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13 reasons to vote for Ron Paul, A must see political view!!!!!

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13 reasons to vote for Ron Paul​
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1 -- Pro-Life: Introduced legislation to define life at conception & always votes pro-life.

2 - Taxes/Spending: Never voted to raise taxes and wants to eliminate the IRS. Never voted to increase spending and plans to cut $1 trillion from the budget year one.

3 - Guns: Never voted against the Second Amendment.

4 - Marriage: Voted for the Defense of Marriage Act.

5 - Right to Work. Supports Right to Work legislation and opposed forced unionism.

6 - Obama: Has the BEST chance at defeating Obama by getting Independent voters.

7 - Debt: Never voted to raise the debt ceiling.

8 - ObamaCare: Wants to eliminate ObamaCare immediately.

9 - Econ/Jobs: Predicted the economic crisis years before it happened. Has a plan to fix it.

10 - Foreign Policy: Opposes nation-building and policing the world. Pro-American foreign policy.

11 - Social Security: Never voted to spend any of the Soc. Sec trust fund money.

12 - Borders: Wants to end birthright citizenship and stop giving illegal immigrants taxpayerfunded benefits

13- Dr. Paul wants to audit the Federal Reserve Bank, which has never been done by anybody.

Anybody on the fence should Check into Dr. Paul on YouTube, Google and other sources, this is one politician that has been consistent for more than 30 years, and actually has a plan to cut spending buy more than a trillion dollars.
Dr. Pauls views are unique and and will be economically effective for America, I suggest everyone look at this guy to be the next Republican President.​
 
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Hmm, should be 13 reasons why old social conservatives should vote for Paul.
 
13 reasons to vote for Ron Paul​
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6 - Obama: Has the BEST chance at defeating Obama by getting Independent voters.

No polls back that assertion.

9 - Econ/Jobs: Predicted the economic crisis years before it happened. Has a plan to fix it.

Even if he envisioned the economic crisis, he did not use that foresight to develop a plan for dealing with it. When the financial crisis erupted, he had an opportunity to advance a tangible libertarian policy solution to the crisis. Instead, he opposed TARP but failed to offer any credible alternative to prevent a systemic financial meltdown. In short, he opposed the "answer" others offered, but had no "answer" of his own. He was powerless. He had no solutions.
 
Should be titled "13 reasons NOT to vote for Ron Paul"! :lol:
 
13 reasons to vote for Ron Paul​
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1 -- Pro-Life: Introduced legislation to define life at conception & always votes pro-life.

2 - Taxes/Spending: Never voted to raise taxes and wants to eliminate the IRS. Never voted to increase spending and plans to cut $1 trillion from the budget year one.

3 - Guns: Never voted against the Second Amendment.

4 - Marriage: Voted for the Defense of Marriage Act.

5 - Right to Work. Supports Right to Work legislation and opposed forced unionism.

6 - Obama: Has the BEST chance at defeating Obama by getting Independent voters.

7 - Debt: Never voted to raise the debt ceiling.

8 - ObamaCare: Wants to eliminate ObamaCare immediately.

9 - Econ/Jobs: Predicted the economic crisis years before it happened. Has a plan to fix it.

10 - Foreign Policy: Opposes nation-building and policing the world. Pro-American foreign policy.

11 - Social Security: Never voted to spend any of the Soc. Sec trust fund money.

12 - Borders: Wants to end birthright citizenship and stop giving illegal immigrants taxpayerfunded benefits

13- Dr. Paul wants to audit the Federal Reserve Bank, which has never been done by anybody.

Anybody on the fence should Check into Dr. Paul on YouTube, Google and other sources, this is one politician that has been consistent for more than 30 years, and actually has a plan to cut spending buy more than a trillion dollars.
Dr. Pauls views are unique and and will be economically effective for America, I suggest everyone look at this guy to be the next Republican President.​

1: This should be left up to the individual. Not a bunch of old men.

2: If true I could agree with this.

