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Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

FluffyNinja said:
I suppose then, according to you and Dr. Phil, we should be concerned that Obama may be doing lines of cocaine in the Whitehouse in his off time? :shrug:
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That would probably be a legitimate question if Obama had been a heavy coke user well into his 40s and 50s.
 
AdamT said:
That would probably be a legitimate question if Obama had been a heavy coke user well into his 40s and 50s.
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Well, he admitted to trying cocaine once, so according to the line of reasoning above, what's to stop him from trying it again? Or, hell, from trying anything for that matter? Past behavior...........right? :roll:

Following with this same line of reasoning, perhaps we should also be concerned that Obama may still be consorting with known Communist Revolutionaries, and dare we forget that he once attended a Madrasa......wow, who knows what scary behaviors and beliefs could be resurfacing in the Whitehouse.....right under our noses! :roll:

You guys kill me. :lol:
 
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FluffyNinja said:
I suppose then, according to you and Dr. Phil, we should be concerned that Obama may be doing lines of cocaine in the Whitehouse in his off time? :shrug:
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Conservatives have a history of sidestepping issues they are unwilling/unable to debate by shifting the topic - all usually based on inflamatory suppositions (cocaine user, consorting with known Communist Revolutionaries, etc.).

If social conservatives were really looking for a candidate who appears "squeeky clean," why aren't they flocking to Santorum?

If Obama had a 2nd wife who accused him of any wrongdoing, "FluffyNinja" would only be too glad to accept that as gospel, BUT when its Newt's 2nd wife - well, its time to change the topic!

How can the GOP bill themselves as the party of "family values" and then support a candidate like Gingrich - a man whose personal life repudiates everything they supposedly stand for?

When one compares Newt Gingrich and Barrack Obama on the issue of "family values" based on actions, not words - its no contest!
 
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jgarden47 said:
Conservatives have a history of sidestepping issues they are unwilling/unable to debate by creating a diversion to shift the topic away - all usually based on unsubstantiated accusations.

If social conservatives were really looking for a candidate who appears "squeeky clean," why aren't they flocking to Santorum?

How can the GOP want to bill themselves as the "family values" party and then support a candidate like Gingrich - a man whose personal life repudiates everything they stand for?

When one compares Newt Gingrich and Barrack Obama on the issue of "family values," its no contest!
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Get over yourself already. There are no "squeaky clean" candidates.......and there's not been a "squeaky clean" president, at least in modern history. When will we ever be able to get past this crap and look at things that matter in a candidate, like governmental experience, record of fiscal responsibility, voting record, congressional influence, etc.

BTW, I am obviously a conservative, but can honestly say that I liked Clinton and had no real problem with his qualifications, nor his overall performance as Chief Administrator. Can you drop the gauntlets (and blinders) and say the same about any Conservative leaders from our recent past? Or perhaps, like most on the Left, you simply lack the knowledge-base and rely soley on the drive-by media version of news and history. :shrug:
 
cpwill said:
the old saw has truth - if someone is willing to cheat on someone else with you, then they will be willing to cheat on you with someone else.

makes you wonder who Gingrich is diddling now.
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Dude if you want to run Jesus on the Rep side, you're going to get Obama again. You afraid he'll screw someone on the oval office desk?

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Now with the economy improving and the candidates "savaging" each other in the Republican primaries, conservatives like "FluffyNinja" want to declare a truce so that we can "look at things that matter in a candidate, like governmental experience, record of fiscal responsibility, voting record, congressional influence, etc."

Sounds reasonable BUT at the same time they reserve the right to continue accusing Obama of "doing lines of cocaine in the White House in his off time" and "may still be consorting with known Communist Revolutionaries ..."

The problem is that Democrats have become "battle hardened" after being subjected to 3 years of this kind of unrelenting "take no prisoners" political and personal attacks against Barrack Obama.

With the recent actions of the Republicans/Tea Party in the House still fresh in their memories, "liberals" have little reason to trust that their conservative counterparts are genuinely interested in civil discourse.

If conservatives can rationalize supporting a presidential candidate like Newt Gingrich whose personal life contradicts everything they espouse, they can rationalize anything!
 
