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Romney Wins CPAC Vote

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Traditionally recently picked up by Ron Paul. I wonder if this gives him a boost with regards to "conservative credentials", or if anyone even notices? Hard for people to call backers like Ann Coulter a RINO.


Romney wins The Washington Times/CPAC Straw Poll

Mitt Romney won The Washington Times/CPAC Presidential Straw Poll on Saturday, and also nipped Rick Santorum as the top choice of conservatives nationwide, according to a new version of the poll conducted for the first time this year that suggests Mr. Romney retains strong support among self-identified conservatives.


Mr. Romney won 38 percent of the straw poll, which counted the votes of 3,408 activists gathered for the Conservative Political Action Conference, which ran from Thursday through Saturday at a hotel in Washington...


Mr. Santorum was second with 31 percent, Newt Gingrich was third with 15 percent and Rep. Ron Paul was fourth with 12 percent — far below his showing the last two years, when he won with 31 in 2010 and 30 percent in 2011.


In the national survey, meanwhile, Mr. Romney barely topped Mr. Santorum 27 percent to 25 percent, with Mr. Gingrich in third place at 20 percent and Mr. Paul again trailing at 8 percent...

Mr. Romney’s 38 percent of the vote among CPAC activists is the highest of any candidate since George W. Bush won 42 percent of the vote in 2000, en route to the nomination and the White House.
 
Traditionally recently picked up by Ron Paul. I wonder if this gives him a boost with regards to "conservative credentials", or if anyone even notices? Hard for people to call backers like Ann Coulter a RINO.
She's a RINO now that she's rooting for Mitt, yes.
 
Traditionally recently picked up by Ron Paul. I wonder if this gives him a boost with regards to "conservative credentials", or if anyone even notices? Hard for people to call backers like Ann Coulter a RINO.

She's worse, she's a partisan for cash.
 
Romney paid her?
 
Romney paid her?

No I meant she's a person for whom politics is profession, and she is a professional commentator. She makes her living being inflammatory, being a mouth piece, writing books, etc. To me she is a symbol of one of the things that is wrong with politics today, people who I believe have no or little real belief in what they preach but they make a lot of money preaching it and by building up a following which violently rejects the opposition. People that instead of discourse, promote mockery and dehumanization of their opponents rather than understanding and compromise over disagreements.

Her book titles are as follows:

High Crimes and Misdemeanors: The Case Against Bill Clinton
Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right
Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism
How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must): The World According to Ann Coulter
Godless: The Church of Liberalism
If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans
Demonic: How the Liberal Mob Is Endangering America

These books are made for the consumption of people who don't want their beliefs challenged, instead they want them re-enforced, and like children when people's beliefs aren't shown to be wrong or challenged from time to time they become spoiled, and reasonable discourse because harder and harder with them. It bares some characteristics to Orwellian mindset, where a group is demonized and exists for nothing more than an enemy for them to unite around.

Ann Coulter and similar political commentators are part of the problem that is wrong with this country, they encourage and seem to live in a fantasy world where the world is divided into a simple binary system of liberals vs conservatives, where the members of each group are identical, where your side is never wrong and their side is the incarnation of the devil, where history is re-written, denied, or created to suit the needs of the party.

This situation is certainly not unique to conservatism, or Republicans, but Ann Coulter is an enabler of this kind of thinking, and its all traces its way back to cash flow. The more she can make her audience utterly reject the other side, the more she can become a mouthpiece for Republicans and conservatism, the more books she can sell, the more TV appearances she can make, the more speaking arrangements she can have. And what's worse is that the more uncompromising she is, the more successful she is. Just look at these boards if you don't believe me, what topics always generate the most attention? The one's with the most extreme or the most partisan OPs. The more partisan, the more bias, and the simpler, something is the more attention it gathers because its easier for people to attack or defend(depending on what you want to do).
 
No I meant she's a person for whom politics is profession, and she is a professional commentator. She makes her living being inflammatory, being a mouth piece, writing books, etc. To me she is a symbol of one of the things that is wrong with politics today, people who I believe have no or little real belief in what they preach but they make a lot of money preaching it and by building up a following which violently rejects the opposition. People that instead of discourse, promote mockery and dehumanization of their opponents rather than understanding and compromise over disagreements.

Her book titles are as follows:

High Crimes and Misdemeanors: The Case Against Bill Clinton
Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right
Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism
How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must): The World According to Ann Coulter
Godless: The Church of Liberalism
If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans
Demonic: How the Liberal Mob Is Endangering America

These books are made for the consumption of people who don't want their beliefs challenged, instead they want them re-enforced, and like children when people's beliefs aren't shown to be wrong or challenged from time to time they become spoiled, and reasonable discourse because harder and harder with them. It bares some characteristics to Orwellian mindset, where a group is demonized and exists for nothing more than an enemy for them to unite around.

Ann Coulter and similar political commentators are part of the problem that is wrong with this country, they encourage and seem to live in a fantasy world where the world is divided into a simple binary system of liberals vs conservatives, where the members of each group are identical, where your side is never wrong and their side is the incarnation of the devil, where history is re-written, denied, or created to suit the needs of the party.

This situation is certainly not unique to conservatism, or Republicans, but Ann Coulter is an enabler of this kind of thinking, and its all traces its way back to cash flow. The more she can make her audience utterly reject the other side, the more she can become a mouthpiece for Republicans and conservatism, the more books she can sell, the more TV appearances she can make, the more speaking arrangements she can have. And what's worse is that the more uncompromising she is, the more successful she is. Just look at these boards if you don't believe me, what topics always generate the most attention? The one's with the most extreme or the most partisan OPs. The more partisan, the more bias, and the simpler, something is the more attention it gathers because its easier for people to attack or defend(depending on what you want to do).

