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Gingrich nails CNN at Presidential Debate

ARealConservative said:
although I am aware it has taken on that connotation, the lyrics do not speak to that end, and the person that wrote the song did not intend for such a double meaning to be interpreted. in fact, the person that penned it is on record stating it was a reflection of young black youths playing basketball at these facilities.
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Just looked that up. Interesting, thanks.

Well, NOW it's about anonymous gay sex because everyone thinks it is.
 
I think this is all garbage that distracts from the real issues. If we are looking for a "perfect" candidate we will never find one.

Let's be honest for a second, the majority of Americans don't really care about this it was just an opportunity to "sling mud" at an opponent.
 
Paratrooper said:
I think this is all garbage that distracts from the real issues. If we are looking for a "perfect" candidate we will never find one.

Let's be honest for a second, the majority of Americans don't really care about this it was just an opportunity to "sling mud" at an opponent.
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sadly, I disagree.

the majority of us that are politically connected (meaning we pay attention all the time, not just during presidential election time) doesn't care, but that is a huge minority

the majority of American's soak this stuff up. Finally, politics match their craving for reality television.
 
ARealConservative said:
sadly, I disagree.

the majority of us that are politically connected (meaning we pay attention all the time, not just during presidential election time) doesn't care, but that is a huge minority

the majority of American's soak this stuff up. Finally, politics match their craving for reality television.
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That said, we could probably take the Republicans and put them on Survivor and the winner goes against Obama... talk about ratings. :mrgreen:
 
It was an effective counter for that night. To deny that is humorous. Indeed, Newt is a moral Judas, but the man knows how to work the crowd. I also enjoy Newt's continued attacks against the media. It may not work on the general population, but it is amusing to watch them reflect upon it in horror later on in the next program. The television media loves a moment to reflect upon itself and its glories, and when someone pushes back, the collective reaction is to defend their honor and insist we should all bow our heads in view of their alter of truth.
 
joko104 said:
The popularity of Bill Clinton shows that voters don't care about this now.

It might actually help him in a weird way. Almost everyone who had been divorced is familiar with their ex trying to trash their reputation and, particularly upper income Republicans, also well familiar with an ex trying to dig as deeply into their pockets as possible - with the divorce fight between her and Gingrich being over her wanting more money from him. Now she is damn certain she doesn't want that other woman to get her spot as First Lady if Gingrich were to win - yet she is the bimbo home wrecker herself so it is extreme hypocrisy by her. Another woman ultimately beat her out at her own game. Oh boo hoo.

In short, alot of people, particularly men, might have a lot of empathy with him over an ex wife who, year after year, keeps trashing him like some reputation-damaging stalker who just won't get on with her life.
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I don't think many people have a problem with his marriage, affairs and all that. The problem is with his blatant hypocrisy and the way he pretends to be above going below the belt when that's been his specialty for quite a while. It's pretty sickening to me, to be honest.
 
liblady said:
disagree....he came off sounding angry, bitter and defensive. what an a-hole. i hope he's the nominee. i am also surprised that his holier-than-thou attitude wasn't challenged.
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But coming from you, that means he shined like a bright light in an otherwise dim setting. I agreed with a RCP article this morning that said it was reminiscent of Reagan's line of "I paid for this microphone". And since Obama has decided he's running against Congress... Newt's decided he's going to run against the media and get through the primary. After all, the media is the inbred cousin of the DNC.
 
liblady said:
disagree....he came off sounding angry, bitter and defensive. what an a-hole. i hope he's the nominee. i am also surprised that his holier-than-thou attitude wasn't challenged.
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The crowd was cheering though!

(Oh, wait, GOP debate crowds also cheer the death of those with no health insurance and boos gay soldiers.)
 
Paratrooper said:
I think this is all garbage that distracts from the real issues. If we are looking for a "perfect" candidate we will never find one.

Let's be honest for a second, the majority of Americans don't really care about this it was just an opportunity to "sling mud" at an opponent.
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I'll bet plenty of Americans care.

It goes to the ability to trust him.
 
cpwill said:
No.

Moral Failure by Newt. Failure, for example, to be able to distinguish between asking a candidate about a major issue that has strong salience in a key demographic (not despicable) and the actual act of serial adultery itself (which is despicable). Newt was acting "outraged" in order to try to force the discussion off the topic, and the audience was stupid enough to lap it up.

Newt has had some awesome performances in this debate season. His description of conservatism is at times unparalleled. But this? This wasn't it.
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Well, you have to understand that Newt has asked forgiveness from God, he has confessed his wrong doings. His moral shortness is in his past, leave to to he and God.
 
