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Possible GOP Veep Choices?

AdamT said:
You inserted yourself into the conversation. :shrug:

And no, Rubio is not as qualified as Obama was. He has no real-world experience and he can't approach Obama's academic credentials.
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the academic credentials we don't know much about? I guess you will be voting for Mitt: Romney's academic credentials are much higher than Obamas

Obama didn't even make basic honors at Columbia, Romney was top of his class at stanford, top of his class at BYU top of his class at Harvard B school and near top of his class at HLS.

what real world experience did Obama have-a lecturer in an academic environment who never really practiced law, and a "community organizer"

color me underwhelmed
 
Assuming Romney gets beat up in the primaries for being a liberal but still squeaks out a win, what conservative would agree to be his running mate?
 
Romney - Huntsman might make me think about casting a GOP vote - especially if Biden is Obama's VP. Biden's as useless as teats on a boar.
 
johnny_rebson said:
Assuming Romney gets beat up in the primaries for being a liberal but still squeaks out a win, what conservative would agree to be his running mate?
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Sidestepping to Romney now? You don't want to defend your boy Rubio's stellar run through Tarkio College, Santa Fe Community College, UF, and the University of Miami?

As far as Obama goes, he can be proud of the fact that he was President of the Harvard Law Review and that he graduated magna cum laude. Did Mitt graduate magna? Oh no, that's right, he was just cum laude.
 
AdamT said:
Sidestepping to Romney now? You don't want to defend your boy Rubio's stellar run through Tarkio College, Santa Fe Community College, UF, and the University of Miami?
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Rubio is not my guy, but up until now I always wondered why Tarkio College no longer exists.
 
AdamT said:
As far as Obama goes, he can be proud of the fact that he was President of the Harvard Law Review and that he graduated magna cum laude. Did Mitt graduate magna? Oh no, that's right, he was just cum laude.
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Yeah, but Romney was getting a business school degree concurrently. Romney doesn't have anything comparable to being a professor at U of Chicago Law School. That's the 5th ranked law school in the country. That's a huge deal. Much bigger deal than graduating at the top of his class from Harvard Law. Folks like Richard Posner, often considered to be the greatest living legal mind, are professors at U Chicago Law.

But, IMO it isn't some deal where we just weigh academic credentials and the best one is going to be the best president. In my view it is more like they need to clear a certain academic minimum bar that proves that they are at the absolute minimum in the top say 1% of the country for intelligence. Say maybe that they should have completed a graduate program of some kind in one of the top 5 schools or so. We can't have this "well maybe they's a gonna be better at presidentin than the was at book larnin" gamble going on. They need to be proven.

Romney undeniably clears that bar. Once you clear that bar, I don't think you get many points for further academic accomplishments.
 
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teamosil said:
Yeah, but Romney was getting a business school degree concurrently. Romney doesn't have anything comparable to being a professor at U of Chicago Law School. That's the 5th ranked law school in the country. That's a huge deal. Much bigger deal than graduating at the top of his class from Harvard Law. Folks like Richard Posner, often considered to be the greatest living legal mind, are professors at U Chicago Law.

But, IMO it isn't some deal where we just weigh academic credentials and the best one is going to be the best president. Romney is undeniably in the acceptable range for a president academically.
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I was just yankin' TD's chain re: Romney. He has sterling academic credentials. Rubio ... meh. Nothing to be ashamed of, but nothing to write home about either.

As far as Obama goes, it's a pretty big accomplishment to graduate magna while serving as president of the law review. That's practically a full time job that takes a lot of hours away from study time.
 
AdamT said:
I was just yankin' TD's chain re: Romney. He has sterling academic credentials. Rubio ... meh. Nothing to be ashamed of, but nothing to write home about either.
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Yeah, agreed. Biden is in about the same boat as Rubio. Got a law degree, but from a mid level school.

AdamT said:
As far as Obama goes, it's a pretty big accomplishment to graduate magna while serving as president of the law review. That's practically a full time job that takes a lot of hours away from study time.
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Yeah no doubt.
 
Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
What about after the election? That would be my concern with such a young and inexperienced VP in these volatile Congressional times.
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After the election, he attends state funerals and votes yes or no in the Senate now and then.