Personally, I despise Ann Coulter, Beck, Hannity, etc. I like Limbaugh and O'Reilly. Guys like them are in a different stratosphere (in regards to popularity) not because they are ultra-conservative (though they are most of the time) but because they are independent thinkers. Limbaugh is much more conservative than anyone I speak of but every once in a while he will voice an opinion that is different from what the majority of conservatives believe. O'Reilly regularly goes against what traditional conservatives believe. Many people, liberal and conservative, just believe what their loudest voices say. Big mistake. Like it was stated earlier, many of these people just say what they know their listeners want to hear. I have yet to hear a liberal commentator that will concede that the other side is right. I will also admit that I don't regularly listen to them. There are next to none on the radio, Dish Network doesn't provide MSNBC with the package I have (lol!), and I don't know of any bloggers that are this way. If anyone knows of any, please let me know so I can follow them. I am all about listening to the other side. Gotta know your enemy lol. J/K.
 
Hard for people to call backers like Ann Coulter a RINO.

Or it's a case of the vitriolic litmus test that conservative pundits and voters put their own through backfiring spectacularly on them.
 
No I meant she's a person for whom politics is profession, and she is a professional commentator. She makes her living being inflammatory, being a mouth piece, writing books, etc.

those things are not interchangeable. Charles Kraughthammer, for example, is a professional commentator.
 
This vote demonstrates two things that should come as a shock to nobody following politics

1) an admission by many conservatives that their highest priority is taking back the White House regardless of how pure that individual may actually be and they accept Romney as inevitable
2) the power of money above all other things in the GOP. Wall Street is always served and their agenda and interest are always placed in front of the social conservatives who are merely used for their numbers.
 
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Q: will conservatives ever wake up and realize that ALL of these so-called pundits are nothing but entertainers who will say whatever it is they think they need to say to maximize their profits?
 
Q: will conservatives ever wake up and realize that ALL of these so-called pundits are nothing but entertainers who will say whatever it is they think they need to say to maximize their profits?

Perhaps they enjoy the show?
 
Personally, I despise Ann Coulter, Beck, Hannity, etc. I like Limbaugh and O'Reilly. Guys like them are in a different stratosphere (in regards to popularity) not because they are ultra-conservative (though they are most of the time) but because they are independent thinkers. Limbaugh is much more conservative than anyone I speak of but every once in a while he will voice an opinion that is different from what the majority of conservatives believe. O'Reilly regularly goes against what traditional conservatives believe. Many people, liberal and conservative, just believe what their loudest voices say. Big mistake. Like it was stated earlier, many of these people just say what they know their listeners want to hear. I have yet to hear a liberal commentator that will concede that the other side is right. I will also admit that I don't regularly listen to them. There are next to none on the radio, Dish Network doesn't provide MSNBC with the package I have (lol!), and I don't know of any bloggers that are this way. If anyone knows of any, please let me know so I can follow them. I am all about listening to the other side. Gotta know your enemy lol. J/K.

I think Limbaugh is a gas bag full of hot air, who only speaks so he can see his bloviated lips flapping in the mirror. I like O'Reilly, though. He may be partisan, and his no spin zone is a whole pail of spin, but he does bring some important issues to the forefront.
 
those things are not interchangeable. Charles Kraughthammer, for example, is a professional commentator.

Agreed, Krauthammer is a great analyst.
 
I think Limbaugh is a gas bag full of hot air, who only speaks so he can see his bloviated lips flapping in the mirror. I like O'Reilly, though. He may be partisan, and his no spin zone is a whole pail of spin, but he does bring some important issues to the forefront.

I don't think he spins. I take "no spin" as he doesn't report things skewed to his view. He reports what happened, states his opinion and most of the time has someone on the show that has the opposite opinion of him. He actually defended Ellen Degeneres this past week when many conservatives where calling for her and JC Penny's head. Limbaugh, like I said, usually says things that most ultra conservatives will agree with. However, he is an independent thinker. He'll go after a GOPer just as fast as a liberal. I like that.
 
Q: will conservatives ever wake up and realize that ALL of these so-called pundits are nothing but entertainers who will say whatever it is they think they need to say to maximize their profits?
Don't speak as though libs don't do the same thing. The entire country is at fault for believing the words of a few instead of building their own beliefs and knowing why they believe it.
 
Traditionally recently picked up by Ron Paul. I wonder if this gives him a boost with regards to "conservative credentials", or if anyone even notices? Hard for people to call backers like Ann Coulter a RINO.

I would love to see Paul and Gingrich pack it in and then see who picks up the people that support them
 
I would love to see Paul and Gingrich pack it in and then see who picks up the people that support them

Nah, I love Paul. I wouldn't vote for him because of his belief that the states should handle abortion. That is literally the only thing that keeps me from being a Paulite. I love the guys message and how none of the candidates will go after him. I know they think that there is no benefit so he's kind of the kooky old guy in the corner that mumbles about the old days and everyone smiles and nods lol.
 
I would love to see Paul and Gingrich pack it in and then see who picks up the people that support them
I don't see how the Republicans can possibly win without the Paul voters on their side, and a big chunk of them (myself included) would disappear if Paul dropped out.
 
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