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nota bene said:
That's why Marianne Gingrich's sitting in judgment is so funny. Who's she to judge anybody's morality when she herself is a homewrecker?
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who says that I'm taking Marianne's judgement? I'm critiquing Newts judgement.

I don't wonder who Gingrich is diddling now. He says that he is remorseful, has repented, and has changed
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Actions > Words

I don't like him (and had an interesting lunch discussion with a friend about whether he's borderline manic-depressive), but he says that he has changed. His children seem to think so.
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then he should start demonstrating in public what he has apparently shown them.
 
Most reasonable person, who had accumulated as much political and personal baggage as Gingrich, would choose not be subject themselves and their families to the kind of intense scrutiny of a gruelling presidential campaign.

Then again, most reasonable people would never acquire Newt's political and personal baggage in the 1st place.
 
Ockham said:
This is why, in the other thread, you can't see the problem with the 1st question. Not only was I right... I was VERY right.
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:shrug: right about what - that you think the question was out of line and I don't? that you are enamored of critiquing CNN and therefore willing to overlook Gingrich's actions?

Gingrich started as an embarrassing addition to this campaign by giving Democrats the gift of a major Republican critiquing the Ryan Plan. Then he turned into an excellent addition to the campaign by serving in the debates to remind all the other candidates of the things they held in common. Then he started to become popular and so Romney spent alot of money reminding voters that his many marriage infidelities are matched by his many ideological infidelities. Then Newt got pissed, and turned into a nuclear nightmare, giving Democrats the further gift of giving their anti-Republican narrative in 2012 credibility by parroting the OWS crowd rhetoric. No one in the race has better enunciated conservatism. No one in the race has better described what conservatism stands for. And no one in the race has done the conservative cause more damage.
 
American said:
Dude if you want to run Jesus on the Rep side, you're going to get Obama again. You afraid he'll screw someone on the oval office desk?
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no, i worry we are going to find out he's been cheating on Callista.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: right about what - that you think the question was out of line and I don't? that you are enamored of critiquing CNN and therefore willing to overlook Gingrich's actions?

Gingrich started as an embarrassing addition to this campaign by giving Democrats the gift of a major Republican critiquing the Ryan Plan. Then he turned into an excellent addition to the campaign by serving in the debates to remind all the other candidates of the things they held in common. Then he started to become popular and so Romney spent alot of money reminding voters that his many marriage infidelities are matched by his many ideological infidelities. Then Newt got pissed, and turned into a nuclear nightmare, giving Democrats the further gift of giving their anti-Republican narrative in 2012 credibility by parroting the OWS crowd rhetoric. No one in the race has better enunciated conservatism. No one in the race has better described what conservatism stands for. And no one in the race has done the conservative cause more damage.
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Just admit you want payback to Newt for what you see as his moral failings...
 
FluffyNinja said:
Well, he admitted to trying cocaine once, so according to the line of reasoning above, what's to stop him from trying it again? Or, hell, from trying anything for that matter? Past behavior...........right? :roll:

Following with this same line of reasoning, perhaps we should also be concerned that Obama may still be consorting with known Communist Revolutionaries, and dare we forget that he once attended a Madrasa......wow, who knows what scary behaviors and beliefs could be resurfacing in the Whitehouse.....right under our noses! :roll:

You guys kill me. :lol:
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Let me know when someone comes forward to say that Obama was still tooting well into his 40's. :roll:
 
jgarden47 said:
- divorced 1st wife as she was being treated for cancer

- divorced 2nd wife just months after she was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis

- conducted a 6 year affair with wife 3, while still married to wife 2

- condemned President Bill Clinton for his lack of "moral leadership" during the Lewinsky Affair while in the midst of his 2nd affair

- wanted an "open" marriage - "Callista (wife 3) doesn't care what I do,"

- charged with 84 ethics offenses while serving as Speaker of the House

- sanctioned by a vote of 395–28 in the House and fined $300 000

- 1st Speaker in the Congress to be sanctioned

The question remains as to why a presidential candidate with this kind of personal and political "baggage" is even on the GOP primary ballot and why would anyone endorse him?

