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Santorum vs. Obama

If the Election were today, who would you vote for?

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Zyphlin said:
I don't remember Reagan ever suggesting that states should be subject to his moral views, the constitution be damned.
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you got a link to him saying this?

I respect the 10th Amendment, but we are a nation that has values. We are a nation that was built on a moral enterprise, and states don't have the right to tramp over those because of the 10th Amendment.
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because that ain't it. in particular the example he raised (sterilization) is a very real and very brutal part of our history.

it looks more like you are throwing a fit because he is a social conservative as well.
 
JohnWOlin said:
Amigo I know how the electorate works in SC, and while Rick may seem like a decent choice to you he is indeed a giant idiot that refers to himself in the third person and thinks Obama is in bed with our enemies
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The hysteria on this thread is noticed. One could say that Obama is the giant idiot, but that depends on one's perspective. I am not sure that conservative Republicans should ever listen to liberals, libertarians, or moderates. Their opinions should have no impact on who we should vote for and my guess is that they could care less what our opinion is of their candidate.
 
Amigo said:
His point, to make it more clear; is that Murder, and the morals that this country was founded on.

Remember what the DOI says:



Lets say a state wants to ban all firearms; unconstitutional.
Lets say a state wants to ban Atheism in public; unconstitutional.

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The constitution prohibits all guns, so stopping a state from banning guns isn't unconstitutional but rather enforcing the constitution

The constitution says jack and **** about marriage, so attempting to stop a state from doing so at a presidential level saying "**** the 10th amendment" isn't exactly comparable.

You state two things...guns and religious practice...clearly defined in the constitution. Santorum was talking about stuff that had no constitutional protection, but just bothered him morals.

His morals don't trump the constitution. Also, just so you know, neither does the declaration of independence.
 
winston53660 said:
Such as?

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Are you saying that you don't know the policy differences between Santorum and Obama?

Obama loves the UnAffordable Health Care Act. Santorum wants to repeal it.
Obama wants to shove a "green" energy program down our throats. Santorum doesn't.
Obama doesn't want to change Entitlements. Santorum does.
Obama wants to spend even more than our current monstrosity. Santorum wants to rein in expenditures.
Obama believes in class warfare. Santorum wants to raise the level of wealth of everyone.
Obama doesn't believe in American exceptionalism. Santorum does.
Obama wants to add even more regulations to an over-regulated country. Santorum wants to reduce regulations.

That's a start.
 
LesGovt said:
Are you saying that you don't know the policy differences between Santorum and Obama?

Obama loves the UnAffordable Health Care Act. Santorum wants to repeal it.
Obama wants to shove a "green" energy program down our throats. Santorum doesn't.
Obama doesn't want to change Entitlements. Santorum does.
Obama wants to spend even more than our current monstrosity. Santorum wants to rein in expenditures.
Obama believes in class warfare. Santorum wants to raise the level of wealth of everyone.
Obama doesn't believe in American exceptionalism. Santorum does.
Obama wants to add even more regulations to an over-regulated country. Santorum wants to reduce regulations.

That's a start.
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And you support these how?
 
LesGovt said:
The hysteria on this thread is noticed. One could say that Obama is the giant idiot, but that depends on one's perspective. I am not sure that conservative Republicans should ever listen to liberals, libertarians, or moderates. Their opinions should have no impact on who we should vote for and my guess is that they could care less what our opinion is of their candidate.
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No Obama isn't a giant idiot. One could say that but would be incorrect. I have full respect for Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, and Jon Huntsman. I do not fully agree nor would I vote for any of these men (perhaps Ron Paul if he changed a few of his views) but they are no idiots either.
 
jasonxe said:
I think in a debate he openly suggested Racial Profiling.

I'll have to look it up on youtube but i'm pretty sure I remember it to be accurate.

found it....god, Paul's reaction to it is priceless lol. "You gotta be kidding me, i lost all hope man".

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I am in great agreement with Ron Paul on that. He makes some great points about the War on Terror, the culture of fear and security theater nonsense we have everywhere now. Credit when credit is due.
 
JohnWOlin said:
No Obama isn't a giant idiot. One could say that but would be incorrect. I have full respect for Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, and Jon Huntsman. I do not fully agree nor would I vote for any of these men (perhaps Ron Paul if he changed a few of his views) but they are no idiots either.
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LOL! I should take your word for it? No thanks.
 
winston53660 said:
You didn't list a policy.
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Then, be my guest and change the word to something you find more agreeable. If you don't understand the point, that is not my problem.
 
LesGovt said:
Then, be my guest and change the word to something you find more agreeable. If you don't understand the point, that is not my problem.
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The problem is you haven't clearly identified what policies of Obama that you disagree with and which of Santorum that you agree with. This is how your post looks:

Obama loves the "insert vague policy here". Santorum wants to repeal it.

Try being a little more specific, otherwise you are saying "I would vote Santorum because he isn't Obama, which is fine but just say it.

My problem with Santorum is his plan for the Middle East. His only solution to any issue over there is to bomb Iran. Typical GOP warmongering in the name of "inexplicable reason here".
 
Santorum's positions are too extreme for the US public to embrace. If he gets the nomination, it will be 4 more years of Obama for sure.
 
Zyphlin said:
If the choice was that, I'd stay home or vote third party.

I could not in any way put my vote behind Santorum.
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Nor could I. Not that I'm a likely republican voter to begin with. I could consider Paul, Romney or Huntsman. Not a likely voter, but they are better than a fork in the face. The rest of the field is a waste.
 
Amigo said:
BTW, a vote for Obama is a vote against America. :(
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I swear to God. I can think of few things more annoying and condescending than someone assuming their political views are more American than someone else's.

That's the biggest pile of steaming fecal matter I can think of...
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
Santorum's positions are too extreme for the US public to embrace. If he gets the nomination, it will be 4 more years of Obama for sure.
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Well, there you go. If the Captain says something is true, it just has to be. Pshaw!
 
jasonxe said:
Realistically though, Santorum already loss some states because of little to no delegates/not entering a ballot. Romney, Paul, Newt, and Perry are able to compete for the nomination.

He caught a upswing in Iowa but not many people show up to his events.

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Wow! This has got to be the most damaging evidence and proof that I have ever witnessed in my lifetime. *snicker*
 
LesGovt said:
Well, there you go. If the Captain says something is true, it just has to be. Pshaw!
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It's an accurate statement. It may not be what you want to hear, but it's true. It's like Goldwater in '64. Right or wrong, his positions were too extreme for Americans at the time... and he got slaughtered by Johnson. Same thing with McGovern in '72 and Mondale in '84.
 
Top Cat said:
I swear to God. I can think of few things more annoying and condescending than someone assuming their political views are more American than someone else's.

That's the biggest pile of steaming fecal matter I can think of...
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Hello Pot. Didn't you just provide us with an annoying and condescending opinion of someone else's political views?
 
I would vote for Santorum over Obama hands down.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
It's an accurate statement. It may not be what you want to hear, but it's true. It's like Goldwater in '64. Right or wrong, his positions were too extreme for Americans at the time... and he got slaughtered by Johnson. Same thing with McGovern in '72 and Mondale in '84.
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Please forgive me for my somewhat less than respectful response, but you don't get to decide such things and Republicans don't really give a rats patootie about what you think. The American voters get to decide and they have yet to cast one ballot. It's amazing how all of you Undisclosed people know more about what Republicans should do than Republicans.
 
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