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If Romney Becomes the GOP Nominee - will Obama make a play to anti-Mormon bigotry?

Will they try to make use of anti-Mormon Bigotry against Romney?

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Re: If Romney Becomes the GOP Nominee - will Obama make a play to anti-Mormon bigotry

Are there mormon members of DP? Would they vote for Romney just because he is Mormon?
 
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Enola said:
Are there mormon members of DP? Would they vote for Romney just because he is Mormon?
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The Utah vote in the Republican primary may answer that question as a statistical comparison to other states. Romney is not from Utah or any state bordering it. Utah Republicans are particularly conservative - meaning tending to go away from Romney. But it also has a large number of Mormons. So the result may answer the question.

A massive pro-Romney vote in Utah could hurt Romney.
 
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Obama wouldn't sink that low. He doesn't have to and even if he did, he still wouldn't do it. He has an ethical sense as well as too much pride to do that kind of nonsense.
 
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Enola said:
Are there mormon members of DP? Would they vote for Romney just because he is Mormon?
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Total population over 14 million[1]

United States about 6.1 million

Mexico about 1.2 million

Brazil about 1.1 million

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Source: Mormons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I would imagine DP has some Mormons. I've only met one and he seemed like a very nice person. The religion is about the size of all the Jews in the world, which is 14.6 million. Mormons tend to live around the Utah area and even up into Idaho. Those areas are Red states, so I don't think Romney is going to benefit in the Electorial College from the Mormon vote. The issue of Romney being a Mormon could be a factor in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and Missouri. I think the issue could be involved with voter turnout, but I don't think Romney's religion is something that can be played.
 
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upsideguy said:
Actually, it would be much closer as its core theology (doctrinal issues) are mainstream Christian beliefs.
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that is true...

They would accept the Nicene Creed and do not offer additional Testaments of the Bible (like the Book of Mormon). Black Liberation theology just places a higher emphasis on social issues and changing social condition than much of the mainstream.
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but that is not, especially as preached by Rev. Wright.

But even mainstream churches, such as the United Methodist Church, believe strongly in activism to affect social change.
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indeed (I am a Methodist) - but you might as well say that Mormons are just like Baptists because both have conservative social mores.
 
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poweRob said:
After the negative question is thrown out there they follow it with the valid and solid source known as:

"Some say..."
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Yeaaaaaahhh. ONLY Fox News does that. :roll:
 
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Uzidoesit said:
Obama wouldn't sink that low. He doesn't have to and even if he did, he still wouldn't do it. He has an ethical sense as well as too much pride to do that kind of nonsense.
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If they didn't have Super PACS, I am not under any delusion Obama would sink that low if he had to. I think Obama would let the Republicans set the pace on the mudslinging, but I don't think Obama is above that.
 
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cpwill said:
Will they try to make use of anti-Mormon Bigotry against Romney?
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No.Here is why.Romney is a liberal pretending to be a conservative and rich. So the only thing Obama has to do is play on the fact Romney is a bigger flip flopper than John Kerry and play the envy card with the waa boo hoo its not fair that Romney is rich and you aren't ads. Real conservatives won't vote for Romney because a vote for Romney will ensure that republicans will keep propping up more liberals in future presidential elections.
 
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joko104 said:
The Utah vote in the Republican primary may answer that question as a statistical comparison to other states. Romney is not from Utah or any state bordering it. Utah Republicans are particularly conservative - meaning tending to go away from Romney. But it also has a large number of Mormons. So the result may answer the question.

A massive pro-Romney vote in Utah could hurt Romney.
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Yes, it could do that.... but only if the nation is ready for the Mormon centered discussion. At some point, Romney is going to have to spend time and money education the nation about his religion. That is unavoidable. To pretend it is not necessary is playing ostrich.
 
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Hatuey said:
Well then **** Hilary and Pennsylvania for being as dishonest as you. :)
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Hillary will SMITE you! :lol:
 
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Harshaw said:
Yeaaaaaahhh. ONLY Fox News does that. :roll:
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I'm sure you could find another channel doing it. But unfortunately for your point, 1 =/= 1,000.
 
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I highly doubt Obama will resort to public bigotry. He will most likely demonize Romney for being rich.
 
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poweRob said:
I'm sure you could find another channel doing it. But unfortunately for your point, 1 =/= 1,000.
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I have no doubt that's what you think the ratio is. Some people can only see bad practices in Fox News, and no one else.

