Ron Paul, alas, is the Only choice.

I came to this thread wondering the attitude of Ron Paul falling in polls. How are they handling it?

As I guessed, by raging.

Its odd. When in their comfort zone, so many wander off on their race based views - opposition to anti-segregation and anti-discrimination laws, raging against Israel and Jewish conspiracies. Still arguing the case of the Confederacy in the Civil War even. Free to be candid of their emotional concerns and inner motives.

But then, when out of their comfort zone, it it raging that country is totally doomed and everyone is idiots not to see Ron Paul is our only savior. Furious. Tantrum-like.

Yet everyone knew he couldn't win, and at the core it is all the racial stuff as to why. That and his absolutism about everything. His political strength is also his political limitation - it is his audience/supporters. He is nobody without them. He can't win with them.

joko104 said:

Yet everyone knew he couldn't win, and at the core it is all the racial stuff as to why.

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And you lost me. YOU might not be able over the supposed racism, but it isn't why he is behind in the polls.


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Chaddelamancha said:

And you lost me. YOU might not be able over the supposed racism, but it isn't why he is behind in the polls.


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I think it is because I believe that is the core reason the media declared him a kook and not viable. Later other issues certainly came into play, but his hard core opposition originated on the race (African-Americans and Jews) topics - which also is the origins of his core supporters.

My opinion of course. However, when the media OPENLY wrote him off completely was when they ALL presented his old news letters on ALL networks and at the same time - networks who otherwise don't agree on anything.

What has since socked him future down is his foreign policy stances. Republicans have been VERY hawkish for many decades.

AdamT said:

Who are you talking to, why can't you rise above dull ad hominem? If you're going to be insulting at least try to be clever about it.

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Sorry just learned how the quote feature worked exactly. I'd have to go back and look but I'm not going to waste my time since I can see you are just like most. Out to insult before you have a clear picture of everything. I don't beat around the bush so no need to be clever about anything. That's the old ways although I've never been that way and besides that's what has gotten us in to this mess. Stay a smart butt and see how much people want to do with you. Eventually they'll get sick of it and treat you just like you obviously treat others. No need for personal attacks really although I wont' hesitate to point out something if you are ignorant or cruel in anyway, the reason being everyone shows their true colors really we just have to stop being color blind... in reference to morals...not race.

Obviously you found my "dull ad hominem" interesting enough to respond

joko104 said:

I came to this thread wondering the attitude of Ron Paul falling in polls. How are they handling it?

As I guessed, by raging.

Its odd. When in their comfort zone, so many wander off on their race based views - opposition to anti-segregation and anti-discrimination laws, raging against Israel and Jewish conspiracies. Still arguing the case of the Confederacy in the Civil War even. Free to be candid of their emotional concerns and inner motives.

But then, when out of their comfort zone, it it raging that country is totally doomed and everyone is idiots not to see Ron Paul is our only savior. Furious. Tantrum-like.

Yet everyone knew he couldn't win, and at the core it is all the racial stuff as to why. That and his absolutism about everything. His political strength is also his political limitation - it is his audience/supporters. He is nobody without them. He can't win with them.

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Sounds like you are the type that either likes to throw people into categories or like the organization factor of it so you follow someone else's way. So be it, maybe your too young to get the whole picture to see the logic behind Ron Paul, maybe you haven't been enlightened enough in your life to see it. I'm not going to say he's right on everything no one is but it's not an Obama, Romney or Newt thing to me.....it's a standard quo or real change thing to me...and I'm not saying "real change we can believe in" or whatever Obama has tried to claim.

I'm saying real change....a change in our governments attitude ...a change in how we "able" to live our lives....just because Ron Paul got elected wouldn't mean the world would come to an end....his influeces would remain and then we'd have another president. It's like anything in life. Everything has one extreme or another....we are at one side of the extreme now....it wouldn't hurt us to bounce back over the center just a little bit without coming anywhere close to the other extreme so as to try to balance out where we should be.

I've never classified myself other than to say I'm American Indian because my family members told me that and I"m proud of it as I should be and I really haven't been to keen of politics so I wouldn't have a clue what category "the world" would put me in...and that is really not my concern truthfully. I know how I feel and I know I wish no one harm and anyway and I feel people should be held accountable for their actions but I do feel that life and liberty should rise above it all.

