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Romney HANDED the GOP ticket

do you think that babbling idiot Perry or batwhacked Bachman has any prayer of winning the general election?
Even "babbling idiot(s)," the "batwhacked" and candidates who have no "prayer of winning the general election" still have a right to be on the Virginia primary ballot.

The GOP "establishment" will not be doing Romney any favors in the long run if the 75% of Republican/Tea Party supporters who currently favor some other candidate feel disenfranchised and decide to stay home in 2012.
 
Gingrich really doesn't have a presence in Virginia (probably one of the most important states for the election in 11 months) organized enough to get 12k signatures? I realize he's a relatively recent front-runner, but that just seems completely irresponsible. And we know how much compassion conservatives have for personal irresponsibility, right?

Personally, I think Gingrich never intended to become a front-runner and his campaign was just a form of advertisement for his books and speaking tours so he can demand more money for them.
 
I would be more pissed off if I didn't think Romney had the best chance of unseating Obie. Maybe in the long run the Virginia law will help America. Look on the bright side.:)
 
I am neutral in this race. It bothers me that the GOP has not been able to field even one decent candidate.
 
As a Conservative and a tea partier, this has me fuming mad. Anybody else?

As a conservative tea partier I am mad about this...mad at the candidates for failing to following simple rules to get on the ballot. Especially myvfavorit candidate, huntsman. Its no ones fault but their own for them not being on the ballot. That's not Romneys fault, or VA's fault, but their fault. As a tea partier and conservative I care about personal responsibility, not blaming others for an individual's personal failings
 
As a conservative tea partier I am mad about this...mad at the candidates for failing to following simple rules to get on the ballot. Especially myvfavorit candidate, huntsman. Its no ones fault but their own for them not being on the ballot. That's not Romneys fault, or VA's fault, but their fault. As a tea partier and conservative I care about personal responsibility, not blaming others for an individual's personal failings

It's curious to me how Peter Grimm concludes that the GOP establishment is handing Romney the nomination because Gingrich, Perry, and Huntsman couldn't get on the ballot, but doesn't bother to mention that Ron Paul (whom the establishment despises) was able to get onto the ballot...
 
Do you think that is any excuse for possible misdeeds here?

what misdeeds? they should have put their big boy pants on and taken care of business
 
Personally, I think Gingrich never intended to become a front-runner and his campaign was just a form of advertisement for his books and speaking tours so he can demand more money for them.

It worked for the Palin camp to hawk books and reality tv shows.

As I have said before we have a candidate up in the state of Washington who runs every election just to provide free advertisement for his moving company, Mike the Mover.
 
It's curious to me how Peter Grimm concludes that the GOP establishment is handing Romney the nomination because Gingrich, Perry, and Huntsman couldn't get on the ballot, but doesn't bother to mention that Ron Paul (whom the establishment despises) was able to get onto the ballot...

You have to ignore the parts that don't agree with what you are trying to say, duh!
 
I would be more pissed off if I didn't think Romney had the best chance of unseating Obie. Maybe in the long run the Virginia law will help America. Look on the bright side.:)

Only problem with that is Romney won't be that much different from Obama.
 
Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, and the rest of the non-Romney candidates (except Ron Paul) have been denied the right to get on the ballot in Virginia by the Republican establishment in Virginia.

This means Romney will take nearly all of the delegates from Virginia.

This makes it mathematically next to impossible for anyone but Mitt Romney to be the GOP candidate in November.

And in typical sneaky fashion, they do it over Christmas, so that nobody notices.

The GOP establishment has FORCED this candidate down our throats. The way they figured, Romney IS getting on the ticket, your voice/vote be damned. They have done everything in their power to put him on the ticket in spite of the fact that the base doesn't like him, and it looks like they have succeeded.




As a Conservative and a tea partier, this has me fuming mad. Anybody else?

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1. No, the establishment didn't do this. Their incompetency did. They had plenty of time to gather the signatures.
2. No, it doesn't make Romney the only possible winner. Far from it.

It's no surprise your a Tea Partier. You're naive and uninformed.
 
Only problem with that is Romney won't be that much different from Obama.

You are probably right. Things began to slide in this country during Bush and continued with Obama. Things will continue to slide during the next 4 and most likely the 4 after that.

Electing Romney will be like a small speed bump in the slide. The only real change in the White House with Romney will be those special underwear.
 