Don't worry, though; it's a large fraternity around DP. You're not alone.
 
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Obama has had to endure a lot of bigotry and ignorance, so I don't see him encouraging more of it
 
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SheWolf said:
Obama has had to endure a lot of bigotry and ignorance, so I don't see him encouraging more of it
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Then you haven't been paying much attention, because he already has.
 
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cpwill said:
..... And so on and so forth. Many of Mormonism's beliefs are indeed outside the general Judeo-Christian mainstream; and it could indeed provide fertile ground.

I'm thinking, given much of the Left's cultural horror at people who actually believe, follow, and appear to succeed at following traditional socially conservative religion, and given that Obama's campaign plan is to immediately go hard negative... they will.

The question is whether or not it sparks a backlash.
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It would be pretty hard for Obama to run a more negative political campaign than that which the Republicans/Tea Party presidential candidates have already conducted in the primaries!

As Newt Gingrich has already pointed out thusfar, Mitt Romney has more than enough flaws without resorting to an attack on his religion.

Obama can defeat any and all comers on the issues!
 
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cpwill said:
Michael Walsh thinks so. I'll admit, after what we saw following Proposition 8 in California, it wouldn't be terribly surprising.



he points out that Frank Rich writes:

...As one prominent Romney surrogate, the Utah congressman Jason Chaffetz, has it, Romney is “the most vetted candidate out there.” Maybe — if you assume there will be no more questions about Bain, the Cayman Islands, the expunged internal records from Romney’s term as governor, or his pre-2010 tax returns. Or about the big dog that has yet to bark, and surely will by October: Romney’s long career as a donor to and lay official of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints....

Romney is even less forthcoming about his religion than he is about his tax returns. When the Evangelical view of Mormonism as a non-Christian cult threatened his 2008 run, Romney delivered what his campaign hyped as a JFK-inspired speech on “Faith in America.” This otherwise forgotten oration was memorable only for the number of times it named Romney’s own faith: once.

In the current campaign, Romney makes frequent reference to faith, God, and his fierce loyalty to “the same church.” But whether in debates, or in the acres of official material on his campaign website, or in a flyer pitched at religious voters in South Carolina, he never names what that faith or church is. In Romneyland, Mormonism is the religion that dare not speak its name. . . .

His campaign is intent on enforcing the redaction of his religion, not least, one imagines, because a Gallup poll found that 22 percent in both parties say they would not vote for a Mormon for president. . . . Like Romney’s evasions about his private finances, his conspicuous cone of silence about this major pillar of his biography also leaves you wondering what he is trying to hide. That his faith can be as secretive as he is — Ann Romney’s non-Mormon parents were not allowed to attend the religious ceremony consecrating her marriage to Mitt — only whets the curiosity among the 82 percent of Americans who tell pollsters they know little or nothing about Mormonism.​


And so on and so forth. Many of Mormonism's beliefs are indeed outside the general Judeo-Christian mainstream; and it could indeed provide fertile ground.

I'm thinking, given much of the Left's cultural horror at people who actually believe, follow, and appear to succeed at following traditional socially conservative religion, and given that Obama's campaign plan is to immediately go hard negative... they will.

The question is whether or not it sparks a backlash.
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So far the extreme Christian rights are the ones having problems with Mormonism, those people would not vote for Obama if Jesus told them to. Liberals don't have problem with one religion, they have problem with all the extreme religious nuts. Obama's theme's going to centre around economic fairness, no reason to muddy the water with religion, which almost sank his 2008 campaign.
 
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nonpareil said:
So far the extreme Christian rights are the ones having problems with Mormonism, those people would not vote for Obama if Jesus told them to. Liberals don't have problem with one religion, they have problem with all the extreme religious nuts
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the polling cited demonstrated roughly equal percentages (about 20%) of each party were loathe to pull the lever for a Mormon.
 
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It has about the same chance as Romney encouraging racism against blacks
 
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cpwill said:
the polling cited demonstrated roughly equal percentages (about 20%) of each party were loathe to pull the lever for a Mormon.
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And did they ask about other religion? The 20% from the left might answer the same way about all religion. The extreme religious right however do not have an aversion to all religion.
 
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For "some" voters it will be the Mormon vs. the Muslim.
 
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johnny_rebson said:
For "some" voters it will be the Mormon vs. the Muslim.
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Thankfully most people are smarter than that.
 
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