List of Newt Gingrich endorsements

Gingrich has received endorsements from:
United States House of Representatives Representative Joe Barton of Texas, Chairman Emeritus of the House Energy and Commerce Committee[116]
Representative Michael Burgess of Texas[117]
Representative Phil Gingrey of Georgia[117]
Representative Jack Kingston of Georgia[118]
Representative Tom Price of Georgia[119]
Representative Austin Scott of Georgia[120]
Representative Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia[121]
Representative Andy Harris of Maryland[122]
Representative Trent Franks of Arizona[123]
Representative David Rivera of Florida[124]
Governors and State Constitutional officers Governor Rick Perry of Texas[115]
Governor Nathan Deal of Georgia[125]
Georgia Insurance Commissioner Ralph Hudgens[126]
Public Service Commissioner Stan Wise[126]
Public Service Commissioner Lauren “Bubba” McDonald[126]
Former officeholders Former Senator Robert C. Smith of New Hampshire[127]
Former Senator and Governor Zell Miller of Georgia [128]
Former Representative Fred Grandy of Iowa[129]
Former Representative Greg Ganske of Iowa[130]
Former Representative J. C. Watts of Oklahoma[131]
Former Representative John Napier of South Carolina[132]
Former Representative, former Attorney General Bill McCollum of Florida[133]
Former Representative Gary Lee of Florida[134]
Former Governor Sonny Perdue of Georgia[125]
Former Lieutenant Governor André Bauer of South Carolina[135]
Former board members and other officials Former member of President Ronald Reagan's Economic Policy Advisory Board Arthur Laffer[136]
Former Director of White House speechwriting for President Ronald Reagan Bently Elliott[137]
Former chief justice of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, partner at the Nexsen Pruet law firm, Billy Wilkins[138]
Former member of the board of visitors at the Medical University of South Carolina Debra Wilkins[138]
State Legislators Florida Former Miami Mayor Joe Carollo[134]
Former Orange County Mayor Rich Crotty[134]
Vice Mayor of Bradenton and Bradenton City Councillor Patrick Roff[134]
State Senator Jim Norman (District 112)[134]
State Senator Thad Altman (Dist. 24)[134]
Former State Senator John Grant, Sr. (R-Hillsborough)[134]
State Representative Michael Bileca (Dist.117)[134]
State Representative Gayle Harrell (Dist. 81)[134]
State Representative Deborah Mayfield (Dist. 80)[134]
State Representative Carlos Trujillo (Dist.116)[134]
Former State Representative Kurt Kelley[134]
Former State Representative Monica Rodriguez[134]
Former State Representative Luis Rojas[134]
Brevard County Chair William Tolley[134]
Hillsborough County Chair Sam Rashid[134]
Honorary Brevard County Chair Coy Clark[134]
Duval County Co-Chair Bert Ralston[134]
Pinellas County Co-Chair Dr. Miguel Fana[134]
Jacksonville City Councillor Ray Holt[134]
Brooksville City Councillor Kevin Hohn[134]
Former Chairman of Calhoun County Commission Dan Wyrick[134]
Miami-Dade County Commissioner Xavier Suarez[134]
Palm Beach County Commissioner Steve Abrams[134]
Former Leon County Commissioner Ed Depuy[134]
Gingrich Florida Chair College Republicans Nathan Meloon[134]
Gingrich Florida Chair of Young Republicans Christian Waugh[134]
Georgia State Senator Judson Hill (R-Marietta)[126]
State Representative Sharon Cooper (R-Marietta)[126]
State Representative Joe Wilkinson (R-Sandy Springs) Wilkinson is chairman of the House Ethics Committee and served in the Reagan Administration.[126]
State Representative Harry Geisinger (R-Roswell)[126]
