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Maine Caucuses 4Feb-11Feb2012 Thread

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24 nonbound delegates at stake. Paul could actually win here, which has to be good for some sort of boobie prize.
 
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24 nonbound delegates at stake. Paul could actually win here, which has to be good for some sort of boobie prize.
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I think it might be Ron Paul. Since it is a drag-caucus.
 
Ron Paul's been out there for a couple days now right? Gotta give it to the Doc, he's a go-getter.
 
He's definitely picking his battles rather than trying to fight out inevitable losses in FLA and SC.
 
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Ron Paul's been out there for a couple days now right? Gotta give it to the Doc, he's a go-getter.
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I give him credit for staying in there to get his message out, even though he knows he can't win. He may be a nut, but at least he is bringing up some important issues that would not be brought up otherwise.

I wish we had a liberal candidate to challenge Obama to bring about a discussion of liberal issues that Obama is not going to bring up.
 
Catawba said:
I give him credit for staying in there to get his message out, even though he knows he can't win. He may be a nut, but at least he is bringing up some important issues that would not be brought up otherwise.

I wish we had a liberal candidate to challenge Obama to bring about a discussion of liberal issues that Obama is not going to bring up.
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Obama can't do anything when it comes to Republican obstructionism and neither can anyone else. That's the way the system was designed. If the people in this country had a brain, the Republican Party would have been something they remember from a history book.
 
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Obama can't do anything when it comes to Republican obstructionism and neither can anyone else. That's the way the system was designed. If the people in this country had a brain, the Republican Party would have been something they remember from a history book.
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I mostly agree with you there but in some areas like nation building or military spending, it doesn't seem Obama is a whole lot less hawkish than the GOP. Back when we were months away from the withdrawal deadline with Iraq, the President did send people over there for a couple months to try to convince the Iraqis to extend our withdrawal deadline..

While I still feel he is the right choice in this election, I would have liked to have had a liberal contestant just to bring up these issues for discussion, much like what Ron Paul has done throughout the GOP debate... even though every one knows he can;t win!
 
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I mostly agree with you there but in some areas like nation building or military spending, it doesn't seem Obama is a whole lot less hawkish than the GOP. Back when we were months away from the withdrawal deadline with Iraq, the President did send people over there for a couple months to try to convince the Iraqis to extend our withdrawal deadline..

While I still feel he is the right choice in this election, I would have liked to have had a liberal contestant just to bring up these issues for discussion, much like what Ron Paul has done throughout the GOP debate... even though every one knows he can;t win!
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If we're stupid enough to invade a nation, thus changing things, then the responsibility of that action rests on us. Iraq was a fiasco, but so was the neglect of Afghanistan. I don't blame a President for doing things that the former administration set up. Terrorists are criminals and I want them sent to jail. It should be obvious to anyone that the Pakistanis were dancing in the streets when 9/11 happened. Where was Bin Laden found?
 
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If we're stupid enough to invade a nation, thus changing things, then the responsibility of that action rests on us. Iraq was a fiasco, but so was the neglect of Afghanistan. I don't blame a President for doing things that the former administration set up. Terrorists are criminals and I want them sent to jail. It should be obvious to anyone that the Pakistanis were dancing in the streets when 9/11 happened. Where was Bin Laden found?
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You make an excellent point Gary! Personally however, I don't feel that staying in Iraq longer than the agreed upon date would have accomplished any greater stability than it would if we stayed for another 5 years. In Afghanistan, I was for going after OBL and the other Saudis who attacked us on 9/11, but did not agree with when the action turned to nation building and our support of another corrupt regime. I will say that I think Obama's approach to the war on Terrorism, ie smaller military footprint, more covert police action than a big ground war make so much more sense, and again there is no doubt he is still the lesser evils of our two choices in November!
 