Amigo said:
Well, you have to understand that Newt has asked forgiveness from God, he has confessed his wrong doings. His moral shortness is in his past, leave to to he and God.
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You defending Clinton again?
 
Amigo said:
Well, you have to understand that Newt has asked forgiveness from God, he has confessed his wrong doings. His moral shortness is in his past, leave to to he and God.
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Right. He also said he wouldn't go negative. :2rofll:
 
Amigo said:
Well, you have to understand that Newt has asked forgiveness from God, he has confessed his wrong doings. His moral shortness is in his past, leave to to he and God.
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I understand he is a politician and will say pretty much anything to get votes. He isn't politically stupid.
 
Luckily Newt will NEVER be president.

Anyone want to take bets?
The bet can be monetary or avatar/sig related.

I already did this with Cain and won. :D
 
AdamT said:
Newt's response was entirely predictable -- he's been doing it throughout the debates. If he gets a question that he doesn't like his reaction is to attack the press. Obviously that feeds into the right's whole "lamestream media" narrative, to which Newt is perfectly attuned. It plays well to the base. Otherwise ... not so much.

Generally I would say that someone's personal life is off limits, but where, as here, the person has made a career of attacking others for the same conduct that he's accused of, it is absolutely fair game. Here's a blast from the past:
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He had to know the question was coming so he fed red meat to the base who distrusts the media in general. The rant might put him over the top tomorrow.
 
American said:
Until they start asking Democrats these kinds of questions on a regular basis, the Reps should be outraged.
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yes. but we should be upset that they aren't asking Democrats, not that they are asking Republicans.
 
Amigo said:
Well, you have to understand that Newt has asked forgiveness from God, he has confessed his wrong doings.
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that process involves repentance and humility. I'm afraid that, watching that response by Newt, I don't see either of those on display.
 
cpwill said:
that process involves repentance and humility. I'm afraid that, watching that response by Newt, I don't see either of those on display.
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So one one has repentance and humility, one must always show repentance and humility else it is fake? Never again may one get angry or show pride for the rest of their life?
 
Top Cat said:
Many of you righties seem to be selling Obama short as a debater. He can hold his own rather well.
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:shrug: I'd like to see how much he's learned.

Sadly: whoever he's in a debate with I think it's obvious they're going to be asked stupid questions like 'what's your favorite color' and 'did you and your wife fight in the white house yet?' and random stupid questions from "youtube" and "twitter" like that's worth anything.

It's not the individuals running for office - it's the 'leaders' of the circus that's laughable as a 'presidential debate'
 
American said:
Says the guppy that follows Obama's feigned leadership.
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Ha ha. How exactly is that? I'm not the one defending Obama here. You righties are whining that Newt is being treated unfairly. And for something he led the crucifixion of BC for...you can't make this **** up,
 
Amigo said:
Well, you have to understand that Newt has asked forgiveness from God, he has confessed his wrong doings. His moral shortness is in his past, leave to to he and God.
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Sorry, God was too busy working for Tim Tebow.
 
Ockham said:
So one one has repentance and humility, one must always show repentance and humility else it is fake?
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humility certainly. repentance for the act absolutely. Newt's response indicates he hasn't repented of a dang thing - and using that instead like a foil to try to dodge criticism. What was his original claim? "I Cheated On My Wife Because I Loved My Country So Much"? that's not the voice of a man who has accepted his need for salvation - that's the voice of a brilliant man who is brilliantly self-righteous and self-excusing.

I get that conservatives like to see the liberal media 'get one'. I enjoyed the hell out of Newt's bombardments earlier in the debates... when he was correct to do so. Here, however, he is not, and conservatives are making a mistake if we trade a willingness to stand by our values for a willingness to see a CNN anchor get embarrassed.

Never again may one get angry or show pride for the rest of their life?
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with regards to the topic at hand, only if one wishes to be in the wrong.
 
cpwill said:
humility certainly. repentance for the act absolutely. Newt's response indicates he hasn't repented of a dang thing - and using that instead like a foil to try to dodge criticism. What was his original claim? "I Cheated On My Wife Because I Loved My Country So Much"? that's not the voice of a man who has accepted his need for salvation - that's the voice of a brilliant man who is brilliantly self-righteous and self-excusing.

I get that conservatives like to see the liberal media 'get one'. I enjoyed the hell out of Newt's bombardments earlier in the debates... when he was correct to do so. Here, however, he is not, and conservatives are making a mistake if we trade a willingness to stand by our values for a willingness to see a CNN anchor get embarrassed.



with regards to the topic at hand, only if one wishes to be in the wrong.
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So I take it you have a real issue with Newt and your ability to view objectively in the remotest sense no longer is functioning.
 
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