3: If true I agree.

4: DOMA is based upon religious doctrine. Should never have been implemented, much less even brought up. A good reason to not vote for him as it takes away the right to get married.

5: If true I agree.

6: Not a good reason to vote for anyone, no matter who has the Presidency.

7: If true, I have mixed feelings.

8: If true then I am all for it.

9: And yet he did nothing about it.

10: If true than am all for it.

11: If true then am all for it.

12: If true than am all for it.

13: Would be interesting to see.

Now, to be fair and balanced can you name 13 reasons to NOT vote for Ron Paul?
 
13 reasons to vote for Ron Paul​
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1 -- Pro-Life: Introduced legislation to define life at conception & always votes pro-life.

2 - Taxes/Spending: Never voted to raise taxes and wants to eliminate the IRS. Never voted to increase spending and plans to cut $1 trillion from the budget year one.

3 - Guns: Never voted against the Second Amendment.

4 - Marriage: Voted for the Defense of Marriage Act.

5 - Right to Work. Supports Right to Work legislation and opposed forced unionism.

6 - Obama: Has the BEST chance at defeating Obama by getting Independent voters.

7 - Debt: Never voted to raise the debt ceiling.

8 - ObamaCare: Wants to eliminate ObamaCare immediately.

9 - Econ/Jobs: Predicted the economic crisis years before it happened. Has a plan to fix it.

10 - Foreign Policy: Opposes nation-building and policing the world. Pro-American foreign policy.

11 - Social Security: Never voted to spend any of the Soc. Sec trust fund money.

12 - Borders: Wants to end birthright citizenship and stop giving illegal immigrants taxpayerfunded benefits

13- Dr. Paul wants to audit the Federal Reserve Bank, which has never been done by anybody.

Anybody on the fence should Check into Dr. Paul on YouTube, Google and other sources, this is one politician that has been consistent for more than 30 years, and actually has a plan to cut spending buy more than a trillion dollars.
Dr. Pauls views are unique and and will be economically effective for America, I suggest everyone look at this guy to be the next Republican President.​

These are like "13 reasons you should vote for ron paul if you want an anarcho-capitalist socially conservative paradise."

And there is absolutely NO evidence that he has the best chance to garner independent votes. I have no idea where you're getting that from, because it's far from the truth.
 
While I welcome new members, I really don't like what the OP poster did. There are GOBS of Ron Paul threads on numerous boards.

Ignoring all of those - I guess because he sees himself is of greater worth than other people - the OPer starts a simplistic from square-one thread for Ron Paul.

My opinion is since obviously the OP has no intentions of reading others messages pro or con about Ron Paul, there is no reason to read or respond to his.

One of the many problems with a Ron Paul presidency is about Ron Paul supporters. The level of incessant whining about how unfairly Paul is being treated as President, the essentially infinite number of messages and threads of redundancy on forum and the overall constant annoying noise about him every day, week, month and year would really be extra annoying.

Participation on a forum is a two way thing. You don't involve, neither should we.
 
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1: This should be left up to the individual. Not a bunch of old men.

2: If true I could agree with this.

3: If true I agree.

4: DOMA is based upon religious doctrine. Should never have been implemented, much less even brought up. A good reason to not vote for him as it takes away the right to get married.

5: If true I agree.

6: Not a good reason to vote for anyone, no matter who has the Presidency.

7: If true, I have mixed feelings.

8: If true then I am all for it.

9: And yet he did nothing about it.

10: If true than am all for it.

11: If true then am all for it.

12: If true than am all for it.

13: Would be interesting to see.

Now, to be fair and balanced can you name 13 reasons to NOT vote for Ron Paul?

Yes, I can name 13 reasons not to vote for Ron Paul
1. You want to be owned by China, through national debt.

2.You want Obama Care over Your Constitutional Rights.

3.You Don't want someone who supported the Patriot Act.

4.You want someone who will go to war.

5.You want someone who will further destabilize the middle east.