State Representative Sean Jerguson (R-Canton) Jerguson is chairman of the Cherokee County legislative delegation.[126]
State Representative Paulette Braddock (R-Hiram)[126]
State Representative Matt Hatchett (R-Dublin)[126]
Hall County Commissioner Ashley Bell[139]
Hall County Commissioner Craig Lutz[139]
Hall County Commissioner Tom Oliver[139]
Iowa Speaker of the House Kraig Paulsen[140]
House Majority Leader Linda Upmeyer[141]
State Senator James Seymour[142]
State Senator Randy Feenstra[142]
State Senator Shawn Hamerlinck[142]
State Senator David Johnson[142]
Former State Senator Larry McKibben[142]
State Representative, Chairman of the House Appropriations Committee Scott Raecker[143]
State Representative Bob Hager[142]
State Representative Chris Hagenow[142]
State Representative Josh Byrnes[142]
State Representative Linda Upmeyer[142]
State Representative Jeff Kaufman[142]
Former Iowa Republican Party Chairman Ray Hoffman[142]
New Hampshire Speaker of the House William O'Brien (R-Hillsborough)[144]
State Representative William Panek (R-Strafford)[145]
State Representative Sam Cataldo (R-Strafford)[145]
State Representative Greg Sorg (R-Grafton)[146]
State Representative Donald Andolina (R-Strafford)[146]
State Representative J.C. Daugherty[146]
State Representative Robert Elliott (R-Rockingham)[146]
State Representative Gregory Hill (R-Merrimack)[146]
State Representative Frank Kotowski (R-Merrimack)[146]
State Representative Kathleen Lauer-Rago (R-Merrimack)[146]
State Representative Joseph Pitre (R-Strafford)[146]
State Representative Frank Sapareto (R-Rockingham)[146]
State Representative Ken Sheffert (R-Rockingham)[146]
State Representative Laurie Pettengill (R-Carroll)[146]
State Representative Glen Hill[146]
State Representative Don McClarren (R-Hillsborough)[146]
State Representative Joe Osgood[146]
State Representative Brandon Giuda (R-Merrimack)[146]
Former New Hampshire Republican Party Chairman Jack Kimball[147]
South Carolina Speaker of the House Bobby Harrell[148]
House Majority Leader Kenny Bingham[149]
State Representative Peter McCoy (Dist. 115)[150]
Academics and commentators Hoover Institution economist and columnist Thomas Sowell[151]
US Armed Forces Retired United States Army Colonel Michael D. Steele[152]
Newspapers New Hampshire Union Leader[153]
Celebrities, political activists, and commentators Allen Olsen, Columbia Tea Party[154]
Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips[155]
Des Moines Tea Party founder Charlie Gruschow aka "Tea Party Charlie"[156]
Conservative Club of Des Moines and Des Moines Conservative Breakfast Club founder Darell Kearney[157]
Carl Paladino, 2010 New York gubernatorial Republican nominee and conservative activist[158]
Former Shreveport Mayoral and Caddo Parish Commissioner candidate, Tea Party and Young Conservative Activist and Pastor Parker G. Ward of Shreveport, Louisiana[159]
Former radio host and Republican strategist, son of former President Ronald Reagan, Michael Reagan[136]
Iowa radio talk-show host Steve Deace[160]
Former Iowa director for Herman Cain's presidential campaign Larry Tuel[161]
South Carolina Young Republicans liaison, daughter of Lee Atwater, Republican strategist and former Republican National Committee chairman during the administration of former President George H. W. Bush, Sally Atwater[150]
Christian researcher George Barna[162]
Retired founder of the American Family Association Don Wildmon[162]
Pastor Jim Garlow of Skyline Church in Southern California[162]
Todd Palin, Husband of Sarah Palin and former First Spouse of Alaska [163]
Tim LaHaye, author of eschatological fiction