As a conservative tea partier I am mad about this...mad at the candidates for failing to following simple rules to get on the ballot. Especially myvfavorit candidate, huntsman. Its no ones fault but their own for them not being on the ballot. That's not Romneys fault, or VA's fault, but their fault. As a tea partier and conservative I care about personal responsibility, not blaming others for an individual's personal failings

Take your fake rage elsewhere. You already demonstrated that you are anti-Ron Paul, who is the most conservative candidate. Unfortunately, you are a typical republican who shows outrage at Romney, but will probably vote for him.
 
Take your fake rage elsewhere. You already demonstrated that you are anti-Ron Paul, who is the most conservative candidate. Unfortunately, you are a typical republican who shows outrage at Romney, but will probably vote for him.

Actualy, I voted ron paul in 08 and by the looks of it will be voting for him again in 2008 based on who will be on my stated ballot. Spare me the stereotypical "only Ron Paul is pure and great for he is our messiah" stereotypical Paul zealot rhetoric about how no one else can dare be a conservative him
 
Much like real estate, campaigning for public office comes down to three things: organization, organization, and organization.

I think this only proves that Gingrich and Perry never really took the process of running for the nomination seriously. How quickly we forget that only a few months ago Gingrich was taking vacations when his staff was begging him to stick around and make decisions about his campaign, and quitting en masse as a result of his seemingly careless attitude.

It wasn't just Gingrich and Perry that didn't get enough signatures in time to meet the GOP requirements to get on the ballot, Bachmann, Huntsman and Santorum also failed to get enough signatures to get on the Virginia Ballot.

Looks like in Virginia, GOP voters will have the choice of either Romney or Paul.
 
Actually, Gingrich was born in Pennsylvania, but spent most of his life in Georgia, where he represented that state's 6th Congressional district.

Glad to have it confirmed that Gingrich is not a fellow Virginian! :)
 
Actually, Gingrich was born in Pennsylvania, but spent most of his life in Georgia, where he represented that state's 6th Congressional district.

Where he worked hard to pull federal money for Lockheed/Martin and other defense contractors all while bitching about government welfare.

The man is a living contradiction to his own existence and it amazes me how people can buy into his ever-changing schtick.
 
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So you think all tea partiers are "naive and uninformed..." I wonder if you take a step back if you can see the irony in that.

For your education... the delegates for each state are now handed out proportionally.... that's to say that no one candidate wins the entire state anymore.

So for Gingrich, for instance, NOT to be on the Virginia ballot means he gets ZERO delegates for that state while Romney cleans up.

That gives Virginia the weight of coming out ahead in about 10 states. Pretty significant.


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1. No, the establishment didn't do this. Their incompetency did. They had plenty of time to gather the signatures.
2. No, it doesn't make Romney the only possible winner. Far from it.

It's no surprise your a Tea Partier. You're naive and uninformed.
 
Wrong. The people of Virginia deserve to vote for whoever they want. To force them to choose b/w Romeny and Paul is a sham.

Hey guy, do you really want candidates who can't get 12,000 signatures to be your Party's nominee, and potentially your President? If their campaigns are that incompetent, they are probably incompetent , too. If this costs Gingrich or Perry or whoever the nomination, then you have been done a favor. These people didn't make it happen in the Virginia primary, and that was the very least they had to do. God forbid it was something more important, after the election, if one of them had won. This shows that someone can sound smart, carry that swagger and look good, but still be a loser.
 
Bachmann, Huntsman and Santorum also failed to get enough signatures to get on the Virginia Ballot.

I don't think they bother to get signatures in the first place. Their appeal outside from their main base is limited. They barely, if have any delegates in other states.

What they're doing now is to get as much voters (%) as they can, deal with a actual running candidate for an endorsement, and get a cabinet position, $$, or something else in return.


Unnecessary.
 
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Wrong. The people of Virginia deserve to vote for whoever they want. To force them to choose b/w Romeny and Paul is a sham.

Forcing them!?!?!?!?

Hardly.
 
More of the GOP, "everything that is bad that happens to us is liberal or unfair bias" nonsense. Man up and get 10,000 votes. How hard can it be? 8 million people live in Virginia and they can't get 10,000 signatures?
 
Awesome thread.

Peter Grimm looks like a foaming ignoramous and kudos to the many Conservatives who were rational about analyzing Newt's actions in the VA primaries.
 
It was THEIR responsibility to get enough votes to be on the ballot in Virginia.... Which leads me to ask, if they are so incompetent with their own campaigns, how do you think they would do as president? Their incompetency in Virginia is pretty telling.

Even more telling that the GOP's brightest and best have all been reduced to this Chinese Fire Drill.
 
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