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WASHINGTON (AP) — Just how rich is Mitt Romney? Add up the wealth of the last eight presidents, from Richard Nixon to Barack Obama. Then double that number. Now you're in Romney territory.

how do you think this number will effect the election?
 
I don't believe it should; good business sense (so long as it's honest) is a quality that should be praised not ridiculed, especially in this economic climate.
 
how do you think this number will effect the election?

What it tells me if, you work hard and study hard, you too could one day be the man/woman buying the Rolex or Ferrari
 
The fact that he's so rich doesn't tell me much. It's only after you look into HOW he got so rick that he starts looking kinda sleazy.
 
how do you think this number will effect the election?

I think those numbers together with his tax rate and his tax plan to cut taxes for the rich even further while increasing spending on the military, positively seal his loss in the general election.
 
I think those numbers together with his tax rate and his tax plan to cut taxes for the rich even further while increasing spending on the military, positively seal his loss in the general election.

Agreed. If he's the nominee we well see the Dems air ads about his tax rate and all the layoffs that Bain Capital was responsible for.
 
Agreed. If he's the nominee we well see the Dems air ads about his tax rate and all the layoffs that Bain Capital was responsible for.

as opposed to all the ads the dems will run about Newt's adultery, three wives, three religions and big bucks lobbying income?
 
So a divorced candidate can't win?

Reagan divorced and remarried.
 
Agreed. If he's the nominee we well see the Dems air ads about his tax rate and all the layoffs that Bain Capital was responsible for.

Yes of course, its already started:

 
There are only two types of people who will care that Romney is rich:

1. The people who want to use it as a weapon against him...the Democrats, with their divisive war on the rich rhetoric...and the Republicans who need to use it to defeat him in the primary.

2. The people who suck down whatever the above tell them.
 
Yes of course, its already started:



It's an amazing thing that the US is suppose to be the bastion of capitalism, but you have to have a Swiss bank account to protect yourself.
 
There are only two types of people who will care that Romney is rich:

1. The people who want to use it as a weapon against him...the Democrats, with their divisive war on the rich rhetoric...and the Republicans who need to use it to defeat him in the primary.

2. The people who suck down whatever the above tell them.


No one cares that Romney is rich.

What infuriates the working class (and will result in the the GOP loss in November), half of which average $15,800 annual income, is that an unemployed guy making more then 3 times in a day what they do in a year, is paying about the same tax rate, in addition to trying to shield some of his income from taxes in foreign accounts.
 
No one cares that Romney is rich.

What infuriates the working class (and will result in the the GOP loss in November), half of which average $15,800 annual income, is that an unemployed guy making more then 3 times in a day what they do in a year, is paying about the same tax rate, in addition to trying to shield some of his income from taxes in foreign accounts.

stop lying (of course you have to lie-that's what the dems have to do to wage class warfare)

the person who averages 15,800 in income is paying ZERO federal income taxes and probably getting a bunch back from the federal government (handouts in more common usage)
 
stop lying (of course you have to lie-that's what the dems have to do to wage class warfare)

the person who averages 15,800 in income is paying ZERO federal income taxes and probably getting a bunch back from the federal government (handouts in more common usage)

Poor turtle, in November he will learn the difference between FIT and Federal taxes paid, as the voters will have provided him a memorable lesson.
 
Poor turtle, in November he will learn the difference between FIT and Federal taxes paid, as the voters will have provided him a memorable lesson.

So i guess you learned a lesson in 2000 and 2004 and 2010

what a moronic comment

and I suspect no matter what happens in November, I will still be wealthy and you will still be whining about the wealthy
 
No one cares that Romney is rich.

What infuriates the working class (and will result in the the GOP loss in November), half of which average $15,800 annual income, is that an unemployed guy making more then 3 times in a day what they do in a year, is paying about the same tax rate, in addition to trying to shield some of his income from taxes in foreign accounts.

More of the class warfare crap, I see.

So what if they are paying the same tax rate? Is that a problem?

Catawba, do you count yourself as part of number one...or number two?
 
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So what if they are paying the same tax rate? Is that a problem?

Yes, it is a problem because it adds to the debt. The same debt that the middle class is being asked to accept reduced benefits to help reduce. And, even more importantly it furthers the wealth gap in this country that has left a consumer class without enough income to be consumers, so our economy cannot prosper.

There is simply no reason for the working class to continue voting for more and more tax cuts for the rich. Sorry!
 
and I suspect no matter what happens in November, I will still be wealthy and you will still be whining about the wealthy

Glad you are taking it in stride!
 
Yes, it is a problem because it adds to the debt. The same debt that the middle class is being asked to accept reduced benefits to help reduce. And, even more importantly it furthers the wealth gap in this country that has left a consumer class without enough income to be consumers, so our economy cannot prosper.

There is simply no reason for the working class to continue voting for more and more tax cuts for the rich. Sorry!

LOL!!!

Such utter claptrap.

Our debt is not a result of not enough government revenue...it's the result of too much government spending. That government spending is the result of the benefits you don't want to reduce. The "wealth gap" has no effect on how much the "consumer class" (whatever THAT is) spends. Consumers of any income level can spend as much..or as little...as they can afford. Taxing the rich won't change that one bit.

Everyone works. Calling one group the "working class" is ridiculous.

You see all these phrases in quotes? These are examples of the buzz words y'all use to further your class warfare. They mean whatever you think they mean...but they also mean nothing.

BTW, did anyone ever ask you to vote for more and more tax cuts for the rich? I'm just curious...because nobody ever asked me.
 
Our debt is not a result of not enough government revenue...it's the result of too much government spending. That government spending is the result of the benefits you don't want to reduce. The "wealth gap" has no effect on how much the "consumer class" (whatever THAT is) spends. Consumers of any income level can spend as much..or as little...as they can afford. Taxing the rich won't change that one bit.

Such utter claptrap.

Our debt was created by 30 years of both taxing the rich too little and spending too much on the military and optional wars. The only time in that entire 30 year period when we ever significantly reduced the deficit was when we both increased taxes on the rich and slashed military spending.

Everyone works. Calling one group the "working class" is ridiculous.

The working class, unlike people like Romney and Buffett have to pay payroll taxes on their entire income, in addition to income taxes.



BTW, did anyone ever ask you to vote for more and more tax cuts for the rich? I'm just curious...because nobody ever asked me.

Bush asked, and the people said yes. We all are being asked again in November. Everyone of the GOP candidates have proposed more tax cuts for the rich. The Democrats are proposing increasing the tax rates for the rich.

Everyone will have a clear choice in November.
 
how do you think this number will effect the election?

His wealth will not be an issue.... however, how he earned his wealth will be his Waterloo.

Unfortunately, Romney did not earn his wealth as creator of any product or service, a builder of great companies or a creator of jobs. He earned his wealth as a commercial version of a house-flipper: buying undervalued assets with other people's money and quickly flipping them for profit. As the number one "wealth creating trick" of Bain Capital was to outsource jobs and most of those jobs were good paying middle management and technical jobs (no point outsourcing minimum wage jobs), it makes the net-net, that his wealth was created by taking from the middle class. In essence, he will be the personification of a 1%er who raped the 99%. Its a very bad year to be running with his background.

Gingrich only scratched the surface of this issue thus far, and the rest of the right shut him up as an attack on capitalism. They will learn to wish they let this play out now as it will be really ugly and insurmountable later.
 
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