most recent endorsement: Governor of Texas Rick Perry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gi...campaign,_2012
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Wow. Gingrich scored the endorsements of the Vice Mayor of Bradenton, a former commissioner of Leon County, the guy that played Gopher on the Love Boat, several former Florida legislators and Todd Palin. With the endorsements of this rather impressive-less list of 4th and 5th tier politicians and other people no one ever heard of or cared about, I would say Newt is an unstoppable machine.

Unfortunately, he lacks the moral character and personal integrity to be president, and never will be.
 
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upsideguy said:
Wow. Gingrich scored the endorsements of the Vice Mayor of Bradenton, a former commissioner of Leon County, the guy that played Gopher on the Love Boat, several former Florida legislators and Todd Palin. With the endorsements of this rather impressive-less list of 4th and 5th tier politicians and other people no one ever heard of or cared about, I would say Newt is an unstoppable machine.

Unfortunately, he lacks the moral character and personal integrity to be president, and never will be.
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Yes, Newt is human with human imperfections. But I believe he possesses more decency and morals than the entire democrat party combined....​
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Let me know when someone comes forward to say that Obama was still tooting well into his 40's. :roll:
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Hey now, I wasn't the one who made the claim that "past behavior is an excellent indicator of future performance"......that came from someone on your side dude. :lol:
 
Justice For All said:
Ouch that one is gonna hurt his campaign big time but it's pretty much true. The guy preaches morals but was willing to impeach Clinton over his affair while he was doing the same exact thing. What a two face.
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Yes but you see hardcore righties don't acknowledge that he's a family values guy...hilarious.

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FluffyNinja said:
Well, he admitted to trying cocaine once, so according to the line of reasoning above, what's to stop him from trying it again? Or, hell, from trying anything for that matter? Past behavior...........right? :roll:

Following with this same line of reasoning, perhaps we should also be concerned that Obama may still be consorting with known Communist Revolutionaries, and dare we forget that he once attended a Madrasa......wow, who knows what scary behaviors and beliefs could be resurfacing in the Whitehouse.....right under our noses! :roll:

You guys kill me. :lol:
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The scariest thing about Obama is not what he did before becoming President but after.....
 
ric27 said:
Yes, Newt is human with human imperfections. But I believe he possesses more decency and morals than the entire democrat party combined....​
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Me thinks you view the world through your Very Conservative issued rosy glasses.

Sorry, but its a bit disingenuous to suggest that a guy who has been charged with 84 ethics violations (though convicted of one), has two divorces and has conducted at least two affairs outside of his marriage has more decency and morals than, say the guy in the White House, who, at least on paper, has a strong marriage and is a committed family man. Now I can appreciate that you do not like the politics of the Democrats, but don't make such foolish statements as to suggest Newt Gringrich has a moral high ground on all Democrats (or maybe even the moral high ground on anyone not currently serving time.)

Newt Grigrich is, at best, a man of questionable moral character. Though I believe you will find most Americans believe he is a certified slimeball.

Please don't let your moral compass lose its orientation because of your politics.
 
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cpwill said:
no, i worry we are going to find out he's been cheating on Callista.
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Well with Obama, you'll be able to march on toward Utopia. With Newt you get to keep your republic a bit longer. Romney is Obama lite. Santorum probably won't make it. Paul I don't know. Anyone but Romney.
 
Justice For All said:
Ouch that one is gonna hurt his campaign big time but it's pretty much true. The guy preaches morals but was willing to impeach Clinton over his affair while he was doing the same exact thing. What a two face.
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Clinton: Blow jobs and sexually molestation in the Oval office, purgery, other charges of sexual harrassment. Bill Clintons problems were punctauted by actually breaking the law and being accused of breaking the law in his sexual behavior. Newt's was part of his personal relationships. As for the ethics violations, notice whenever you see a story about that it only says that 84 ethics violations were filed against Gingrich leaving people to draw their own conclusions of what that means. If you don't like Newt then you believe he was guilty of all of them. But 83 of the 84 charges were dropped including the most serious of the violations. What happened to Gingrich was a political witch hunt of the highest order because of the power and stature he achieved during the '94 Congressional Republican gains and the Contract with American which at that time resonated with a lot of people. All of that had to be destroyed and the Democrats went about it. Gingrich made things easy for them. He is a typical politician so he was no saint by any stretch. Whenever you walk the line along the letter and spirit of the rules there is room for interpretation and accusation. I am not going to defend him point by point because I am sure he didn't strictly walk the straight and narrow. But the so called ethics violations have been mischaracterized and exagerrated. This article from the Washington Post explains some of it: Washingtonpost.com: Ethics Committee Drops Last of 84 Ethics Charges Against Gingrich.
 
The sick hatred of decency possessing the American extreme-right is exemplified that any of them would chose this poisonous scoundrel against even a dead dog!
 
jambalaya said:
Clinton: Blow jobs and sexually molestation in the Oval office,
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Tosh.O could use some of the DP far-righties on his show... 'molestation'... a comment that is beyond idiotic.

And talk about deflection. Newt is the candidate. He's a lowlife turd, not worthy of the office he now seeks. You can't see it. God help you.
 
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