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You make an excellent point Gary! Personally however, I don't feel that staying in Iraq longer than the agreed upon date would have accomplished any greater stability than it would if we stayed for another 5 years. In Afghanistan, I was for going after OBL and the other Saudis who attacked us on 9/11, but did not agree with when the action turned to nation building and our support of another corrupt regime. I will say that I think Obama's approach to the war on Terrorism, ie smaller military footprint, more covert police action than a big ground war make so much more sense, and again there is no doubt he is still the lesser evils of our two choices in November!
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35% of Afghans are Pastuns and the Taliban are a political party that had power for only 5 years in most of the country. They gained power with Pakistani support. We should have had an active policy to get the other ethnic groups in Afghanistan to ban together and stengthened them to keep the Taliban out. We should have started that as soon as we arrived and be out of there by now. We shouldn't have went to war with Iraq in the first place. The people of a nation have to build their own nation.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Let's please try and keep the discussion on the Maine primary.
 
Redress said:
Moderator's Warning:
Let's please try and keep the discussion on the Maine primary.
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I understand that the emphasis on the Maine Caucus is on the Republicans, but the Democrats also have a Maine Caucus.

Candidates

The following have attained ballot status in at least one state:[7]

Barack Obama
Ed Cowan
Craig "Tax Freeze" Freis
Bob Greene
John Davis Haywood
Robert B. Jordan
Keith Russell Judd[8]
Robert "Bob" Moulton-Ely
Cornelius Edward O'Connor
Edward T.O'Donnell
Darcy G. Richardson
Jim Rogers
Vermin Supreme
Randall Terry
Aldous C. Tyler
John Wolfe, Jr.
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Source: Democratic Party presidential primaries, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Today is the last day to change your registration, but the Democrat Caucus vote isn't until Feb 26.

The results of the Republican Presidential Preference Poll taken at the caucuses will be announced at 7:30 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 11 at the Portland Regency Hotel.
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Source: Maine caucuses beginning Sunday | SeacoastOnline.com

I didn't realise this thread was just about the Republican Caucus and thought Maine would hold both at the same time.

Sadly, Vermin Supreme doesn't seem to be on the ballot in Maine, like he was in New Hampshire.

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Catawba said:
I give him credit for staying in there to get his message out, even though he knows he can't win. He may be a nut, but at least he is bringing up some important issues that would not be brought up otherwise.
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Too true. He's a fighter, if nothing else.
 
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Does anybody know when the votes will be counted in Maine?
 
The media is gearing the maine caucus up to be a massive blow to Romney if he loses to Paul and extends his losing streak to 4 states in a row. I'm not really buying that garbage though. Sounds more like media trying to sell papers.
 
Catawba said:
I give him credit for staying in there to get his message out, even though he knows he can't win. He may be a nut, but at least he is bringing up some important issues that would not be brought up otherwise.

I wish we had a liberal candidate to challenge Obama to bring about a discussion of liberal issues that Obama is not going to bring up.
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Which liberal issues do you speak of?
 
poweRob said:
The media is gearing the maine caucus up to be a massive blow to Romney if he loses to Paul and extends his losing streak to 4 states in a row. I'm not really buying that garbage though. Sounds more like media trying to sell papers.
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I don't know. Think if Romney does lose to Paul. I know I would laugh at him. Paul has admitted he can't win. He has admitted he is just getting his message out. If the supposed front runner can't even beat a guy who has self-proclaimed his election bid will fail, what does that say about him? Here's one way to look at it. Can Paul beat Obama? No way. So if Romney can't even a beat a guy we know would lose to Obama, how is he going to actually beat Obama.
 
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CNN reports Romney 39 percent; Paul 36 percent.
 
one thing I have learned from all this is that each state in the US is very different. I can see Maine from my house but yet in NH Ron Paul barley got a look in
 
MarineTpartier said:
Which liberal issues do you speak of?
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Ron Paul and liberals both believe that the Constitutional requirement for defense, does not include worldwide military hegemony.
 
Supposedly there was a major snowstorm in Washington County that dropped a near a inch of snow so they postpone their caucus to next week. Maine GOP said the caucuses that they delayed next week won't effect today's outcome. About 16% or 100 precincts weren't being conducted because of the near inch of snow.

Some were big RP counties so it sucks that near a inch of snow stopped people votes from being counted. I'm a bit surprise Mitt Romney's rally was held at the Maine GOP headquarters where they release the results. Also good estimate the GOP chairman gave that the difference will be 200 votes a day before the tally.

Oh well :( *kicks a can* This is bad because we lost a lot of momentum.

Good news, just like in Iowa, Nevada, MN, and CO, will likely come out with the most delegates.
 
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