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Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Given

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[h=1]Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History?[/h]
[h=2]Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Given 20 Votes[/h]


DES MOINES, Iowa --
Caucus night was chaotic in many places, with hundreds of voters, candidates showing up and the throngs of media who followed. The world's eyes were on Iowa. But in the quiet town of Moulton, Appanoose County, a caucus of 53 people may just blow up the results.

Edward True, 28, of Moulton, said he helped count the votes and jotted the results down on a piece of paper to post to his Facebook page. He said when he checked to make sure the Republican Party of Iowa got the count right, he said he was shocked to find they hadn't.


"When Mitt Romney won Iowa by eight votes and I've got a 20-vote discrepancy here, that right there says Rick Santorum won Iowa," True said. "Not Mitt Romney."
True said at his 53-person caucus at the Garrett Memorial Library, Romney received two votes. According to the Iowa Republican Party's website, True's precinct cast 22 votes for Romney."This is huge," True said. "It essentially changes who won."

A spokeswoman with the Iowa Republican Party said True is not a precinct captain and he's not a county chairperson so he has no business talking about election results. She also said the party would not be giving interviews about possible discrepancies until the caucus vote is certified.


KCCI political analyst Dennis Goldford said even if the caucus results are wrong, it's not the end of the world.

This will make Iowa look a little foolish in the eyes of the rest of the country, which already questions the seriousness of the caucuses," Goldford said. But in terms of Santorum's results here, the Caucuses have made him a player in presidential politics and if he should nudge ahead of Gov. Romney for the final certified result that's really not going to make any significant difference at this point."


Read more: Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? - Des Moines News Story - KCCI Des Moines



A 20-vote difference in a 53-person caucus? That seems improbable. I mean, wouldn't someone have noticed that Romney was reported getting 22 votes if he really only got 2 votes?
Not sure how they count their caucus votes in Iowa, but in Maine, the people physically moved to a location to indicate their votes. You'd notice a crowd, instead of 2 people.
 
Re: Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Gi

Usually you have to worry about the zero being added.

1,000,000 oops. I meant 10,000,000. :shock:
 
Re: Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Gi

Usually you have to worry about the zero being added.

1,000,000 oops. I meant 10,000,000. :shock:

I know .... it's a weird typo, if it happened. I mean, you'd NOTICE if your vote count was overstated by 20 votes in a 53 person caucus, wouldn't you??
 
Re: Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Gi

Hmmmm...

Seems reminicent to the Florida (2000) and Ohio (2004) voter recounts. Anybody up for another Supreme Court challenge?

Sarcasm aside, let's wait until the vote is actually certified before getting too worked up over this. Besides, it's only a caucus, not the actual primary vote. So, as political analyst Dennis Goldford said, "even if the caucus results are wrong, it's not the end of the world". But it would certainly put a damper on Romney's momentum heading into New Hampshire.
 
Re: Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Gi

From what I have read, the vote of the people in Iowa is not binding on the delegates.

In other words, delegates from Iowa are free to vote for Rick Perry or even Michele Bachmann at the convention.
 
Re: Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Gi

Hmmmm...

Seems reminicent to the Florida (2000) and Ohio (2004) voter recounts. Anybody up for another Supreme Court challenge?

Sarcasm aside, let's wait until the vote is actually certified before getting too worked up over this. Besides, it's only a caucus, not the actual primary vote. So, as political analyst Dennis Goldford said, "even if the caucus results are wrong, it's not the end of the world". But it would certainly put a damper on Romney's momentum heading into New Hampshire.


God ... NO! lol ...

ya, good point on waiting for certification.
 
Re: Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Gi

From what I have read, the vote of the people in Iowa is not binding on the delegates.

In other words, delegates from Iowa are free to vote for Rick Perry or even Michele Bachmann at the convention.


I've read that too .... weird, huh?
 
Re: Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Gi

hmm interesting, of course they try to cover it up and won't let the kid tell everybody.
 
Re: Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Gi

I'd wait until the certification. It's at least as likely that Mr. True wrote down the wrong number, not the other way around.
 
Re: Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Gi

I was watching Appanoose County fairly closely late Tuesday because it was one of the few counties where Santorum was winning that hadn't reported 100% by about midnight.

There was a lot of oddity in the caucus tallying. Like Santorum continuously winding up on top by a tiny margin despite Romney having more counties (and larger counties) remaining to report.

Not sure I buy this particular story though.
 
Re: Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Gi

I'd wait until the certification. It's at least as likely that Mr. True wrote down the wrong number, not the other way around.

Yes, definitely need to wait for the certification, but I don't know .... 2 vs 22 in a caucus of 53? Something's funky. Maybe Mr. True's story is funky. Who knows.
 
Re: Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Gi

Yes, definitely need to wait for the certification, but I don't know .... 2 vs 22 in a caucus of 53? Something's funky. Maybe Mr. True's story is funky. Who knows.

I suspect Mr. True wrote down the wrong figure. It is unlikely that Mitt Romney received < 4% of the vote in the Caucus. That's what he would have received had Mr. True's figure of "2" been correct. If the vote were incorrect, one could expect many others who were involved in that Caucus to be raising the issue, too. That hasn't happened.
 
Re: Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Gi

I suspect Mr. True wrote down the wrong figure. It is unlikely that Mitt Romney received < 4% of the vote in the Caucus. That's what he would have received had Mr. True's figure of "2" been correct. If the vote were incorrect, one could expect many others who were involved in that Caucus to be raising the issue, too. That hasn't happened.

I don't know how they count their votes in the Iowa caucuses, but in the Maine caucuses, we physically went to an area of the room and gathered with other supporters of the candidate we were voting for. You'd think they'd notice the difference between two people and twenty-two people in a caucus of 53 total.
 
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