Obama has generated.
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well folks, end of discussion, he 'stands' by his statement...:roll:
 
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I take Intrade pretty seriously. On Intrade, you have to put your money where your mouth is. At this moment, the odds are 59.3% that Obusha will be re-elected.

And, IMHO, he will be re-elected by default. He's a very weak President but he has a following among the poorest and the unions, who he has given a great deal of time, money and focus. So, that's his equivalent to the ultra-religious who are solidly in the Anybody-But-Obusha court. As for the middle class, the dialemma is the devil we know or the devil we don't.

IMHO, the only Republican who stands a chance of beating Obama is Romney. I don't know that I would vote FOR Romney but I might not vote against him either. He certainly has management skills and while his key topic is eliminating the taxes that affect him personally (capital gains and inheritance), he still seems to have the capacity to at least maintain the status quo. I think he will, in fact, be the GOP candidate unless the GOP leadership decides that they have no hope of winning this election in which case they might choose Santorum as a pre-determined loser in order to energize their Social Conservative base.

As usual, we must choose between the lesser of evils. I'm guessing that the voting participation in this election will be at record lows.
 
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AdamT said:
Don't forget Mitt "I don't care about the very poor" Romney. :lol:
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I believe he said he doesn't "worry" about the very poor not he doesn't "care". He's right. Between all their safety nets, they've got people watching out for them unlike we middle classers.
 
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Vette said:
Maybe his chances have improved a little but he's still in big trouble no matter how bad the Republicans are.
The bottom line is that this election is a referendum on him and his management of things and I think by enlarge it's been pretty bad. Most of the people I know who bought the whole "hope and change" line will not be voting for him again as they believe they were betrayed on so many levels.

And for what it's worth, the polls are meaningless right now.
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The Republicans will look better once they settle on a candidate and start battling Obama instead of each other. I know some people who voted for Obama in 2008 and regret it. They won't make that same mistake twice.
 
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Conservative said:
I stand by my statement, Obama supporters have no business voting as they are proving to me the most poorly informed voters ever to cast a ballot. The Obama record doesn't deserve a second term and most people understand that. I am waiting for you to show me what results Bush had were worse than the results of Obama remembering that Bush was in office 8 years not just 2008. Whether it be jobs, unemployment, debt, Bush's numbers were all better than the results Obama has generated.
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This coming from a guy who is still unaware that obviously cumulative BLS data is cumulative.

Hey Conservative, does the population of the US double monthly?
 
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TheNextEra said:
Actually the Dems would love Santorum, because the majority of the country will not stand behind such a religious nutball.
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Santorum will lose independents and youth in droves. Elections are won on the backs of independents and the largest growth in independents are the youth. We saw what happens when you pick a questionable religious figure to lead. You watch independents flee.

After Huntsman bailed out, Romney is the only real threat. The GOP knows it is giving Obama another term if Santorum is nominated.

I totally agree with Limbaugh that the GOP Establishment is in panic over Santorum:

Rush Limbaugh: GOP Establishment In A Panic Over Santorum | Mediaite
 
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obvious Child said:
Santorum will lose independents and youth in droves. Elections are won on the backs of independents and the largest growth in independents are the youth. We saw what happens when you pick a questionable religious figure to lead. You watch independents flee.

After Huntsman bailed out, Romney is the only real threat. The GOP knows it is giving Obama another term if Santorum is nominated.

I totally agree with Limbaugh that the GOP Establishment is in panic over Santorum:

Rush Limbaugh: GOP Establishment In A Panic Over Santorum | Mediaite
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God, I am really getting bored of Romney supporters. Look at the nomination, can't you see that voters do not want Romney. Do you really think a candidate who can't even beat Gingrich or Santorum without destroying them, has any chance what so ever.

So, please stop talking about how the GOP should pick Romney because he got a better chance, because his chance of winning is almost zero. What is the point of winning with Romney anyway? Has the GOP sunk so low that they don't care about integrity, values, change or even their own voters. Why not focus on the long term consequences?
 
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specklebang said:
Obama, at best, is a mediocre President. However, in light of the complete absence of competition, he is almost surely to be re-elected by default.

Had one Republican stepped up with a viable plan of action that mattered, they could have swept Obama away. Instead, the Republicans have shredded each other and their main rallying point seems to be "give me a tax cut". Not very inspirational. I don't think I would be at all inclined to vote FOR Obama, I might not vote AGAINST Romney and if Santorum is the candidate, I will not only vote for Obsuha (sic), I will have all 3 of my cats vote for him as well.
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Romney has a good chance, though it would take a spectacular miracle for him to secure a certain victory. Huntsman had the intelligence and the necessary requirements, but his lack of rhetoric and an organized campaign failed him.
I agree, Obama as a whole is at best a normal president. If hadn't been for the dimwits that are running against him, he would have lost
 
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tres borrachos said:
The Republicans will look better once they settle on a candidate and start battling Obama instead of each other. I know some people who voted for Obama in 2008 and regret it. They won't make that same mistake twice.
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True. I voted for Obama in '08, and I'll only make that mistake twice if it saves me from making a worse mistake (like voting for Rick Santorum).
 
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obvious Child said:
Santorum will lose independents and youth in droves. Elections are won on the backs of independents and the largest growth in independents are the youth. We saw what happens when you pick a questionable religious figure to lead. You watch independents flee.

After Huntsman bailed out, Romney is the only real threat. The GOP knows it is giving Obama another term if Santorum is nominated.

I totally agree with Limbaugh that the GOP Establishment is in panic over Santorum:

Rush Limbaugh: GOP Establishment In A Panic Over Santorum | Mediaite
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It's kind of funny when Rush goes off about the "Republican Establishment" for a guy like Santorum, whose record in the Senate indicates that he's as establishment as they come.
 
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