Which, I might add, would give him as much experience as our current executive had the day he took office.
 
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Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
What about after the election? That would be my concern with such a young and inexperienced VP in these volatile Congressional times.
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I think Rubio is okay as conservatives go, but it's funny to me that he's being embraced by Tea Party types. The guy is a politician, and a political climber, through and through. He's never had a real job outside of politics.
 
teamosil said:
I'm not really sure what Romney will need in a VP. I've thought about it a lot, but I keep coming down different. On one hand, a more moderate VP would help him pick up the middle. On the other hand, he's already in danger of getting a very low turnout from the conservative base, so maybe he needs a right winger to get them amped up. A moderate VP further alienates the right, a right wing VP alienates the moderates. I'm not sure which crowd he gains more from playing to. Any thoughts?

Now, if it were to be Santorum, he'd need a moderate VP for sure. Huntsman or somebody. Although I doubt Huntsman would be willing to be on a ticket with him.
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If I was Romney, I am thinking Rubio would be my first choice as things stand now. Popular in Florida, which he has to carry, and I think he plays well to the conservative base.
 
Redress said:
If I was Romney, I am thinking Rubio would be my first choice as things stand now. Popular in Florida, which he has to carry, and I think he plays well to the conservative base.
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True. And he's not so offensive to moderates that he'll drive them away. Romney can appeal to the moderates without Rubio's presence on the ticket making that impossible while Rubio can appeal to the right wingers... That might make sense. Although, I have to admit, all I know about Rubio is from the pundits. I haven't heard him in a debate or anything. Anybody know of a clip anywhere of him debating somebody?
 
AdamT said:
Maybe not....

PPPoll: Rubio approval rating high in Florida but he would not help as VP | Florida politics blog: The Buzz | Tampa Bay Times
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Couple of things. One, he hasn't campaigned there as the veep candidate yet, which would help sway the "wouldn't matter" respondents, and B) if he were on the ticket, Romney would have immediate access to Florida political apparatus.

Then there's this poll, published 11/1/11:


Without Rubio in the mix, Mitt Romney runs neck-and-neck with Obama at 42 percent; Obama would lead Herman Cain 42 percent to 39 percent, and beat Rick Perry 46 percent to 34 percent, the poll showed.

With Rubio on the ticket, however, a Republican presidential nominee would best Obama 46–41, with 12 percent undecided and 2 percent voting for an independent candidate

Read more: Marco Rubio | Hillary Clinton | Vice Presidential Candidates | The Daily Caller
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This item also looks at how dropping Joe for Hillary would help BO. That's an interesting idea.
 
Redress said:
Christie has said he is not interested, Gingrich isn't that stupid.
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of all the intelligent things Gingrich has said in the Debates and then he mentioned the dreaded Palin as a running mate and he totally lost all my support.
 
Medleyrelay said:
of all the intelligent things Gingrich has said in the Debates and then he mentioned the dreaded Palin as a running mate and he totally lost all my support.
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So you once thought Gingrich is intelligent but have now changed your mind?
 
Redress said:
Ummmm...yeah. So a poll from over a year from the election(it came out in October) really means a whole **** of a lot...
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The poll looks at whether Rubio helps Romney in Florida. Has anything changed regarding Rubio that would explain a major shift? Not that I can think of.
 
Redress said:
It really depends on who the nominee is. However, first impression would be Mitch Daniels, Bobby Jindal and John Kasich, Marco Rubio. I have heard a couple people mention Fred Smith, CEO of FedEx as a possible, but I am not sure if that was serious.
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NO WAY on Kasich.
 
LuckyDan said:
Couple of things. One, he hasn't campaigned there as the veep candidate yet, which would help sway the "wouldn't matter" respondents, and B) if he were on the ticket, Romney would have immediate access to Florida political apparatus.

Then there's this poll, published 11/1/11:




This item also looks at how dropping Joe for Hillary would help BO. That's an interesting idea.
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That's interesting, but it looks like they polled on a generic Republican candidate + Rubio, and generics generally do better than specific candidates.
 
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