In every situation there is a way to comprise, it's whether the parties involved are of the deamor to be able to compromise that will determine the results of that compromise.

joko104 said:

I came to this thread wondering the attitude of Ron Paul falling in polls. How are they handling it?

As I guessed, by raging.

Its odd. When in their comfort zone, so many wander off on their race based views - opposition to anti-segregation and anti-discrimination laws, raging against Israel and Jewish conspiracies. Still arguing the case of the Confederacy in the Civil War even. Free to be candid of their emotional concerns and inner motives.

But then, when out of their comfort zone, it it raging that country is totally doomed and everyone is idiots not to see Ron Paul is our only savior. Furious. Tantrum-like.

Yet everyone knew he couldn't win, and at the core it is all the racial stuff as to why. That and his absolutism about everything. His political strength is also his political limitation - it is his audience/supporters. He is nobody without them. He can't win with them.

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Even if Ron Paul and his blind followers were PC Queens of the Universe, they still couldn't win.

Pointy said:

Listen to Ron Paul, listen to genuine Tea Party people, these folk are the pragmatists this country not only needs but absolutely MUST have in power.

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The original Boston Tea Party was about a bunch of dockworkers, and smugglers, protecting their jobs from British cheap DUMPED tea....Free Trader Libertarians. They were protectionists, "protecting" their jobs.

Matt Foley said:

The original Boston Tea Party was about a bunch of dockworkers, and smugglers, protecting their jobs from British cheap DUMPED tea....Free Trader Libertarians. They were protectionists, "protecting" their jobs.

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Another categorization of humans and their livelyhood! How tragic...bottom line what happens when all the good people run or die "oft" and find a better place to live and there's nothing left but ruthlessness and greed. Is that the enironment you want to live or have your children grow up in? The way this world is has convinced me to not have children and I've already been looking to relocate and I'm one of the ones, what is it.....46% that actually pays their taxes...guess no biggie it will simply be ~45.99999 percent...no big deal now....if we keep going its just gonna get lower and lower....things will get tougher and tougher...but not for me because I'll be outta here or maybe just somewhere remote within the American who knows, guess i'll find out soon enough! ~

Ron Paul needs to give it up and focus on things that mattter.

Meh, I wouldn't mind Ron Paul. At least his ****tiest policies wouldn't be passed.

Empirica said:

It's time we cut the toro caca boys and girls.

The United States is presently 15 trillion dollars in the red.

In order for a significant spending cut to be effective it must be dramatic.

In fact, it very well might have to be drastic.

And all tax hikes or cuts must be relative to the economy.

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:doh
Anybody who knows a **** about economics that too much of a dramatic spending cut would instantly cause a huge stifling of growth which would cause even more of a problem.
Even a pro-austerity person like me knows that. There are uncountable studies proving that. A steady and continuous cut is acceptable. As Oliver Blanchard (chief economist of the IMF) observed: "Decreasing debt is a marathon, not a sprint"

Jredbaron96 said:

Meh, I wouldn't mind Ron Paul. At least his ****tiest policies wouldn't be passed.

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I agree so not sure why people wouldn't consider him just for that simple reason. He wouldn't be the last president we had.

Proud South Korean said:

:doh
Anybody who knows a **** about economics that too much of a dramatic spending cut would instantly cause a huge stifling of growth which would cause even more of a problem.
Even a pro-austerity person like me knows that. There are uncountable studies proving that. A steady and continuous cut is acceptable. As Oliver Blanchard (chief economist of the IMF) observed: "Decreasing debt is a marathon, not a sprint"

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Well then just so you know he is the only one proposing real spending cuts, so there is that.

Teleco2 said:

Another categorization of humans and their livelyhood! How tragic...bottom line what happens when all the good people run or die "oft" and find a better place to live and there's nothing left but ruthlessness and greed. Is that the enironment you want to live or have your children grow up in? The way this world is has convinced me to not have children and I've already been looking to relocate and I'm one of the ones, what is it.....46% that actually pays their taxes...guess no biggie it will simply be ~45.99999 percent...no big deal now....if we keep going its just gonna get lower and lower....things will get tougher and tougher...but not for me because I'll be outta here or maybe just somewhere remote within the American who knows, guess i'll find out soon enough! ~

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Sorry I'm not stoned, can't comprehend what you said.

Kali said:

Ron Paul needs to give it up and focus on things that mattter.

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What matters?

lol.