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Are you going support a liberal in 2012?

Seriously, where the hell is doright getting this idea that supporting free trade makes you a liberal. A NEO-liberal, perhaps...
 
Spend some time reading the reports on this web page get back to me in a week or two I already have spent weeks going through it.

U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

Then spend some time a few days should be good learning about the diffrent styles of economics there are and how they each work here.

Online Library of Liberty

I have spent a lot of time on each of these there good sources for info


I have to admit while I was saying ya ya ya about a lot of the theories behind Liberalism until I started piecing together the last 40 years of what I have witnessed first hand in my life.
Especially the last 20 years being led by Keynesian economics then I had to say WAIT a minute this isn't what I want this is why were in the mess we are in NOW.
So they are very good at painting a very rosy picture to all of it. It was a real eye opener for me.

That's when I got mad and started going off about Liberalism in any way shape or form, do some studying on the subject.
 
Doright said:
Spend some time reading the reports on this web page get back to me in a week or two I already have spent weeks going through it.

U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

Then spend some time a few days should be good learning about the diffrent styles of economics there are and how they each work here.

Online Library of Liberty

I have spent a lot of time on each of these there good sources for info


I have to admit while I was saying ya ya ya about a lot of the theories behind Liberalism until I started piecing together the last 40 years of what I have witnessed first hand in my life.
Especially the last 20 years being led by Keynesian economics then I had to say WAIT a minute this isn't what I want this is why were in the mess we are in NOW.
So they are very good at painting a very rosy picture to all of it. It was a real eye opener for me.

That's when I got mad and started going off about Liberalism in any way shape or form, do some studying on the subject.
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Gotcha. So you were sold a bill of goods that has made you hate the word liberalism so therefore you went to war with the word, twisting and contorting it to mean everything you hate. Therefore you find something you hate and bring out your rubber stamp and mark it liberal. You can go on and on about how you THINK free trade is liberal policy but the facts remain that its the liberals in our government that are trying to abolish free trade and go back to fair trade status. These are the facts and they are indisputable.
 
rosie1 said:
Doright, PowerRob is right. Most Liberals support things like tariffs & buy American, not shipping jobs overseas. That is not free trade. You spent a lot of time looking up misinformation. That's sort of like when my deceased mother-in-law used to find the "smoking is harmless to your health" studies.

Now that's not to say an occasional liberal doesn't go against the grain and support something non-lib.
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you guys just haven't done enough research, obv
 
I wish there was a real liberal in the election that I could support.
 
Since none of the conservatives fit my positions on issues as closely as liberals, I will probably be voting liberal.
 
Doright said:
The Heart of the matter is Economics and Liberals all support Free trade

So can any one tell me wich candidate who is NOT a Liberal?
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Unfortunately, we don't have any liberals running for president this year.
 
Doright said:
The Heart of the matter is Economics and Liberals all support Free trade

So can any one tell me wich candidate who is NOT a Liberal?
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Technically Liberal means change.

Technically Conservative means status quo.

So technically a Conservative is for Free Trade, so you'd want to technically support a "liberal". lol. Technically speaking.
 
johnny_rebson said:
No.

I will not support liberal politicians like Barack Obama.

I will not support liberal politicians like Mitt Romney.

If Romney is the GOP nominee, I'll be staying home in November.
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You're not the first Conservative I've heard say that. That's good news for Obama. :thumbs:
 
coolwalker said:
If I die and come back as one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No worries, G-d has a "special" plan for Conservatives. For example, my dog was a Conservative in his former life.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
No worries, G-d has a "special" plan for Conservatives. For example, my dog was a Conservative in his former life.
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Cool... I'll get to lick my junk and not get stared at in my next life.
 
poweRob said:
Rocky Anderson
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The fact that I have never heard of the guy is a pretty good indication he doesn't stand a chance, but I will look him up.

Impressive record!!! Maybe he can get a strong national campaign put together by 2016! Hope so!
 
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winston53660 said:
TY for informing me about this guy. Seems interesting
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Was mayor of Salt Lake City. Just started his own party called the Justice Party and is trying now to gain ballot access. If you want to participate contact the Justice Party through their site about setting up a ballot access drive in your state.

Here's an interview. He's had several interviews if you want to see what he is about via video. Just search him on youtube.

 
poweRob said:
Was mayor of Salt Lake City. Just started his own party called the Justice Party and is trying now to gain ballot access. If you want to participate contact the Justice Party through their site about setting up a ballot access drive in your state.

Here's an interview. He's had several interviews if you want to see what he is about via video. Just search him on youtube.

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Like I said, he has an impressive record, and I hope he can get a national campaign going by 2016. However, I wouldn't vote for God himself if he didn't have a viable chance to beat the GOP clowns.
 
Catawba said:
The fact that I have never heard of the guy is a pretty good indication he doesn't stand a chance, but I will look him up.

Impressive record!!! Maybe he can get a strong national campaign put together by 2016! Hope so!
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If he can just get traction and get his name and positions out there especially this election season AND especially if Romney gets the GOP nomination which seems inevitable... there will be boatloads and boatloads of people looking for a notRomney and notObama in the general election. Even if he wouldn't win, if he just got his positions out there, it would impact the discussion and have the other candidates having to compromise their current positions so as to not lose ground to him.

Another vid:

 
poweRob said:
If he can just get traction and get his name and positions out there especially this election season AND especially if Romney gets the GOP nomination which seems inevitable... there will be boatloads and boatloads of people looking for a notRomney and notObama in the general election. Even if he wouldn't win, if he just got his positions out there, it would impact the discussion and have the other candidates having to compromise their current positions so as to not lose ground to him.

Another vid:

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Sadly, I feel our society needs to evolve before this guy would stand a chance. No conservative would vote for this guy which includes many conservative independents and moderates. Therefore, all the votes he would get, would be at the expense of Obama, not Romney, allowing the GOP a better chance of winning.

That I will not do!
 
Catawba said:
Sadly, I feel our society needs to evolve before this guy would stand a chance. No conservative would vote for this guy which includes many conservative independents and moderates. Therefore, all the votes he would get, would be at the expense of Obama, not Romney, allowing the GOP a better chance of winning.

That I will not do!
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Do you want Obama as your president?
 
poweRob said:
Do you want Obama as your president?
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I want Obama as my president more than I want Romney as my president, that is the point. Rocky doesn't stand a chance in November so would only be a spoiler that could allow the GOP to win.
 
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