6.You want liberal Republican fat cat that will vote for a higher debt ceiling.

7.You think Romney Care should replace Obama Care.

8.You don't think the Federal Reserve needs audited, this non government institution has never been audited,
however, they print all our money.

9. You somehow think that a president is going to change abortion law, The courts might just stop that.

10. You want a candidate that will say anything to get elected.

11. You are willing to sacrifice a candidate whom represents integrity and take one of the other choices because of popularity of talking points of the day.

12. You think that marriage a union between a man and a women before God, and written about in the Bible long
before America was around, can have the definition somehow changed to include a homo sexual union. You also must believe that this is an issue that evens matters to this country. (I really don't think it is)

13. If you want more of the same old political theater, I personally want a guy whom has never flipped flopped in
30yrs​
 


Yes, I can name 13 reasons not to vote for Ron Paul
1. You want to be owned by China, through national debt.

2.You want Obama Care over Your Constitutional Rights.

3.You Don't want someone who supported the Patriot Act.

4.You want someone who will go to war.

5.You want someone who will further destabilize the middle east.

6.You want liberal Republican fat cat that will vote for a higher debt ceiling.

7.You think Romney Care should replace Obama Care.

8.You don't think the Federal Reserve needs audited, this non government institution has never been audited,
however, they print all our money.

9. You somehow think that a president is going to change abortion law, The courts might just stop that.

10. You want a candidate that will say anything to get elected.

11. You are willing to sacrifice a candidate whom represents integrity and take one of the other choices because of popularity of talking points of the day.

12. You think that marriage a union between a man and a women before God, and written about in the Bible long
before America was around, can have the definition somehow changed to include a homo sexual union. You also must believe that this is an issue that evens matters to this country. (I really don't think it is)

13. If you want more of the same old political theater, I personally want a guy whom has never flipped flopped in
30yrs​

Jesus Christ this post is even stupider than the first.
 
Jesus Christ this post is even stupider than the first.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Brandon, if you want to be taken seriously I would suggest not being so partisan and actually put up valid points instead of hyperbole. Seriously, it shouldn't be hard. Everyone has something bad about them.
 
6 - Obama: Has the BEST chance at defeating Obama by getting Independent voters.

The Paul campaign keeps dwelling on this utterly meaningless slogan. What "independent" voters are you talking about? Libertarian attack dogs? Yeah, because they definitely wouldn't scare off the much more numerous (and much more sane) mainstream independents who may otherwise vote Republican. And no, he wouldn't steal any votes from Obama because Ron Paul sycophants would have voted Libertarian anyway.

13- Dr. Paul wants to audit the Federal Reserve Bank, which has never been done by anybody.

...except for the Government Accountability Office earlier this year. FAIL.

12 - Borders: Wants to end birthright citizenship and stop giving illegal immigrants taxpayerfunded benefits

Like what? Food and water in federal prisons? Public schooling, and consequently English immersion, for their children? What "benefits" do they currently get? They pay into Medicare without receiving anything in return. They pay sales taxes and property taxes (through rent), allowing them access to state-level institutions and utilities. What else do you want?
 
The Paul campaign keeps dwelling on this utterly meaningless slogan. What "independent" voters are you talking about? Libertarian attack dogs? Yeah, because they definitely wouldn't scare off the much more numerous (and much more sane) mainstream independents who may otherwise vote Republican. And no, he wouldn't steal any votes from Obama because Ron Paul sycophants would have voted Libertarian anyway.



...except for the Government Accountability Office earlier this year. FAIL.



Like what? Food and water in federal prisons? Public schooling, and consequently English immersion, for their children? What "benefits" do they currently get? They pay into Medicare without receiving anything in return. They pay sales taxes and property taxes (through rent), allowing them access to state-level institutions and utilities. What else do you want?

I don't get why you're trying to talk sense in this thread bro. It's going to be a fruitless enterprise.
 
Like what? Food and water in federal prisons? Public schooling, and consequently English immersion, for their children? What "benefits" do they currently get? They pay into Medicare without receiving anything in return. They pay sales taxes and property taxes (through rent), allowing them access to state-level institutions and utilities. What else do you want?

You're lucky this isn't in the immigration forum. I'd be countering this. ;)
 
You're lucky this isn't in the immigration forum. I'd be countering this. ;)

And I'd probably be countering the fact that legalization would enable these people to pay more in taxes than they already are, but that's another issue entirely.
 
You can post 100 legitimate reasons to vote for Ron Paul, but it will never overcome the one reason not to vote for him...

The Ron Paul Newsletters

Anyone... And I do mean anyone, that panders to racists and hate mongers should never be elected to represent the United States of America... PERIOD.
 
You can post 100 legitimate reasons to vote for Ron Paul, but it will never overcome the one reason not to vote for him...

The Ron Paul Newsletters

Anyone... And I do mean anyone, that panders to racists and hate mongers should never be elected to represent the United States of America... PERIOD.

You have a most excellent point Grim. If Paul wants to be considered as a serious candidate who can go to win the nomination he must forcefully speak to the newsletter issue and it has be much much more than he was busy that day or the third intern down the hall must have written it and we really cannot remember his name but its no big deal cause I didn't do it myself.

That is not flying.
 
13 reasons to vote for Ron Paul​

10 - Foreign Policy: Opposes nation-building and policing the world. Pro-American foreign policy.

Abdication of American interests,abandonment of U.S. allies, and neo-isolationism are not "pro-American foreign policy." Iran's recent threat to try to close the vital Strait of Hormuz through which one-third of the world's oil exports pass provides just another example of how out of touch Paul is. The Los Angeles Times reported:

Paul, one of the leading contenders to win next week's Iowa caucuses, said Iran would be justified in responding to the sanctions by blocking the flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz. He compared the western sanctions to a hypothetical move by China to block the Gulf of Mexico, which Americans would consider an act of war.

He also said he would not respond militarily to keep the strait open—because he would not consider it an act of war against the U.S. But if he were president, he would report to Congress on the issue, leaving it up to lawmakers to declare war if they wanted.


Ron Paul: Sanctions against Iran are 'acts of war' - latimes.com

Ron Paul punted when it came to the financial crisis, opposing TARP but offering no credible program of his own. He has indicated that he would punt again even in a clear-cut case that involved vital U.S. interests. Perhaps Paul has no recollection of the impact of the 1970s energy crises, but allowing Iran to successfully close the Strait of Hormuz would lead to a global energy crisis that would be magnitudes of order greater than what happened during the 1970s.
 
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You can post 100 legitimate reasons to vote for Ron Paul, but it will never overcome the one reason not to vote for him...

The Ron Paul Newsletters

Anyone... And I do mean anyone, that panders to racists and hate mongers should never be elected to represent the United States of America... PERIOD.

And the fact that it has been proven that he did not write them and his subsequent history has shown that he is not a racist. Stop lying.
 
And the fact that it has been proven that he did not write them and his subsequent history has shown that he is not a racist. Stop lying.

Proven?? Oh, you mean Paul saying "I didn't write them".

Gee.. You got me there... LMAO
 
I support many of his economic plans, as well as his foreign policy. But I just couldn't bring myself to support a candidate who disagrees with me so radically on so many social issues.
 
If only he didn't have his wacky foreign policy, I wouldn't mind him.
 
Yes it has been proven. Where've you been? You do know that ghostwriters actually wrote them right?

I know as much or more about those newsletters than anyone on this forum. I investigated everything there was back in 2008 and if you're talking about Lew Rockwell, then yes, that's who the fall guy is.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Paul has in the past taken credit for writing those newsletters and even agreed that certain controversial passages were his and expressed his views. Rockwell only enter the picture as the "ghost writer" when it became apparent that those Newsletters weren't going away, and posed a huge political liability.
 
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